Cant seem to follow the manual targetting guide

Bloomstomb · 05-09-10, 12:49 PM

Ive been trying but keep losing what the guide writer is trying to say.

Is there any more guides with different examples for manual targetting?

I got lost at the part where you line up range of the ship (which I can get) wth the length of the ship. I was able to do that, but then the guide says "now look at our 52 degrees" and I have no idea how he decided to look at 52 degrees to begin with.

MAN THIS IS HARD!

Bloomstomb · 05-09-10, 01:06 PM

I figured this part out.

Im still confused as to when to "subtract it from 180".

Also, the example shows how to compute speed.

Its says "so a ship spanning 251 meters has traveled 251 meters in 44 seconds"

How can this statement be true unless the target was perfectly perpendicular to you? Doesnt make sense. Target could travel thousands of meters through your scope if its traveling at a angle. Will AOBF take this into account when calculating speed?

Bosje · 05-15-10, 04:08 AM

no, you see, that's the thing about speed.

as long as your periscope is pointing exactly ahead of you, or exactly behind you (0 or 180 degree bearing)...

the ship will travel exactly its length, not 'thousands of meters'

i understand your confusion, but you have to realise that if the ship moves at a 45 degree AOB, the 'size' of the hull through your periscope is smaller than if it were moving at 90 degrees AOB. it will always need the exact same number of seconds to move that size of hull through your 0 bearing line

take a pen and and move it around on your table, move it at various angles, move it at various ranges, move it any way you like, as long as you move it in a straight line. hold a finger at the tip of the pen and keep looking at your finger as you move the pen, if you keep looking at one spot as the pen moves across that spot, it will always travel the same length: which is the length of the pen, which you can time to measure its speed

reading back, it's probably not as clear as it could be, but I hope that helped

oh, the subtract from 180 thing is when the target moves away from you. 70 degree aob means it's coming at you, 110 aob means it's moving away from you, the 'size' of the hull is the same in both cases and the periscope tool will only give you '70' so you have to make that '110' yourself, by subtracting 70 from 180

05-09-10, 12:49 PM	#1
Bloomstomb Shore leave Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: new york Posts: 70 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 0	Cant seem to follow the manual targetting guide Ive been trying but keep losing what the guide writer is trying to say. Is there any more guides with different examples for manual targetting? I got lost at the part where you line up range of the ship (which I can get) wth the length of the ship. I was able to do that, but then the guide says "now look at our 52 degrees" and I have no idea how he decided to look at 52 degrees to begin with. MAN THIS IS HARD! __________________ sam

05-09-10, 01:06 PM	#2
Bloomstomb Shore leave Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: new york Posts: 70 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 0	I figured this part out. Im still confused as to when to "subtract it from 180". Also, the example shows how to compute speed. Its says "so a ship spanning 251 meters has traveled 251 meters in 44 seconds" How can this statement be true unless the target was perfectly perpendicular to you? Doesnt make sense. Target could travel thousands of meters through your scope if its traveling at a angle. Will AOBF take this into account when calculating speed? __________________ sam

05-15-10, 04:08 AM	#3
Bosje Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 732 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	no, you see, that's the thing about speed. as long as your periscope is pointing exactly ahead of you, or exactly behind you (0 or 180 degree bearing)... the ship will travel exactly its length, not 'thousands of meters' i understand your confusion, but you have to realise that if the ship moves at a 45 degree AOB, the 'size' of the hull through your periscope is smaller than if it were moving at 90 degrees AOB. it will always need the exact same number of seconds to move that size of hull through your 0 bearing line take a pen and and move it around on your table, move it at various angles, move it at various ranges, move it any way you like, as long as you move it in a straight line. hold a finger at the tip of the pen and keep looking at your finger as you move the pen, if you keep looking at one spot as the pen moves across that spot, it will always travel the same length: which is the length of the pen, which you can time to measure its speed reading back, it's probably not as clear as it could be, but I hope that helped oh, the subtract from 180 thing is when the target moves away from you. 70 degree aob means it's coming at you, 110 aob means it's moving away from you, the 'size' of the hull is the same in both cases and the periscope tool will only give you '70' so you have to make that '110' yourself, by subtracting 70 from 180 __________________ And when an 800-ton Uboat has you by the tits... you listen!