Here we go again-Ukraine once again

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French President Macron reiterated that Ukraine has the right to decide for itself when it is time to make peace and under what conditions. The end of the war cannot be determined by the right of the strongest, Macron spoke at a peace rally in Rome. "To start talking about peace now, or calling for peace, must be unbearable for those who are fighting for freedom. It would look like treason." Macron added that the international community will be on Ukraine's side if it considers the time ripe for peace talks. "Remaining neutral would mean an acceptance of the principle of the right of the strongest, and I do not agree with that." Russia cannot impose a peace militarily, Macron said.

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Are the ruskies beginning to use fighter jet as bombs against their own population now ?

Governor: Fighter jet falls on 2-story building in Irkutsk, Russia.

Irkutsk Oblast Governor Igor Kobzev said that currently he has no information on casualties.

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/...39859689553922

This is the second bombing campaign this week-Last was 17 of October.

Markus

[mapuc]

Regarding the video in this link

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...postcount=7678

I would think many times if I was Putin and have decided to attack Sweden. If they hadn't problems in Ukraine then they surely would get it here.

They would meet a Navy technology better and better trained. Swedish Subs the best in the world with top trained officers.
The Swedish Air force-JAS39 Gripen beats The Russian SU57(which they only have a few of at the moment more have been ordered)

Finland-I know their infantry should be some of the best in the world.
And not to forget their air force Russia would face F/A-18 and F35.

Markus

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Are the ruskies beginning to use fighter jet as bombs against their own population now ?



https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/...39859689553922

This is the second bombing campaign this week-Last was 17 of October.

Markus

This is part of the black adder script go FUBAR

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86% of Ukrainians are sure of need to continue armed struggle, even if shelling of civilian infrastructure continues, - KIIS

Most of the interviewed Ukrainians believe that it is necessary to continue the armed struggle anyway, even if the shelling continues.

This is evidenced by the results of a sociological survey conducted by the Kyiv International Institute of Sociology (KIIS) on October 21-23, 2022, Censor.NET informs.

"Despite the Russian shelling, which destroys infrastructure and takes people's lives, 86% of respondents answered that it is necessary to continue the armed struggle, even if the shelling continues. In particular, among them, 71% completely agree with this opinion (another 16% rather agree) ", according to the press release of KIIS based on the results of the survey.

Only 10% of respondents answered that it is necessary to proceed to negotiations to stop the shelling as soon as possible, even if it means making concessions to Russia.

According to sociologists, although from the west (88% of respondents were in favor of continuing the struggle and 8% in favor of making concessions for the sake of ending the war as soon as possible) to the east (69% and 29%, respectively), the share of those ready to make concessions increases, but in all regions, the majority thinks that it is necessary to continue the armed resistance.

"Even in the east, 69% hold this opinion (this is the answer to people who live in the Kharkiv and Donetsk regions, which are subject to constant rocket and artillery fire)," the KIIS explains. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3375830

[Jimbuna]

Russia has enough resources for long war, West should not relax, - head of Foreign Ministry of Latvia Rinkevics

Russia has enough resources to wage a protracted war against Ukraine, so the West mustn’t relax in providing aid to our country.

This was stated by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Latvia, Edgar Rinkevics, Censor.NET informs with reference to Delfi.

According to him, at present, not only military but also financial aid should be provided to help Ukraine "winter over" and restore the civil infrastructure largely destroyed as a result of Russian attacks.

At the same time, according to him, the Russian Federation hopes for the "fatigue" of the West, trying to negatively influence public opinion. Rinkevics believes that the unity of the West in helping Ukraine is quite strong, and problems are usually related to the speed of implementation of decisions. Yes, the supply of weapons is often slower than changes at the front.

In addition, the head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Latvia believes that the calls of the Minister of Defense of Russia Sergei Shoygu to the ministers of defense of several countries to accuse Ukraine of allegedly intending to use a "dirty bomb" may indicate a possible preparation of the Russian Federation for provocations or an attempt to divert attention from attacks on the civilian infrastructure of Ukraine.

He also believes that Russia can expect any scenario of the development of events, knowing that the situation around Kherson is unfavorable for the aggressor country.

In addition, Rinkevics said that China is simply watching what is happening and is acting discreetly, taking its time to support the Russian Federation in every possible way. In his opinion, the outcome of the war in general will be of great importance for international politics and how countries with geopolitical ambitions can act. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3375841

[Jimbuna]

Reznikov about Kremlin’s "dirty bomb" hoax: Thief’s hat is burning

Lies about a "dirty bomb" that Ukraine is allegedly going to use is a manifestation of Kremlin’s habit of accusing its victims of aggression of their own crime in advance.

It was reported in Facebook by Minister of Defense Oleksiy Reznikov, informs Censor.NЕТ.

"Dirty" nuclear blackmail is a reason for tough preventive steps.

"Thief's hat is burning". Today the Russian Federation at the high international level provided an official illustration for this proverb.

The lie about the "dirty bomb" that Ukraine is allegedly preparing to use is an element of the usual Kremlin tactics. When Russian criminals try to preventively accuse the victim of aggression of their crime.

Watch more: Russian Defense Minister arranges a telephone carousel and calls foreign ministers with stories about the so-called dirty nuclear bomb, - Zelenskyi. VIDEO

This has happened repeatedly since 2014. After February 24, Russia openly threatens to use nuclear weapons. In spring, it deliberately provoked a disaster at the Chornobyl NPP, and now it is blackmailing the world with a disaster at Zaporizhzhia NPP. Its missiles pose a danger to other nuclear facilities in Ukraine.

Unlike Moscow, Ukraine has always been extremely responsible in nuclear safety issues. Our nuclear facilities are still open for the IAEA. It is elementary to make sure that Russian statements are nonsense.

The best response to the Russian accusations should be decisive steps to increase pressure on the criminal terrorist regime in Moscow, as well as active assistance to Ukraine with the means that will allow us to quickly clean our land from the plague. So that no one would even think of committing a nuclear crime in Europe.

Not as a minister, but as a citizen I will note the following. The attitude to the land in Ukraine has always been special. Today, judging by the reaction of our soldiers and all our people, I see how sincerely they strive to liberate the Ukrainian land from Russian dirt. From shells, remnants of equipment, garbage left by Russian troops. It is not even a military need - it is a mental need.

Therefore, even theoretically, it is not even possible to imagine that Ukraine is able to implement something that can cause long-term contamination of our land. This is nonsense.

I am grateful to our partners who adequately perceive this dangerous Russian chatter", Reznikov said. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3375757

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We invite UN and IAEA to visit Ukraine in response to Russia’s nuclear blackmail, - Reznikov

Ukrainian Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov invited UN and OSCE monitoring missions to Ukraine in response to Russia’s nuclear blackmail.

This is reported by Censor.NET with reference to Reznikov's Twitter.

"Every day, the Ukrainian army frees our land from Russian filth. The thought of a "dirty bomb" is disgusting to us. We invite the monitoring missions of the UN and the IAEA to visit Ukraine. The world must respond to Russia's nuclear blackmail. We demand compliance with Clause 4 of the Budapest Memorandum," the Minister of Defense said. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3375780

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Russia’s accusations against Ukraine regarding "dirty bomb" are not groundless, - Lavrov

Moscow believes that the accusations against Ukraine regarding the "dirty bomb" made public by Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu have grounds.

As reported by Censor.NET with reference to Radio Svoboda, this was stated by the head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation Serhiy Lavrov.

"We have specific information about those institutions in Ukraine, those scientific institutes that have the technology to create this dirty bomb. We have information that we checked through the appropriate channels that this is not an empty suspicion that here there are serious reasons to believe that such things can be planned," said the minister of the occupying country.

We will remind you, on October 23, the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Serhii Shoigu held a series of negotiations with colleagues from other countries. In particular, he told his British colleague Ben Wallace about a possible provocation with a "dirty bomb" allegedly being prepared by Ukraine.

Wallace said that Russia should not use the "dirty bomb" hoax as an excuse to further escalate the war in Ukraine. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3375880

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Three more IRIS-T complexes will be delivered to Ukraine as soon as possible, - Sholtz

Germany will deliver three more IRIS-T air defense systems to Ukraine as soon as possible, each of which can protect a large city.

This was announced by Chancellor of Germany Olaf Scholz, reports Censor.NET with reference to Ukrinform.

He noted that the Russian invasion on February 24 was a terrible point in history in general.

"We support your country politically, financially, economically, humanitarianly, as well as with weapons. Yes, we also talk about this at the economic conference... Russia's attacks on civilian infrastructure show that everything must be done to rebuild and protect Ukrainian cities and villages, bridges, streets, and railways. That is why I am very happy that our anti-aircraft missile systems and anti-aircraft self-propelled guns, and now IRIS-T in Ukraine... This system can protect a big city. We will put three more such guns in Ukraine as soon as possible," said the Chancellor of Germany.

He assured that Germany, together with its partners, will support Ukraine as much as necessary.

"This applies to wartime as well as reconstruction. You can rely on Germany, the EU, and other friends in the world," emphasized the Chancellor of Germany. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3375875

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Russia has enough resources for long war, West should not relax, - head of Foreign Ministry of Latvia Rinkevics

Russia has enough resources to wage a protracted war against Ukraine, so the West mustn’t relax in providing aid to our country.

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I see a big risk in case of the Republicans scoring big at the midterm elections. They could seripously delay, limit, hamper US wepain supplies to Ukraine, and already annoucned they want to do so.



Lets face it, even a completely willing Europe would nto be capable to replace and compensate for a loss of US weapon deliveries to the Ukraine. So what is being talked about amongst Republicans is to drive dagger into the Ukraine's back and help Putin to win the war. Thats the effect of what the Republicans want.

Considering Trump's often shown admiration for the Russian gangster leader Putin, and many Trumpian Reps' love for Putinism and Putinist politics, this is no surprise. Europe may have been able to counter this a bitt if it would have contributed a more equal share to the Ukrainian effort that matches closer that of the US. But as things stand, it does significantly less and thus almost triggers complaints that Americna spending on the Ukraine goes at the cost of Americans at home. Which is drivel anyway, since America like most industrialsed and developing nations now, lives on tic, new debts, and ever newly printed currency units anyway.

The Ukraine has no reason to feel safe and easy about American support. What Biden says he wants to do, is one thing. What soon he is left with being able to do, might be a very different one.

And the ukriane is in a process tp phas eout Sowjet era wepaons, sinc eit ha sno mor eammo for these, and changing to Western equipment. If this supply doe snto flow, the problem quickly turns into an existential threat.

Ironically Putin tgets by tghis process what he wanted to prevent: Ukriane de facto is turning itself into an informal NATO member that not only has demonstrated its capability to adapt to NATO standards and NATO doctrine, but now more and more operates NATO equipment as well.

Russia has a long breath in this war, I still see that it can outlast Western efforts to supply Ukraine. And sanctions will nto rpevent this. The Wets must stop bpwing to its illusiopon that the West has any influence on changing inner politics in Russia, or changing the inner circle of leadership politics. The West has no influence at all on this, period. It just wants to live by the illusion that it has - to make itself feel relevant.


And what has come of the x-th iteration of stories about Putin being terminally ill, will not live on, and a revolt forming amongst oligarchs or his inner circle? Nothing. Nothing, again for the x-th time.

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Ukraine will become member of EU, reconstruction must take this perspective into account, - Scholz

Germany supports Ukraine’s full membership in the EU in the future, therefore the reconstruction of the country should take place taking this perspective into account.

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said this in a speech at the opening of the 5th German-Ukrainian business forum on the reconstruction of Ukraine in Berlin, Censor.NET informs with reference to Ukrinform.

The Chancellor of Germany reminded that on June 23, the heads of states and governments of the European Union granted Ukraine the status of a candidate for EU membership.

"In this way, we are also responsible for what everyone understood long ago after the Maidan: Ukraine is part of the European family. I speak very seriously and understand all the consequences of this - we want Ukraine to become part of the European Union," said Scholz.

He added that this decision is a signal to private investors: whoever invests in the reconstruction of Ukraine today will invest in a country that will be part of the EU and part of the common European market.

According to the Chancellor of Germany, this also affects the very process of rebuilding Ukraine, which must be carried out keeping in mind that Ukraine will one day become a full member of the EU.

"This means that both in logistics and in transport, we must act in such a way as to "tie" Ukraine immediately to the internal European market. This means that export routes must be opened for Ukrainian products, for Ukrainian companies. And at the same time, we must remember "remember about the environment and ecological agriculture," Sholtz noted.

He also emphasized that it is necessary not only to rebuild the destroyed energy sector of Ukraine, although it is now a priority, but also to increase efficiency and develop the export of electricity from Ukraine to the EU, to strengthen the Ukrainian energy system.

"Ukraine has the sun and wind - these are very good prerequisites for it to be not just a transit country, but an exporter of renewable energy. There is already the first agreement between Ukrainian and German enterprises, and we know that there is great potential here," - the chancellor of Germany believes. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3375886