Gunman kills 19 children, 2 adults in Texas grade school

[Jeff-Groves]

Originally Posted by Skybird

harping on about abstract principles.

So says one who does EXACTLY the same thing with walls of text.

I have all the equipment in my basement work shop.
All the knowledge to build things like automatic weapons and silencers for them, timed or proximity bombs, etc.
But for some strange reason? I haven't went hunting Humans nor ever built said devices.

So there's a more important function involved that no one seems to want to address.

[mapuc]

Please tell me I'm wrong but I get the feeling that the Americans values the 2nd Amendment more than a human life.

Markus

[Jeff-Groves]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Please tell me I'm wrong but I get the feeling that the Americans values the 2nd Amendment more than a human life.

Markus

And another BS post to elicit emotional responces.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

And another BS post to elicit emotional responces.

Then I was wrong-Thank you

Markus

[Jeff-Groves]

My opinion?
Should the 2nd Amendment be taken away and Gov't try to come get the registered guns?

The Ukraine will look like a cartoon! And the whole World will suffer the results.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Please tell me I'm wrong but I get the feeling that the Americans values the 2nd Amendment more than a human life.

Markus

Dude, really, did you just accuse me of not caring about human life? It sure as hell looks it too me. Two words immediately come to mind which express exactly what I think about your accusation of me. “Piss off” as defined by Citations–all from British or Commonwealth sources–date from 1934 with the most recent being from David Mitchell’s Black Swan Green, 2006: “The gypsy kid sat under the cedar sending out piss off waves.” The dictionary doesn’t say so, but it seems to me clearly a euphemism for the saltier “f— off.”.

[Jeff-Groves]

Seems solutions from those outside the USA is based on crazy thinking.

Their solution to problems in a marriage would probably be
"Get rid of the Spouse!"

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

Seems solutions from those outside the USA is based on crazy thinking.

Their solution to problems in a marriage would probably be
"Get rid of the Spouse!"

Hold on, let me write that down.

[Gorpet]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Enough for what? You seem to be focused on the usual media arguments revolving around self defense, militias, Democrat vs Republican etc etc. But there is a lot of fun for the caveman in all of us to be had too.

Ya know Rockstar is a Yankiee, And he is just throwing up what the folks around him look like. And it's a damn good respiration. I don't see swamps behind them . But is the term Caveman inclusive and if it is not.It's going to piss somebody off. yes i think i'll have another of my medical joints. And life is good,I have found the best buds and it has led me to what i was searching for. Socialist Utopia and i'm becoming a minimalist i only need weed ,water and ramen noodles,I thank our great leader Joe and the Democrats, being born in 1958. If i just had that crystal ball.My last coherint thoughts

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Dude, really, did you just accuse me of not caring about human life? It sure as hell looks it too me. Two words immediately come to mind which express exactly what I think about your accusation of me. “Piss off” as defined by Citations–all from British or Commonwealth sources–date from 1934 with the most recent being from David Mitchell’s Black Swan Green, 2006: “The gypsy kid sat under the cedar sending out piss off waves.” The dictionary doesn’t say so, but it seems to me clearly a euphemism for the saltier “f— off.”.

Sorry I was terrible wrong I shouldn't have written it.

It was because some of the interviews Swedish and Danish tv had made in Texas where they interviewed ordinary people and the answer they gave. Made me wonder. Nevertheless I understood I was wrong. Wrong in generalizing-
Once again I'm sorry accusing you and the other of my American friends.

Markus

[mapuc]

It should have been written this way

The following weeks after the mass shooting un Uvalde Texas Danish and Swedish tv had some reporters in that state and the answer they got from ordinary Texan gave me the impression that there are some American who value the 2nd Amendment more than a life.

Markus

[Rockstar]

I value both the Constitution AND life. I worked in Galena Park, TX for three years does that count?

The problem lies not with guns or the 2nd amendment the problem is with the few people who do not value their own or another’s life. Some say to change that it starts in the home, with a father, a mother. None which Salvador Ramos had.

[Sean C]

[Commander Wallace]

Originally Posted by mapuc

It should have been written this way

The following weeks after the mass shooting un Uvalde Texas Danish and Swedish tv had some reporters in that state and the answer they got from ordinary Texan gave me the impression that there are some American who value the 2nd Amendment more than a life.

Markus

Being that you reside in Denmark, I don't blame you that you may have a distorted perception of the U.S . With few exceptions of violence, perpetrated by disturbed individuals, we value all life. Unfortunately, it's those exceptions and those horrible individuals that get the headlines. Why is that ? Simple. Bad news travels fast, grabs the headlines and sells newspapers.

Whenever a disaster, earthquake, tsunami's, etc hits a country, it's usually the U.S that is one of the first countries to respond. In a number of documented cases, people from the U.S have left their jobs, families and positions to travel to another country experiencing a disaster to render aid and expertise. How many other countries do that ?

With regards to weapons, I notice it's rarely if ever reported that an armed homeowner or someone with a concealed carry license protected his home and or family from an armed intruder or intervened to protect a police officer that was being attacked with a legally owned and carried weapon.

If you watch the news or read the papers, armed cowards attack soft targets like grade schools and the like where they know an armed response isn't likely. Responsible, armed citizens make poor targets. Why you ask ? Quite simply, armed cowards such as what we are talking about don't want to attack a school, institution or home where they know there is a good chance of their fire being returned and an armed response is a certainty. In the case of the Uvalde school shootings, there were inexcusable break downs of protocols.

Before you say the U.S doesn't value life, you should perform your due diligence in ascertaining the facts and look at the big picture and our collective history. I understand your perception of the U.S is being filtered through various news outlets that may well have an agenda and so, you may not have a clear picture. I would ask that your analysis be based on the facts and not hype.

[Ostfriese]

Originally Posted by Commander Wallace

Whenever a disaster, earthquake, tsunami's, etc hits a country, it's usually the U.S that is one of the first countries to respond. In a number of documented cases, people from the U.S have left their jobs, families and positions to travel to another country experiencing a disaster to render aid and expertise. How many other countries do that ?

Almost all Western countries.

If you watch the news or read the papers, armed cowards attack soft targets like grade schools and the like where they know an armed response isn't likely. Responsible, armed citizens make poor targets. Why you ask ? Quite simply, armed cowards such as what we are talking about don't want to attack a school, institution or home where they know there is a good chance of their fire being returned and an armed response is a certainty. In the case of the Uvalde school shootings, there were inexcusable break downs of protocols.

Then why is this a US-only problem and not a problem of the nations with very few armed citizens? And as far as I remember there have been several school shootings in which the "coward" knew perfectly well that there could and would be armed resistance, yet he still went on. I even remember one shooting in which the perpetrator wore some kind of armor (have to look up which shooting it was).


The main point remains: between 2009 and 2018 the US had 288 school shootings. The other G7 nations had 5 (five) combined, and these six nations have a combined population of 435 million people, about one third more than the US.