US Politics Thread 2021-24

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by August

Sure, so was the far left guy who shot up that Congressional softball game. But the question was about Trump and Biden, not some random nutter whose actual commitment to right or left is likely as shallow as the small puddle out at the end of my driveway.

I think I can sum up this election year with this...
https://www.bing.com/videos/rivervie...A&&FORM=VRDGAR

[Reece]

Correction:

[Cybermat47]

All I can say is that, with all the insanity we’ve seen in American politics since 2015, I hope that all the Americans here stay safe, and I encourage everyone to question their news sources - especially the ones that tell you what you want to hear. Nothing good ever came out of an echo chamber.

[Buddahaid]

"25 of the world’s greatest Civil War legal scholars have banded together to tell the United States Supreme Court that the drafters of the 14th Amendment in 1868 would be shocked that Trump was not instantly disqualified and banned from the ballot by his actions."

Here's the amicus brief filed to the SCOTUS.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketP...ci%20Brief.pdf

"INTRODUCTION AND SUMMARY OF ARGUMENT

This brief focuses on two textualist points. First, it
would violate the rule of law and textualism for this Court
to create an off-ramp to avoid adjudicating whether Mr.
Trump is disqualified. The power to decide a dispute about
a presidential candidate’s constitutional qualifications
is a judicial power that has been vested by the Electors
Clause initially in the States, and by Article III’s grant
of appellate jurisdiction ultimately in this Court. Section
5 of the Fourteenth Amendment merely gives Congress
power to legislate a judicial enforcement mechanism in
addition to this pre-existing judicial power of the States
and this Court.

Mr. Trump does not argue that the Constitution gives
Congress judicial power over a presidential qualifications
dispute. Section 5 of Article I gives Congress the power
only to “be the Judge of the . . . Qualifications of its own
Members.” In contrast, Section 3 of the Fourteenth
Amendment merely checks the judicial power of the
courts by giving Congress the power by two-thirds vote
to remove, for any reason, disqualification under Section
3, even after it has been judicially adjudicated.
Second, the terms of Section 3 of the Fourteenth
Amendment disqualify Mr. Trump. The Court should heed
the warning of Justice Holmes that cases of “immediate
overwhelming interest” often “make bad law.” Northern
Sec. Corp. v. United States, 193 U.S. 197, 400-01 (1904)
(Holmes, J., dissenting). Particularly because Section
3 emerged from the hallowed ground of the Civil War,
this Court must accord Section 3 its fair meaning, not a
narrow construction. Mr. Trump was “President of the
United States.” U.S. Const. art. II, § 1, cl. 1. He never
disputes that the President is an “officer.” It follows, as
the Fourteenth Amendment generation understood, that
the “President of the United States” is an “officer of the
United States.” Mr. Trump incited, and therefore engaged
in, an armed insurrection against the Constitution’s
express and foundational mandates that require the
peaceful transfer of executive power to a newly-elected
President. In doing so, Mr. Trump disqualified himself
under Section 3."

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

All I can say is that, with all the insanity we’ve seen in American politics since 2015, I hope that all the Americans here stay safe, and I encourage everyone to question their news sources - especially the ones that tell you what you want to hear. Nothing good ever came out of an echo chamber.

Hear hear note that those echo chambers are being used by Russia and China, how more those countries can polarize the West how happier they are.

[Buddahaid]

The DC Court of Appeals rules you have no special immunity citizen Trump and until February 12th to appeal to the SCOTUS.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md...appeal-denied/

[August]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

The DC Court of Appeals rules you have no special immunity citizen Trump and until February 12th to appeal to the SCOTUS.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md...appeal-denied/

Again you're writing like Trump himself is reading this forum. It's gotten personal for you eh? You're like a modern day Inspector Javert. What are you going to do when he beats the rap like he's beaten every other Democrat travesty of justice?

[mapuc]

According to a Danish newspaper Trump will start a Trade war with China, so say 3 independent sources. If he win the Presidential election.

He hasn't won yet and already now they are after him as he was the President.

Found an English version of this article

However, a closer examination of the aftermath of the first trade war and its political ramifications within the Republican Party would lead to a different perspective

https://thediplomat.com/2024/02/woul...trade-war-2-0/

Markus

[Buddahaid]

The DC Court of Appeals rules you have no special immunity citizen Trump and until February 12th to appeal to the SCOTUS.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md...appeal-denied/

[Buddahaid]

More bad news for Trump with Weisselberg reported to be in a plea deal for perjury.

Judge Engoron has sent an email to the attorneys asking for briefs.
https://www.meidastouch.com/news/jud...perjury-report

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by August

Again you're writing like Trump himself is reading this forum. It's gotten personal for you eh? You're like a modern day Inspector Javert. What are you going to do when he beats the rap like he's beaten every other Democrat travesty of justice?

Ad hominem attack is all you have.

Personally, I’m wondering if the SCOTUS will hear an appeal or chicken out so they don’t need to choose sides.

[August]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Ad hominem attack is all you have.

Personally, I’m wondering if the SCOTUS will hear an appeal or chicken out so they don’t need to choose sides.

Well call it what you want but I do worry how you're going to take it when your side fails yet again. As it stands now he'll likely beat nutty Joe if they can't prevent him from getting on the ballot and that just might send you over the edge!

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by August

Well call it what you want but I do worry how you're going to take it when your side fails yet again. As it stands now he'll likely beat nutty Joe if they can't prevent him from getting on the ballot and that just might send you over the edge!

The only way a president will be a Republican in the 2024 election is when Trump falls out and Nikki Haley is nominated.

[August]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

The only way a president will be a Republican in the 2024 election is when Trump falls out and Nikki Haley is nominated.

Don't be so sure. Todays polls:

[Buddahaid]

Polls are pretty meaningless at this time.

Anyway, the House fails to impeach Mayorkas in yet another MAGA failure.