Gunman kills 19 children, 2 adults in Texas grade school

[Rockstar]

Hey if denial and thinking Trump and the NRA have anything do to with this helps you sleep better at night go for it.


Here’s the first story I read that IMO begins asking the good and pertinent questions.

It’s not Trump, the NRA I doubt the kid even knew how to spell Trump let alone ever listen to any his political speeches. It’s cause and effect, quality of life, strength of family bonds, outside influences within the immediate sphere, it starts in the home. There needs to be a daddy who knows the difference between right and wrong, responsible and irresponsible behavior and can teach his children. Instead of video games and tiktok

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ob...ers/ar-AAXOS4h


This picture right here IMO sums up the only world Salvador Ramos ever knew.

[Rockstar]

Not a bad idea.

Jon Voight, Outspoken GOP Supporter, Calls For ‘Proper Qualifications for Gun Ownership’ After Uvalde Shooting

https://variety.com/2022/politics/ne...ol-1235280563/

So far I’m agreeable too the following

1. To purchase from FFL, mandatory firearm safety and practical shooting course for all types of firearms. Fees paid by applicant.

2. Raise purchase age to 21

3. One other thing, display responsibility. Must have a job and make a living wage and be owner or lessee of their own domicile. Should be relatively easy for someone to do before they reach 21.

Bums, delinquents, ne'er-do-wells, drug addicts, convicts and children need not apply.

[mapuc]

^ I would following to his list

4. The buyer has to take a psychological test-paid by the applicant.
Markus

[Xerxes]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Not a bad idea.

Jon Voight, Outspoken GOP Supporter, Calls For ‘Proper Qualifications for Gun Ownership’ After Uvalde Shooting

https://variety.com/2022/politics/ne...ol-1235280563/

So far I’m agreeable too the following

1. To purchase from FFL, mandatory firearm safety and practical shooting course for all types of firearms. Fees paid by applicant.

2. Raise purchase age to 21

3. One other thing, display responsibility. Must have a job and make a living wage and be owner or lessee of their own domicile. Should be relatively easy for someone to do before they reach 21.

Bums, delinquents, ne'er-do-wells, drug addicts, convicts and children need not apply.

I agree with 21 for long arms, as long as the voting age gets raised as well

On a serious note, the firearm safety course should be a once every 5 years type of thing. Either that, or get a CCL. Just some thoughts. It should also be a crime to have a gun not stored properly if you have a mentally ill person in the house. (Mentally ill would have to be via a court of law/county clerk, with multiple specialists concurring)

As i’ve said, I don’t think age requirements would help, backdoor gun deals still happen, and nuts don’t care about gun laws. I personally think the real solution is better mental care, and locking nuts up, as well as helping those who are suicidal.

[Xerxes]

Originally Posted by mapuc

^ I would following to his list

4. The buyer has to take a psychological test-paid by the applicant.
Markus

I disagree, too onerous and subjective.

[mapuc]

Reading all the answer from you my American friends tells me that you want some type of regulation-I hope you are on your trusted politician-Because it's them who has the last word in this.

Markus

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Not a bad idea.

Jon Voight, Outspoken GOP Supporter, Calls For ‘Proper Qualifications for Gun Ownership’ After Uvalde Shooting

https://variety.com/2022/politics/ne...ol-1235280563/

So far I’m agreeable too the following

1. To purchase from FFL, mandatory firearm safety and practical shooting course for all types of firearms. Fees paid by applicant.

2. Raise purchase age to 21

3. One other thing, display responsibility. Must have a job and make a living wage and be owner or lessee of their own domicile. Should be relatively easy for someone to do before they reach 21.

Bums, delinquents, ne'er-do-wells, drug addicts, convicts and children need not apply.

I won't argue with that but I think those requirments will never get through Congress and even if they did the Supreme Court would kill it.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

I won't argue with that but I think those requirments will never get through Congress and even if they did the Supreme Court would kill it.

You want changes in your gun laws. as I said above your comment-Put pressure on your trusted politician - Demand a change.

Markus

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by mapuc

You want changes in your gun laws. as I said above your comment-Put pressure on your trusted politician - Demand a change.

Markus

There is already a popular majority supporting changes which just shows how far that sentiment goes. The will of the people is second to the will of powerfull influence.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

There is already a popular majority supporting changes which just shows how far that sentiment goes. The will of the people is second to the will of powerfull influence.

You have a powerful weapon and you don't know about it-Your right to say what's on your mind in the voting bot.

Vote for those who are for changes and not the one you use to put your vote on. I know that people/voters are locked-on their party and politician.

Markus

[August]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

There is already a popular majority supporting changes which just shows how far that sentiment goes. The will of the people is second to the will of powerfull influence.

I think you vastly overrate the influence of a relatively small industry. According to the article I just read gun and ammo manufacturers only made 17 billion in 2018, most of that money coming from the defense department sales to foreign governments. Gun stores that year drew in another 11 billion. Small potatoes as far as "powerful influences" go.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

I won't argue with that but I think those requirments will never get through Congress and even if they did the Supreme Court would kill it.

Right now I believe the age to purchase a handgun from a FFL is 21. Shouldn’t be too hard to bump up the age for long guns and make it stick.

Right now the the only ones offering ideas IMO are those with big money and influence. Maybe for once us lowly “we the people” will get off our collective arses and respectfully offer them our ideas of what policy should be for once.

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Right now I believe the age to purchase a handgun from a FFL is 21. Shouldn’t be too hard to bump up the age for long guns and make it stick.

If you want my support for that, then the age of majority should be raised accordingly, that includes joining the military, voting, and entering legally binding contracts, etc.

[Xerxes]

Originally Posted by MaDef

If you want my support for that, then the age of majority should be raised accordingly, that includes joining the military, voting, and entering legally binding contracts, etc.

I agree. Why block folks from buying a gun at 18, when they can just join the military and use even more dangerous munitions.

[Xerxes]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Right now I believe the age to purchase a handgun from a FFL is 21. Shouldn’t be too hard to bump up the age for long guns and make it stick.

Right now the the only ones offering ideas IMO are those with big money and influence. Maybe for once us lowly “we the people” will get off our collective arses and respectfully offer them our ideas of what policy should be for once.

Yeah, we need to make the politicians listen for once.

I disagree with higher ages, that makes no difference, as I have said, if they can't buy one legally, they'll steal or buy a stolen one. Plus, some shooters have been over 21.