Here we go again-Ukraine once again pt2

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Shells-In the news here yesterday it was told that due to lack of ammos like shells Ukraine is only using 1000 to 1500 per day, while Russia use 10.000-15.000 per day.

I guess this must have changed to the better now for the Ukrainians.

More on this jamming thing.

What do we know exactly !?

Is there a different in amount of rockets/missiles being used against a target compared from the start of the war and now ?

Markus

We do not know anything exactly, that's the fog of war those rockets/missiles attack takes time to plan it takes a lot of time to get intel on targets and it defence maybe there are lesser attacks (or claimed). But still see attacks on Crimea, on munition hubs and in the Black Sea the Ukraine drone attacks are becoming larger (+80 per attack). How more you hit, how lesser the targets become it is not that Russia has air, radar systems or ships enough in stock or production to replace.

[mapuc]

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[Rockstar]

Ukraine is clearly aware that the war will end in negotiations, - NSDC Secretary Lytvynenko

14:02 20.05.2024 16 651156

https://m.censor.net/ua/news/3490355...nbo_lytvynenka

Ukraine needs a truce not for 2 years, but a sustainable peace for decades.

This was stated in an address to the participants of the Baltic Sea Region Forum: "NATO 2024 and Arctic Europe" NSDC Secretary Oleksandr Lytvynenko, reportsCensor.NET.

"Ukraine is clearly aware that the war will end in negotiations. And so the formula of peace of President Zelenskyy was prepared and promoted. Our position is very simple and convinced, it will be supported by the participants of the Peace Summit in Switzerland in June 2024. This is a real diplomatic track that has every chance to contribute to achieving a just peace," the NSDC Secretary said.

According to Lytvynenko, Ukraine needs not a truce for 2 years, but a lasting peace for decades that would make the development of the country possible.

"And this is a matter of security guarantees. Security agreements implementing last year's G7 statement are without the slightest doubt an important step. And we highly appreciate the efforts of President A. Stubb and the entire Finnish people, who know more than anyone the critical importance of security for Russia's neighbors. However, Ukraine needs guarantees, and the Finnish example clearly demonstrates that today there are only some real guarantees in Europe - this is NATO membership. That is why we hope to receive an invitation to the Alliance at this year's Washington NATO Summit," he added.

Negotiations with the Russian Federation

Earlier, the media reported that Western countries were preparing to convince Zelenskyy to agree to negotiations with the Russian Federation to end the war.

At the same time, the Russian dictator said that the Russian Federation was ready to participate in peace negotiations, but it was not invited to a conference in Switzerland.

comments: We are waiting for "betrayal" from rear and armored "patriots" - who are ready to fight to the last. (To the last - this is until the turn for mobilization comes to them... )

[mapuc]

This produce some questions

1. How far and with how much are NATO interested in helping Ukraine ?
2. How much must Ukraine give for a concrete peace with Russia ?
3. How much must Russia give for a concrete peace with Ukraine ?

Markus

[Skybird]

Security guarantees brought them where they now are.

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