Here we go again-Ukraine once again

[Bubblehead1980]

Putin knows we have a elderly, weak, and senile martinet currently occupying the Presidency, feels emboldened by this. I am torn by this, should he invade without any real consequence, especially from the US he will be further emboldened. Then again, why should be get into a war over Ukraine? After all, the US outright invaded a sovereign nation without cause in 2003.

Then again, Biden's handlers know with the rising anger and angst among majority of the US population, great time for distraction eh? They are beating the war drums already. A incident to bring out the jingoistic fervor that resides like a dormant virus in our nations collective bloodstream is just what they need to distract the masses and silence opposition. Perilous times in which we exist..

[Exocet25fr]

Washington is crazy and very dangereous, Biden and usa need a new war after Vietnam and Irak, and continue in their provocation to obtain a WWIII, but the field of the game will be the EUROPE..........!

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Exocet25fr

Washington is crazy and very dangereous, Biden and usa need a new war after Vietnam and Irak, and continue in their provocation to obtain a WWIII, but the field of the game will be the EUROPE..........!

Yes, quite sad. Just a tad over 100 years after our first "adventure" in Europe ended, which led to the second "Great Adventure", we appear on the brink.

[mapuc]

NATO is sending more soldiers and material to Eastern Europe.
This is done to strengthen the defence in these countries

Markus

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Putin knows we have a elderly, weak, and senile martinet currently occupying the Presidency

martinet?


You sure that's the word you meant?

[Exocet25fr]

Martinet in french > Indiana's swift...!

[mapuc]

The question is what type of weakness does Biden have.

Is he weak in general when it comes to foreign affairs ?
Is he weak when it comes to the military ?

Markus

[Skybird]

Washington needs a new war after Vietnam and Iraq, says Exocet? Nonsense, nobody in the Biden cabinet dreams of fighting in or for or over the ukraine. The troops they consider to send, are reinforcements for NATO members in Eastern Europe - not for the Ukraine.

The most wanted reaction to an invasion would be an exclusion of Russia from SWIFT since this would give them pain. It cannot threaten them existentially, for that they are too autark, but it can cause them real pain. But Europeans are divide don this due to their bsuiensses with Russia, and especially Germany would hipe to prevcent this. The US would also want NS2 to be cancelled. This however is now to be had from the Germans.

No Western nation will wage war over or for the Ukraine. Not Germnay, not the rets of Europe, not the US. A strike against Eastern European NATO members however - thats an article 5 scenario.

Europe as well as the Ukaine have to expect serious Russian cyberspace activity by Russia, however, trying to spread chaos and distraction.

[Jimbuna]

An unconfirmed report indicates that Russia purchased 90,000 six-foot high male dummies from China a few months ago and the order was rushed through so they didn't have time to code 3 the faces so they appear more like Russians----instead of Chinese. Since Russia has millions of old Red Army uniforms in storage and some of them will fit a six-foot frame, the CIA is reportedly using a "spy in the sky" to zoom in and take a look at the Russian hordes "massed"on Ukraine's borders. First thing they saw was that many of them appear to be Chinese. Second thing is that most of them haven't moved a step since arriving. Hmmm?

[Jimbuna]

Russia to conduct live firing exercise of missiles off the coast of Ireland in February. Just coincidence of course!
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/russ...vdKhSqWBzh1n4s

[Jimbuna]

Prime Minister Boris Johnson has warned Russia that invading Ukraine would be "disastrous" and a "painful, violent and bloody business".

Speaking as the Foreign Office pulled some embassy staff out of Ukraine, the PM said the situation was "pretty gloomy" but war was not inevitable.

He said the UK was "leading on creating a package of economic sanctions" against Russia and was supplying defensive weaponry to Ukraine.

Nato is putting forces on standby.

It said Nato allies were sending additional ships and fighter jets to eastern Europe to reinforce defences and increase deterrence, in response to the continuing build-up of Russian forces.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60113271

[Skybird]

US has placed 8500 troops on alewrt for deplyoment to Eastern Europe.

Worthwhile to note: the Europeans were not even consultated, the decision was unilateral. Obviously Putin is not the only not giving much for the Europeans.

It became known that the UK airlift of weapons to the ukraine recently, mysteriously flew aroudn Germna airspace. Obviously Germany had not given them perimssion to use German air space. Another nice one, Germany.

I use to say that Turkey is an unreliable NATO partner. Fairness commands that I admit Germany probably has become the most unreliable amongst the European NATO members as well, and not just since this latest news. It benefits from what it always criticises and holds moral lecturesd against. Hypocrites.

[mapuc]

^ Can NATO expect help from Germany if, God forbid, there's a war between Russia and NATO ?

Reading some of your comment makes me wonder where Germans trust is-With the Russian or with NATO ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Germany will only bear arms in defence of her own territory and rightly so imho.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Platapus

martinet?


You sure that's the word you meant?

Haha I meant marionette of course. Typo. Thanks for pointing it out.