US Politics Thread 2021-24

[Arlo]

Originally Posted by u crank

Does Antifa qualify?

Certainly you think it does. Based on what?

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/interne...d-mob-n1253176

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...pitol-n1259297

"In an October 9 report, the Department of Homeland Security called the white-supremacist movement the “most persistent and lethal threat in the homeland”. By comparison, the Antifa movement has no structure or centralized hierarchy and thus it does not constitute a threat to American democracy, much less the United States."

https://theconversation.com/fact-che...-claims-150555

https://www.adl.org/antifa

[mapuc]

The Antifa movement is only active when there's a demonstration where they can have a fight with the police and destroy things.

It also happens they beat some right wing supporters.

Markus

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Arlo

Certainly you think it does. Based on what?

You are doing it again. I said no such thing. I asked a question, nothing more. You shouldn't try to think and speak for others. Bad form.

[Arlo]

Originally Posted by mapuc

The Antifa movement is only active when there's a demonstration where they can have a fight with the police and destroy things.

It also happens they beat some right wing supporters.

Sadly, I'm sure you believe that.

[Arlo]

Originally Posted by u crank

You are doing it again. I said no such thing. I asked a question, nothing more. You shouldn't try to think and speak for others. Bad form.

Feel free to correct me when I do. Never-the-less, why would you mention them, otherwise?

[Arlo]

Originally Posted by Otto Harkaman

He (she?) does it all the time and will wear you out, he (she?) always has to have the last word.

What's the dog you have in this, presently?

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Arlo

Never-the-less, why would you mention them, otherwise?

Why would I mention them? Well to see if you would agree that extremism exists on both the left and the right. But I think we are clear on your opinion there.

[Arlo]

Originally Posted by u crank

Why would I mention them? Well to see if you would agree that extremism exists on both the left and the right. But I think we are clear on your opinion there.

Should I drag you back through this thread to see how it started? (Hint: someone called CNN DNN then defined what that supposedly meant.) Whether I wanted to know how random your thought process is ... is beside the point.

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Arlo

Should I drag you back through this thread to see how it started?

That won't be necessary. I have a good memory. Let's sum up for the listeners who missed it.

You don't think that Left wing extremism is a threat to democracy, only Right wing extremism is.

And I think they both are.

Is that fair?

[Arlo]

Originally Posted by u crank

That won't be necessary. I have a good memory. Let's sum up for the listeners who missed it.

You don't think that Left wing extremism is a threat to democracy, only Right wing extremism is.

And I think they both are.

Is that fair?

To complete the picture ... you apparently think you see 'left wing extremism' where I don't and you apparently see threats to democracy where I don't. (Feel free to protest that you didn't post nor do you feel such. *ShruG*)

Let me illustrate.

If we were to agree that fascism is a form of extremism (per your insistence, I really don't know if you think so or not but I do) then what does that make anti-fascism per definition? Is it extremism on the other end or is it anti-extremism (bearing in mind that it's not an organized group, per say and that its only 'agenda' is to fight fascism)? Also bear in mind that there have been no individuals who espouse anti-fascism that have tried to overthrow the U.S. government, in whole or in part, nor is there any evidence of any anti-fascist individuals or groupings advocating doing so. There are no anti-fascist individuals or groupings arming themselves and standing at voting locations attempting to intimidate non-anti-fascists out of voting.

I am against extremism of all flavors - Muslim, Christian, Jewish, fascists, nazis, militants in general (homegrown unregulated militias qualify), white supremacists and so forth and so on. U.S. politics does not have an extreme left. There is definitely an extreme right, however, that seems to view everything to the left of it (no matter how slight) as extreme. Their fear/hatred of anti-fascism and the Black Lives Matter movement is merely an attempt at 'what-about-ism.'

Fair enough?

[Gorpet]

Originally Posted by Arlo

Should I drag you back through this thread to see how it started? (Hint: someone called CNN DNN then defined what that supposedly meant.) Whether I wanted to know how random your thought process is ... is beside the point.

Arlo , You are a Cuck an Woke it's all right . And it's a good thing you are behind a keyboard.

[Buddahaid]

Nothing wrong with being woke. It doesn't mean you have extreme views but that you can see where inequality lives.

[Arlo]

Originally Posted by Gorpet

Arlo , You are a Cuck an Woke it's all right . And it's a good thing you are behind a keyboard.

Uh oh. You better watch out or you'll go to the forum brig. Where are you? Behind your refrigerator?

[Gorpet]

Originally Posted by Arlo

Uh oh. You better watch out or you'll go to the forum brig. Where are you? Behind your refrigerator?

Is that the best you have.If it was not for forum stuff i would tear you a new ass young man.

[Arlo]

Originally Posted by Gorpet

Is that the best you have.If it was not for forum stuff i would tear you a new ass young man.

Is that a physical threat combined with a compliment? Good thing you're behind a keyboard, though, right?