US Politics Thread 2021-24 - Page 302

em2nought · 11-16-22, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ostfriese

By now too many republicans (should) have unterstood that Trump is a roadblock rather than a stepping stone, and it also has become obvious that there are other republican candidates who can/may/promise to deliver the same things, but are more competent and less dramatic.
I don't think Trump can get anywhere close to DeSantis in the primaries, let alone defeat him. Afterwards Trump might leave the republicans and form his own party, but only a small part of the party will follow him, the majority will be quietly thankful.

The mid-terms have just showed that being Trump-backed is a way to lose elections.

I thought it showed that being Trump-backed means you're subhuman so anything is fair in the fight against you, 25% of the vote counting machines in Maricopa county malfunctioning for instance because Kari Lake is a Nazi?

Skybird · 11-16-22, 07:04 AM

Lats night's not-so-new "news" is good news for the Democrats and bad news for democracy.

u crank · 11-16-22, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

... so I guess we'll find out if he eludes a felony conviction in the meantime.

There are those who believe that this may be the reason why he is running. If Biden's DOJ tries to indict him he can claim any number of things, but mainly that the Dems are trying to interfere in an election.

Oh man I gotta make some more popcorn.

mapuc · 11-16-22, 07:45 AM

One thing is sure-The American politics will from now on and until Nov 2023 be very interesting to follow. Well even after the election it will be interesting to follow-If Trump lose-His supporters are going to...yea you know....

Will it be the end of Rep. ?
Will Trump run solo if he is not elected as their candidate ?

And so on(forgot what I had on my mind)

Markus

August · 11-16-22, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

One thing is sure-The American politics will from now on and until Nov 2023 be very interesting to follow.

We are after all what has been called "A Lively Experiment"

Buddahaid · 11-16-22, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by u crank

There are those who believe that this may be the reason why he is running. If Biden's DOJ tries to indict him he can claim any number of things, but mainly that the Dems are trying to interfere in an election.

Oh man I gotta make some more popcorn.

That may be his hope but his legal problems all have been well established before his announcement.

u crank · 11-16-22, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

That may be his hope but his legal problems all have been well established before his announcement.

Well that we know. But like I said it won't stop Trump or his followers from making that claim. And I fully expect that the Dems will, while they still are in charge, try other things as well. Such as the 14th Amendment.

mapuc · 11-16-22, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by u crank

Well that we know. But like I said it won't stop Trump or his followers from making that claim. And I fully expect that the Dems will, while they still are in charge, try other things as well. Such as the 14th Amendment.

I had to look it up this 14th Amendment and it made me even more confused.

You have told me that Dem has done everything to get rid of Trump-But the text in this 14th Amendment say something different as I understand it. It says:

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No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Markus

Rockstar · 11-16-22, 11:26 AM

When you think about all the accusations made that voters believed in. After six years of political dog and pony shows and boondoggles at tax payer expense that resulted in no evidence, no indictments, no convictions, only empty promises, statements and one massive amount of trolling. The only thing left for Blue Anon as evidenced by what some of them here have said. The whole point then and now is to prevent him from running again. And of course if you disagree with that then YOU are the one who gets called un-American anti-democracy, fascists and what not. So much for that thing called voting huh?

Oh but wait I forgot I was told voters don’t believe what politicians tell them anyhow.

u crank · 11-16-22, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

I had to look it up this 14th Amendment and it made me even more confused.

This would be the relevant section.

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Section 3.

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

mapuc · 11-16-22, 12:28 PM

Thank you.

Another question-To use this 14th Amendment doesn't it require a sentencing ?What I understand Trump haven't got any sentencing yet.

Markus

u crank · 11-16-22, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

Thank you.

Another question-To use this 14th Amendment doesn't it require a sentencing ?What I understand Trump haven't got any sentencing yet.

Markus

And of course that is true. He has not been convicted of insurrection or rebellion but that won't stop some of the more deranged Dems in Congress from trying.

August · 11-16-22, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by u crank

This would be the relevant section.

Section 3.

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

In other words "We don't want any damn Johnny Rebs or anyone else from the former confederate states running for US President unless they we want to make an exception (and that ain't gonna happen)".

mapuc · 11-16-22, 01:07 PM

To become a President in USA you have to be born and have the American citizenship.

I know that in some States people have voted on animal like dog or cats.

With this in mind and the fact there's no rules about where they are born and whether they have an American citizenships or not

I'm going to let me 11 years old Female cat run for Presidency 2024.
Of course there will be a need of a few Americans to create the government.

Markus

Catfish · 11-16-22, 03:18 PM

^
Good idea

But then your cat must have been born in the US (?)
Also what i take from the first sentence is that the first US president at least must have been a native american indian.

11-16-22, 07:04 AM	#4517
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,496 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Lats night's not-so-new "news" is good news for the Democrats and bad news for democracy. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

11-16-22, 07:45 AM	#4519
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,886 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	One thing is sure-The American politics will from now on and until Nov 2023 be very interesting to follow. Well even after the election it will be interesting to follow-If Trump lose-His supporters are going to...yea you know.... Will it be the end of Rep. ? Will Trump run solo if he is not elected as their candidate ? And so on(forgot what I had on my mind) Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

11-16-22, 11:26 AM	#4524
Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 11,832 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	When you think about all the accusations made that voters believed in. After six years of political dog and pony shows and boondoggles at tax payer expense that resulted in no evidence, no indictments, no convictions, only empty promises, statements and one massive amount of trolling. The only thing left for Blue Anon as evidenced by what some of them here have said. The whole point then and now is to prevent him from running again. And of course if you disagree with that then YOU are the one who gets called un-American anti-democracy, fascists and what not. So much for that thing called voting huh? Oh but wait I forgot I was told voters don’t believe what politicians tell them anyhow. __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time. Last edited by Rockstar; 11-16-22 at 12:14 PM.

11-16-22, 12:28 PM	#4526
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,886 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Thank you. Another question-To use this 14th Amendment doesn't it require a sentencing ?What I understand Trump haven't got any sentencing yet. Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

11-16-22, 01:07 PM	#4529
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,886 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	To become a President in USA you have to be born and have the American citizenship. I know that in some States people have voted on animal like dog or cats. With this in mind and the fact there's no rules about where they are born and whether they have an American citizenships or not I'm going to let me 11 years old Female cat run for Presidency 2024. Of course there will be a need of a few Americans to create the government. Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

11-16-22, 03:18 PM	#4530
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	^ Good idea But then your cat must have been born in the US (?) Also what i take from the first sentence is that the first US president at least must have been a native american indian. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.