Rudder destroyed = Game Over

csengoi · 09-04-08, 07:10 AM

Today I was on my way to home after my patrol. I had several aircraft attacks, and I've decided to stay on surface and fight the attacking plane. Then in an unlucky attack I sufferd some damage, my propeller shafts went red, and my rudder was destroyed, so the submarine could only go straight ahead. My damage control team did nothing to repair it.
My questions are:
-Why don't I receive a normal report that it is unfixible?
-I could make my way to Norwegen, but I could do nothing, I mean I made a status report, but the answer was: continue my mission. Well thanks a lot, without rudder???
Why can't I call for a repair or tug boat?
Why can't I order abandon ship near friendly shores?

All I could do is to run on shore, and my sub was destroyed. All hands lost...

Will-Rommel · 09-04-08, 11:31 AM

Indeed this is really an immersion killer. Dev's should work around this in any future project (Game) they plan to release.

W4lt3r · 09-04-08, 11:49 AM

Same thing happened to me aswell on my 2nd career on German side. Oddly enough, i was submerged around middle of the indian ocean, periscope up and havent seen anything and im already pinged, had plotted an attack route for a convoy and seemingly the escorts magically heard my sub going 2 knots underwater.

Anyhow, a DC popped off my rudder aswell, along with taking some damage on my hull and deck guns but most stuff i got fixed but was thinking "why the heck i cant steer" and checked the rudder. Well it was blown off... *sigh*

Yes, it should be fixable.. especially if you got that super engineer or whatever he is that can repair destroyed items..

Pablo · 09-04-08, 04:20 PM

Hi!

I think any destroyed item can be replaced during a mission only if you have the engineer with the "repair destroyed items" special ability. I'll bet the Bismarck wished they'd had such an engineer on board....

IRL the U-boat could steer by running its port and starboard engines at different speeds or in opposite directions, albeit not as quickly as a rudder, but that is not possible in SH4.

Pablo

csengoi · 09-04-08, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo

Hi!

I think any destroyed item can be replaced during a mission only if you have the engineer with the "repair destroyed items" special ability. I'll bet the Bismarck wished they'd had such an engineer on board....

IRL the U-boat could steer by running its port and starboard engines at different speeds or in opposite directions, albeit not as quickly as a rudder, but that is not possible in SH4.

Pablo

Yes, I remember in SH2 you could do it. Furthermore, you could switch to electric propulsion even on the surface, and manually set the diving planes. I miss those things.

Bosje · 09-07-08, 10:53 AM

i not only miss them, i need them. having awful trouble getting my head around the way the game engine controls my depth. it's not at all working like it should and it damn near killed me just now.

If there is any way at all to control the dive planes, please let me know. As it is, there seems to be something working its magic deep inside the system, using ballast tanks and making noise and generally not doing what it's being told. without me, the player, having any control over it.

edit: oops going off-topic. sorry.
shame about your boats being doomed without the rudders, guys. sorry to hear that

09-04-08, 07:10 AM	#1
csengoi A-ganger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hungary Posts: 75 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	Rudder destroyed = Game Over Today I was on my way to home after my patrol. I had several aircraft attacks, and I've decided to stay on surface and fight the attacking plane. Then in an unlucky attack I sufferd some damage, my propeller shafts went red, and my rudder was destroyed, so the submarine could only go straight ahead. My damage control team did nothing to repair it. My questions are: -Why don't I receive a normal report that it is unfixible? -I could make my way to Norwegen, but I could do nothing, I mean I made a status report, but the answer was: continue my mission. Well thanks a lot, without rudder??? Why can't I call for a repair or tug boat? Why can't I order abandon ship near friendly shores? All I could do is to run on shore, and my sub was destroyed. All hands lost...

09-04-08, 11:31 AM	#2
Will-Rommel Chief Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 320 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	Indeed this is really an immersion killer. Dev's should work around this in any future project (Game) they plan to release. __________________ -Fighting is a lifestyle-

09-04-08, 04:20 PM	#4
Pablo Commodore Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 641 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 0	Hi! I think any destroyed item can be replaced during a mission only if you have the engineer with the "repair destroyed items" special ability. I'll bet the Bismarck wished they'd had such an engineer on board.... IRL the U-boat could steer by running its port and starboard engines at different speeds or in opposite directions, albeit not as quickly as a rudder, but that is not possible in SH4. Pablo __________________ "...far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat." - Theodore Roosevelt, speech before the Hamilton Club, Chicago, April 10, 1899

09-07-08, 10:53 AM	#6
Bosje Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 732 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	i not only miss them, i need them. having awful trouble getting my head around the way the game engine controls my depth. it's not at all working like it should and it damn near killed me just now. If there is any way at all to control the dive planes, please let me know. As it is, there seems to be something working its magic deep inside the system, using ballast tanks and making noise and generally not doing what it's being told. without me, the player, having any control over it. edit: oops going off-topic. sorry. shame about your boats being doomed without the rudders, guys. sorry to hear that __________________ And when an 800-ton Uboat has you by the tits... you listen!

09-04-08, 11:49 AM	#3
W4lt3r Ensign Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 222 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Same thing happened to me aswell on my 2nd career on German side. Oddly enough, i was submerged around middle of the indian ocean, periscope up and havent seen anything and im already pinged, had plotted an attack route for a convoy and seemingly the escorts magically heard my sub going 2 knots underwater. Anyhow, a DC popped off my rudder aswell, along with taking some damage on my hull and deck guns but most stuff i got fixed but was thinking "why the heck i cant steer" and checked the rudder. Well it was blown off... sigh Yes, it should be fixable.. especially if you got that super engineer or whatever he is that can repair destroyed items..