Gunman kills 19 children, 2 adults in Texas grade school

[les green01]

don't forget some of the lefties wants to get rid of the police another damn good reason have them better to have them and not need them than to need them and not have them but then once in a time a government tried to take Americans firearms away wonder how that turn out oh wait we know

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Ya maybe it does, just a little.

I’m just throwing out ideas. It’s been said Democrats no longer accept donations from the gun lobby. But damn do they ever rake it from the pharmaceutical companies. So I expect prescription drugs that are known to cause some pretty heinous side effects will never be considered anyway.

That's because politicians in this county in both parties are and have been bought and paid by corporations for decades now. Politicians are there to give American's the illusion we have freedom of choice. We don't, the corporations own everything, us, the government, all the good land, you name it they own it. If we going to go around finger pointing you'll never see someone especially a politician running around pointing their finger at the gun manufactures AND the pharmaceutical companies will you? But what happens if a person gets shot but not killed, they got to a hospital where they're put on some really strong drugs right?

[Buddahaid]

[Ostfriese]

Originally Posted by August

Well for one reason a well regulated militia is necessary for the security of a free state.

Then why are there nations in which citizens enjoy more freedom without any sort of militia?

[August]

Originally Posted by Ostfriese

Then why are there nations in which citizens enjoy more freedom without any sort of militia?

Beats me. I never heard of another nation that has more freedom than ours.

[Ostfriese]

Originally Posted by August

Beats me. I never heard of another nation that has more freedom than ours.

Most of the western European nations.
Australia.
Likely Japan.
Probably even South Korea (I don't know enough about South Korea).

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by Ostfriese

Then why are there nations in which citizens enjoy more freedom without any sort of militia?

Because they have the USA for a sugar daddy?

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by em2nought

Because they have the USA for a sugar daddy?

Do please give some examples of this being the case in Finland. I am truly curious.

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Ya maybe it does, just a little. But then what is the idea behind barring someone from purchasing a firearm because they used marijuana?

I’m just throwing out ideas. It’s been said Democrats no longer accept donations from the gun lobby. But damn do they ever rake it from the pharmaceutical companies. So I expect prescription drugs that are known to cause some pretty heinous side effects will never be considered anyway.

In 1968 the Government passed the Gun Control Act, and made it illegal to buy or own a firearm if using or possessing a Schedule one drug, and in 1970 the FEDS classified Marijuana as a schedule 1 drug (which means it had no acceptable medical use at the time, and was fairly easy to abuse) , making it illegal to use or posses.

If you are wondering why alcohol was included, it's already illegal to buy or have a firearm in your possession while under the influence of alcohol.

There is no "magic bullet" (pun intended) in addressing these types of killings. The root cause is instant gratification coupled with lack of accountability on the part of the shooters, and they get that from society at large. Address that, and you will see progress.

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Do please give some examples of this being the case in Finland. I am truly curious.

Nazi Germany was Finland's sugar daddy wasn't it?

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by em2nought

Nazi Germany was Finland's sugar daddy wasn't it?

So you can't give any examples. How surprising.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Kptlt. Neuerburg

That's because politicians in this county in both parties are and have been bought and paid by corporations for decades now. Politicians are there to give American's the illusion we have freedom of choice. We don't, the corporations own everything, us, the government, all the good land, you name it they own it. If we going to go around finger pointing you'll never see someone especially a politician running around pointing their finger at the gun manufactures AND the pharmaceutical companies will you? But what happens if a person gets shot but not killed, they got to a hospital where they're put on some really strong drugs right?

I don’t understand what you just said.

Allow me to reiterate:

I am for raising the purchasing age of a firearm to 21.

I am for “red flagging” people who take drugs known to cause or may cause violent, homicidal or suicidal thoughts or behavior.

I am for showing proof of responsibility namely, holding a job, which pays for home ownership or rental property. In other words if you’re 21 or older and still liviing with mommy and daddy you’re still a child and not considered responsible.

I am for allowing 18 year olds or older to volunteer for military service and vote.

I am for investigating what changed or why the uptick in violence in the last 40 years.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Ostfriese

Then why are there nations in which citizens enjoy more freedom without any sort of militia?

I give up, why?

[August]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Do please give some examples of this being the case in Finland. I am truly curious.

Says the guy whose country is now begging to join NATO and get under the protection of the USofA.

[MaDef]

I am for investigating what changed or why the uptick in violence in the last 40 years.

The Following, in no particular order, is a list of causes:

• Increase in population of 100+ million
• Rise of social media
• Refusal of DA's to prosecute crime
• The rise of the ANTIFA & BLM movements
• The Covid-19 pandemic (and the Gov. response)
• the widespread acceptance of recreational drug use
• the rise of CRT (critical Race Theory)
• Defund the police movement
• Lack of acceptable role models for children
• lack of 2 parent households for children
• politicians pitting one demographic against another in order to get elected or remain in office.
• An increase of people wanting instant gratification
• A decrease of holding people accountable for their actions

Address the last 2 on the list and you will see a precipitous drop in violence (and probably crime).