Presence of AI aircraft

pegasusairandspace · 04-01-22, 04:05 PM

Hello all, most remember the famous scenes in das boot with the airplane and the 'ALARM!' being yelled down the conning tower. Well lately I haven't had to do much of that. I remember on some of my first patrols (starting early 1941 and run in real time i.e. no time skipping) that there was quite a few aircraft about. I even shot one down once. Yet lately not much has been happening in the air. Its now about September of 41 and I've looked at the Campaign RND file and found a good few aircraft in there (yet not the hurricane and a few others however) and I've checked the airstrike file. That all seems in order and in fact I know the aircraft fly when they are scripted in. Recently I have acquired SH3 commander as well as Captain's Choice Of Mods which provides a new interior amongst other things. I'm using v1.6 with the new weather fixes etc as well. I was just worried if any of those were perhaps causing it. Note that my CCOM is not fully installed, just the bits I wanted really and I don't actually recall the RND being changed. So is it just me worrying about nothing and that in fact the aircraft are supposed to be sporadic...or is there something odd up? Bear in mind that it's been at least two patrols without any activity. Now it could be my route as lately I tend to go south before heading west rather than just cutting directly west along the UK's South coast.

-Thank you

pegasusairandspace · 04-01-22, 06:15 PM

There is one thing I've noticed, when I open the RND using the editor, I see very few aircraft in there. Most are down in the med in 41 (I have the med expansion pack installed) but for around the UK, GB-Air18(or whatever it is called) has 42 and not 41. Would this explain it and should there be more?

FUBAR295 · 04-01-22, 06:36 PM

Are you using a mega mod??? If so, which one??? Post a list of the mods you have activated.

pegasusairandspace · 04-03-22, 05:37 PM

Well as a stated, I have SH3 commander installed, some parts of CCOM and a bunch of small and not related mods that are mostly sounds and textures. No big mega mods however, unless U-boat Mediterranean expansion counts . Now I've opened up all layers and found that actually, whilst there are no random aircraft programmed in for the Atlantic, there are a series of airbases listed such as Tangmere. So I guess the airbases follow the air-strike cfg and so me not making many transmissions might mean I have only a 10% chance of attack?

John Pancoast · 04-03-22, 06:03 PM

Aircraft are generally controlled by two methods in SH3 campaign files. Note the Airstrike.cfg file controls these entries.
- scripted into the campaign.scr file.
- via their airbase entries in the campaign.lnd file.

pegasusairandspace · 04-03-22, 07:32 PM

Yeah I was wondering that. As far as I know, CCOM never touched it. Although I think v1.6 did tinker with the amount of aircraft I'm not sure. Either way I'll compare the probabilities set by the default vanilla cfg to the one I have and see how it is. Admittedly though I have avoided transmitting lately and so I understand that the less contact I have with the enemy as well as radio, the less the probability of strike increases. I think mine is set to 10 by default and gets modified from there

How often should I be attacked during mid 41?

04-01-22, 04:05 PM	#1
pegasusairandspace Swabbie Join Date: Sep 2020 Posts: 12 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Presence of AI aircraft Hello all, most remember the famous scenes in das boot with the airplane and the 'ALARM!' being yelled down the conning tower. Well lately I haven't had to do much of that. I remember on some of my first patrols (starting early 1941 and run in real time i.e. no time skipping) that there was quite a few aircraft about. I even shot one down once. Yet lately not much has been happening in the air. Its now about September of 41 and I've looked at the Campaign RND file and found a good few aircraft in there (yet not the hurricane and a few others however) and I've checked the airstrike file. That all seems in order and in fact I know the aircraft fly when they are scripted in. Recently I have acquired SH3 commander as well as Captain's Choice Of Mods which provides a new interior amongst other things. I'm using v1.6 with the new weather fixes etc as well. I was just worried if any of those were perhaps causing it. Note that my CCOM is not fully installed, just the bits I wanted really and I don't actually recall the RND being changed. So is it just me worrying about nothing and that in fact the aircraft are supposed to be sporadic...or is there something odd up? Bear in mind that it's been at least two patrols without any activity. Now it could be my route as lately I tend to go south before heading west rather than just cutting directly west along the UK's South coast. -Thank you Last edited by pegasusairandspace; 04-01-22 at 06:14 PM.

04-01-22, 06:36 PM	#3
FUBAR295 Krusty Krab Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Decks awash in the North Atlantic Posts: 1,286 Downloads: 442 Uploads: 0	Are you using a mega mod??? If so, which one??? Post a list of the mods you have activated. __________________ Good judgment comes from experience. Unfortunately, the experience usually comes from bad judgment.

04-03-22, 06:03 PM	#5
John Pancoast Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Minnysoda Posts: 3,189 Downloads: 490 Uploads: 4	Aircraft are generally controlled by two methods in SH3 campaign files. Note the Airstrike.cfg file controls these entries. - scripted into the campaign.scr file. - via their airbase entries in the campaign.lnd file. __________________ "Realistic" is not always GAME-GOOD." - Wave Skipper

04-01-22, 06:15 PM	#2
pegasusairandspace Swabbie Join Date: Sep 2020 Posts: 12 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	There is one thing I've noticed, when I open the RND using the editor, I see very few aircraft in there. Most are down in the med in 41 (I have the med expansion pack installed) but for around the UK, GB-Air18(or whatever it is called) has 42 and not 41. Would this explain it and should there be more?

04-03-22, 05:37 PM	#4
pegasusairandspace Swabbie Join Date: Sep 2020 Posts: 12 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Well as a stated, I have SH3 commander installed, some parts of CCOM and a bunch of small and not related mods that are mostly sounds and textures. No big mega mods however, unless U-boat Mediterranean expansion counts . Now I've opened up all layers and found that actually, whilst there are no random aircraft programmed in for the Atlantic, there are a series of airbases listed such as Tangmere. So I guess the airbases follow the air-strike cfg and so me not making many transmissions might mean I have only a 10% chance of attack?

04-03-22, 07:32 PM	#6
pegasusairandspace Swabbie Join Date: Sep 2020 Posts: 12 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Yeah I was wondering that. As far as I know, CCOM never touched it. Although I think v1.6 did tinker with the amount of aircraft I'm not sure. Either way I'll compare the probabilities set by the default vanilla cfg to the one I have and see how it is. Admittedly though I have avoided transmitting lately and so I understand that the less contact I have with the enemy as well as radio, the less the probability of strike increases. I think mine is set to 10 by default and gets modified from there How often should I be attacked during mid 41?