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Old 12-05-21, 01:51 PM   #181
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Capitalism will destroy those commies every single time. All they have are threats of war, we’ll then, bring it on.

Nobody is going to want to uncork the nuclear genie but we don't need to do that to destroy their invasion force so the question returns to what I asked Mapuc earlier:

Would the ChiComs, having had their entire expeditionary force sent to the bottom of the Coral South China sea will also be willing to loose millions of their citizens, their cities and industrial centers to retaliate against us for putting them there?
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Old 12-05-21, 01:57 PM   #182
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Nobody is going to want to uncork the nuclear genie but we don't need to do that to destroy their invasion force so the question returns to what I asked Mapuc earlier:

Would the ChiComs, having had their entire expeditionary force sent to the bottom of the Coral South China sea will also be willing to loose millions of their citizens, their cities and industrial centers to retaliate against us for putting them there?
And here is what I answered in the first time.
"The only way to win a nuklear war is not to play the game. Maybe the chance that nuke may be used in a war may give China some second thoughts."

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Old 12-05-21, 10:32 PM   #183
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And here is what I answered in the first time.
"The only way to win a nuklear war is not to play the game. Maybe the chance that nuke may be used in a war may give China some second thoughts."

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One would hope. Maybe though we should secretly arm the Taiwanese with a few nuclear weapons of their own. If possessing them is the great deterrent that everyone claims they are then letting Taiwan into the club puts up a mighty barrier to ChiCom aggression.
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Old 12-06-21, 03:30 PM   #184
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Old 12-06-21, 03:43 PM   #185
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One would hope. Maybe though we should secretly arm the Taiwanese with a few nuclear weapons of their own. If possessing them is the great deterrent that everyone claims they are then letting Taiwan into the club puts up a mighty barrier to ChiCom aggression.
It would mean peace for a very long time. Knowing that Taiwan or Japan or some other countries near South Chinese sea has nukes may give China not a second but a third thought before thinking about attacking one of these countries.

Or does it ? Giving Taiwan, Vietnam, Japan etc nukes- wouldn't it be better to be protected by a superpower who has nukes.

I know for a fact what's going to happen if China make real of their threat and start to invade Taiwan-From UN, EU, USA there will only come harsh words and condemnation AND economical sanctions.

Off topic input to the response from western country if China does attack Taiwan.
(When Putin Know how weak Western is-Russia will invade Ukraine)
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Old 12-06-21, 03:49 PM   #186
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"Whether that will happen is questionable - not least because of the increasing economic dependence on China"

This is why there wouldn't come a military response-If China does attack Taiwan.

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Old 12-06-21, 07:46 PM   #187
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It would mean peace for a very long time. Knowing that Taiwan or Japan or some other countries near South Chinese sea has nukes may give China not a second but a third thought before thinking about attacking one of these countries.

Or does it ? Giving Taiwan, Vietnam, Japan etc nukes- wouldn't it be better to be protected by a superpower who has nukes.

How could it better? We've just been discussing the reluctance of a superpower to start a nuclear war on behalf of another country. I believe that the atomic shield does not extend to others.
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Old 12-07-21, 09:05 AM   #188
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The best way to influence China would be for the western world to mutually agree to cease trading with them.....as if that would ever happen.
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How could it better? We've just been discussing the reluctance of a superpower to start a nuclear war on behalf of another country. I believe that the atomic shield does not extend to others.
Yes, we did, it was your answer
"Maybe though we should secretly arm the Taiwanese with a few nuclear weapons of their own....."

That made me think otherwise.
He's right, giving them nukes would make China think twice before attacking.

Then I came to think of preventing spreading of nukes.

That's why I continued with
Or does it....

As you have mentioned-If China use nukes as a last resort - USA will reply with nukes.

USA will not be the one who start using nukes-I doubt it to be honest. If USA lose the war against China-I don't think they would use nukes as a last resort.

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Old 12-07-21, 10:00 AM   #190
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The best way to influence China would be for the western world to mutually agree to cease trading with them.....as if that would ever happen.
See my comment in #186.

Then you will know if that would ever happen.

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Old 12-07-21, 09:45 PM   #191
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I agree with Jim but I doubt the various governments would have the b_lls to act.
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Old 01-02-22, 09:09 AM   #192
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China Is Now The Richest Country On Earth

https://www.cnbctv18.com/news/it-isn...d-11484312.htm

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Old 01-02-22, 09:46 AM   #193
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I doubt the vast majority of the population receive any benefit because of that.
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Their biggest wealth is incarnated in the wonderful and holy god-emperor of theirs . In his family's secret banking accounts, I mean.
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Old 01-25-22, 10:32 AM   #195
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China must see a tempting opportunity here:

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/01/24/p...sea/index.html


German media report two US carrier groups and a Japanese helcopter carrier "stay nearby", but China has some tools avalable, too, nanmely undersea robots and drones. It is to be hoped that they know precisely where the plane hit the sea bottom, so that they can guard the location against too pesky Chinese.
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