Here we go again-Ukraine once again - Page 770

Skybird · 06-25-23, 08:23 AM

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Skybird · 06-25-23, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

For any 'revolution' to have any chance of success it would need the broad support of the civilian population.

Which by itself would still not be a sufficient condition. The many corrupt members of the military leadership must be prepared to act against their interests, which are expressed in their corruption. How likely that is? I dont know. Not very, I fear. I mean their military is what it is since many centuries: a corrupt gangsterhood that gives less than dirt for its soldiers.

Jimbuna · 06-25-23, 08:30 AM

I honestly couldn't give two hoots for Putin but what does concern me is the huge nuclear arsenal they have and what they might do with it.

Skybird · 06-25-23, 08:33 AM

Yes. And I also wonder if we will see a covert Wagner build-up against Ukraine in Belarus. A new second front in the North.

Jimbuna · 06-25-23, 08:41 AM

I can't see Prigozhin wanting to help Putin at all but if Wagner are forced into joining the Russian army then that could be a whole different ball game.

mapuc · 06-25-23, 08:52 AM

Meanwhile:
There seems to be a hush-hush meeting between Russia and China

So it says in the headlines here

Edit
Found the English version
https://www.reuters.com/world/russia...me-2023-06-25/
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Markus

Jimbuna · 06-25-23, 09:12 AM

Not heard much of the Nova Kakhovka Dam lately but this is the aftermath.

Skybird · 06-25-23, 09:21 AM

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Ukraine, be on your guard in the North.

Skybird · 06-25-23, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Not heard much of the Nova Kakhovka Dam lately but this is the aftermath.

They may not be able to keep the occupied territories, but they can cripple Ukrainian agriculture to a terrible degree for generations to come. The lack of water, and the intoxication of the farming soils will make Russian exports of grains the more important for the third world. And that is what this war also is about: to eliminate unwanted Ukrainian competition to the Russian almost-monopoly.

Dargo · 06-25-23, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Ich glaub ich spinne: is what I called my private absurd "speculation" on the previous page in the end - the truth...? FOCUS just brought this article:

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Ukraine, be on your guard in the North.

It took Russian armed forces and Wagner eight months tens of thousands of lives to take little Bakhmut, population 2% of Kyiv’s.

Skybird · 06-25-23, 09:54 AM

How many Ukranian troops are bound at Bakhmut - and north of Kyiv?

There are Russian nukies now said to be inside Belarus. Tacticals.

Dargo · 06-25-23, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

How many Ukranian troops are bound at Bakhmut - and north of Kyiv?

There are Russian nukies now said to be inside Belarus. Tacticals.

There are 300K Russians in south of Ukraine that failed in 3 offensives there will be no other from them, so I am sure a couple of regiments can not reach Kyiv oh they can do Moscow, but that was done without any resistance a Saturday stroll north Ukraine is prepared for an invasion from Belarus.

Aktungbby · 06-25-23, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I see Lukashenko is taking the credit for Prigozhin to agree to stop his operation. In exchange, Russian authorities dropped all charges against the mercenaries.

Several media clarified that Putin endorsed his intervention.

Then the band played 'Believe it if you like'

sanctuary in Belorussia??

Let's hope former chef Prigozhin has the sense to stay away from hotel balconies in Minsk during his sojourn in Putin's #1 ally Lukashenko's backyard...?

Jimbuna · 06-25-23, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Aktungbby

sanctuary in Belorussia??

Let's hope former chef Prigozhin has the sense to stay away from hotel balconies in Minsk during his sojourn in Putin's #1 ally Lukashenko's backyard...?

Precisely!

Catfish · 06-25-23, 12:13 PM

I don't quite get why Prigosomewhatzhin should stay away from windows.
I have no sympathy for any of them.

06-25-23, 08:23 AM	#11536
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06-25-23, 08:33 AM	#11539
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,534 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Yes. And I also wonder if we will see a covert Wagner build-up against Ukraine in Belarus. A new second front in the North. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

06-25-23, 08:41 AM	#11540
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,344 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I can't see Prigozhin wanting to help Putin at all but if Wagner are forced into joining the Russian army then that could be a whole different ball game. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

06-25-23, 08:52 AM	#11541
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,922 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Meanwhile: There seems to be a hush-hush meeting between Russia and China So it says in the headlines here Edit Found the English version https://www.reuters.com/world/russia...me-2023-06-25/ End edit Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

06-25-23, 09:12 AM	#11542
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,344 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Not heard much of the Nova Kakhovka Dam lately but this is the aftermath. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

06-25-23, 09:21 AM	#11543
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,534 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Ich glaub ich spinne: is what I called my private absurd "speculation" on the previous page in the end - the truth...? FOCUS just brought this article: https://www-focus-de.translate.goog/..._x_tr_pto=wapp Ukraine, be on your guard in the North. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

06-25-23, 09:54 AM	#11546
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,534 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	How many Ukranian troops are bound at Bakhmut - and north of Kyiv? There are Russian nukies now said to be inside Belarus. Tacticals. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

06-25-23, 12:13 PM	#11550
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	I don't quite get why Prigosomewhatzhin should stay away from windows. I have no sympathy for any of them. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.