US Politics Thread 2021-24

[August]

Rather than admit they were wrong the Biden Administration is dragging out the investigation while those officers are stuck behind a desk unable to do the jobs we are paying them to do.

Probe into Border Patrol agents still ongoing, 6 months after false ‘whipping’ claims

President Biden promised to make agents "pay"



The investigation into Border Patrol agents at the center of claims that they "whipped" Haitian migrants trying to illegally enter the United States is still ongoing, six months after the claims were made and quickly debunked.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pro...hipping-claims

[mapuc]

Sorry in advanced if I should have missed it.

In a twitter post, I read that they had found proof on John Bidens laptop that he had helped the Ukrainian building these secret biolabs

Every time I read stuff that smells like conspiracy my left toe start to itch. and manner did my left toe start to itch.

Markus

[Skybird]

Neue Zürcher Zeitung:


At the beginning of the Ukraine war, other politicians in the United States besides Trump were positive about Putin. In the meantime, they have become quiet, and the wind has changed among Republicans as well.

Even though the U.S. is farther removed from Ukraine than Switzerland is, the war is taking a prominent role in the American media - even in the smaller and local ones. The broad coverage and engaged commentary reflects a great deal of interest among the population. Presumably, the U.S. has not been as united as it is now during the Ukraine war for a long time. There have been some pro-Putin voices from the Republican camp, but they are fewer and quieter.


Putin, Selensky and Trump

The majority of politicians, as well as the public, are behind President Joe Biden. In a poll taken early in the war, 70 percent of Americans favored tough sanctions, even if they involve their own sacrifices, but opposed the involvement of their own military in the conflict. Calls for greater involvement, however, are growing louder. This refers primarily to the supply of weapons, but also to the question of a no-fly zone over Ukraine. Biden's poll numbers, which were very low at the beginning of the year, have risen somewhat. This is usually the case in wartime situations, but in this case it also has to do with the fact that Biden was able to forge a broad alliance against Moscow even before the first attacks.

Many Republicans, however, believe that Vladimir Putin would not have dared to attack another country during Trump's term in office. Trump himself regularly asserts the same. At the beginning of the war, he described Putin as clever and ingenious, while the Biden administration was weak. With the sanctions, America is only harming itself, he said.

The fact that Ukrainian President Volodimir Selensky is currently being hailed as a hero around the world now casts an even worse light on Trump's behavior in 2019, when he had demanded that the newly elected Selensky provide incriminating material about Biden's son Hunter in exchange for withholding arms shipments. The revelation of this alleged extortion led to the first impeachment proceedings against Trump.

Meanwhile, while Trump praises the Ukrainians' will to resist, not a critical word about Putin passes his lips, while at the same time emphasizing his supposedly tough stance toward the Russian president during his tenure.

Putin's useful idiots

Trump is getting some firing support from popular Fox News host Tucker Carlson, who said that Ukraine is not a democracy, but merely a puppet of America. Also speaking in Putin's favor - at least early in the war - was former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. "He is a very gifted statesman," he declared. "He was a KGB agent. He knows how to use power. We should respect that."

Republican Rep. Madison Cawthorn of North Carolina, the youngest member of Congress at age 26, posted a video March 10 saying, "Selenski is a crook. The Ukrainian government is incredibly corrupt, incredibly evil, and promotes 'woke' ideologies." The statements by Carlson, Pompeo, and Cawthorn are gratefully received and reproduced by Russian media.

Congressmen Matt Gaetz of Florida and Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia also expressed positive views of Putin until recently. In the meantime, Taylor Greene has changed her position somewhat. She is against any aid to Ukraine because it only prolongs the war and thus the suffering. Moreover, she believes that independent Ukraine exists only because of Barack Obama. Or, to be more precise: because with his help the former government in Kiev was overthrown. Moreover, Biden is so involved in Ukraine only because of his son Hunter's business there.

Lauren Boebert, Congresswoman from Colorado, formulated a particularly absurd analogy on the occasion of the Russian invasion. Alluding to trucker protests against Corona measures in Canada, she said, "We have neighbors to the north who should be liberated, too." She thus portrayed Canada as a repressive country that would have to be liberated by occupation - like Ukraine, which Putin wants to "denazify."

"There is no room in this party for Putin apologists".

However, these are minority positions. There is a sense of relief across all parties that at this delicate moment, when a carelessness could lead to a nuclear escalation, the unpredictable Trump is no longer in power, but the level-headed Biden with his rich foreign policy experience. A sample of the spirit that would blow under Trump was given by the latter during a recent speech in New Orleans. He expressed the idea that American planes disguised with Chinese flags could be sent to bomb Russia. "Then they start fighting each other, and we sit back and watch."

Some analysts question whether the current front against Putin could also herald the end of its admirers like Trump. However, the fact that many Republicans are now also marking some distance toward Trump has less to do with moral principles than with opportunism. One example is the maneuvering of Trump's former Vice President Mike Pence. On March 4, at a Republican event, he said, "There's no room in this party for Putin apologists." That, of course, was aimed at Trump.

But just four days later, he opined in a Fox News interview, "Our time in office was the only time in the 21st century during which Putin didn't try to seize land and change borders by force - because he saw America's strength." Pence's team funded a commercial falsely claiming Biden's decision to stop the Keystone XL pipeline led to greater dependence on Russian oil and gas, giving Russia the green light to attack Ukraine. Pence apparently wants to position himself as a candidate for the election in two years. To do so, he must distance himself from Trump on the one hand, but at the same time he does not want to antagonize him.

If Putin's brutal war were to cause a lasting change in the wind and the Republican base were increasingly offended by Trump's admiration for autocrats, most of the party's politicians would probably also quickly drop the former president.

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[August]

(From Skybirds daily anti-Trump propaganda poast:


"The people are behind Biden".




Yeah almost 42%

[Buddahaid]

Donald Trump's 6 January call logs show seven-hour gap

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60799663


"This runs counter to accounts from several Republican members of Congress - including House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy and Senators Mike Lee of Utah and Tommy Tuberville of Alabama - that they spoke with the president by phone that afternoon."

Why do I find this unsurprising?

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Donald Trump's 6 January call logs show seven-hour gap

Worry not. Those seven hours are safely contained on Hunter Biden's laptop.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Donald Trump's 6 January call logs show seven-hour gap

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60799663


"This runs counter to accounts from several Republican members of Congress - including House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy and Senators Mike Lee of Utah and Tommy Tuberville of Alabama - that they spoke with the president by phone that afternoon."

Why do I find this unsurprising?

There were two thing I found interesting in the article

First

It could be an indication that the president was communicating through unofficial channels, such as an aide's device or an undisclosed "burner" personal mobile phone.

If he has used his private mobile phone then the question must be...WHY??

Second

The gap may raise concerns that records of presidential contacts during key moments - as US Capitol police were in a melee with Trump supporters and Secret Service officers were evacuating Mr Pence from the Senate chamber - have been withheld or destroyed. If so, it could prompt accusations of a cover-up reminiscent of the one revealed in the 1973 Watergate investigation, when Oval Office audio recordings provided to congressional investigators contained 18-and-a-half minutes of missing audio.

If this should be the case, what can they do-He's not POTUS anymore. Or can they prosecute him in a civilian court ?

Markus

[August]

Originally Posted by mapuc

If this should be the case, what can they do-He's not POTUS anymore. Or can they prosecute him in a civilian court ?

Markus

Markus this is all about keeping him from making another run for the White House. They are worried he might win now that the shine is off the Biden apple so to speak.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by August

Markus this is all about keeping him from making another run for the White House. They are worried he might win now that the shine is off the Biden apple so to speak.

There is that, but there is also the stigma of what looks like an attempted self coup. Why so much effort to keep the commitee from finding out?

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by August

Markus this is all about keeping him from making another run for the White House. They are worried he might win now that the shine is off the Biden apple so to speak.

We all have our convincing belief. I don't know any of your authorities I can however say-they don't care who runs for President-They only care that this person does it legally and haven't commit severe crime.
(I wanna believe that a person who has commit a severe crime can't become a President)

Markus

[Otto Harkaman]

Well looks like the FBI has lost Hunter Biden's laptop hard drive.

[August]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

There is that, but there is also the stigma of what looks like an attempted self coup. Why so much effort to keep the commitee from finding out?

Because it's staffed by the same Democrat witch hunters who tried use false accusations, liars and anonymous witnesses to drive him out of politics twice already. I wouldn't cooperate with those flaming *******s either. Not one little bit.

Meanwhile people who are not charged with anything more than trespassing or disturbing the peace remain in jail without trial well over year later. Is the plan to keep those poor souls locked up in solitary confinement forever, or maybe until they crack and agree to sign prepared confessions implicating Trump?

I mean that's certainly what it looks like to me.

[Onkel Neal]

oh boy, now CNN is covering it.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/30/polit...-up/index.html

Biden has tried to turn a page, publishing a memoir and debuting his work as an artist with shows in Los Angeles and New York. But even apparent attempts to avoid controversy have backfired. The White House acknowledged it played a role in the arts sales, setting up a legal process to shield the identity of buyers of Hunter Biden pieces, for the stated purpose of ensuring that no one could curry favor with the President by buying his son's art. But critics noted that art sales and anonymity of buyers have long raised concerns about money laundering.

Sheesh, can't we Americans ditch these corrupt politicians?

[mapuc]

Now even CNN is covering it-For me it sounds like..if we don't write about it, it didn't happened.

Markus

[August]

Originally Posted by mapuc

We all have our convincing belief. I don't know any of your authorities I can however say-they don't care who runs for President-They only care that this person does it legally and haven't commit severe crime.

Markus

You can say what you want Markus but that definitely is what this is all about, same as the previous two impeachment attempts. Partisan driven witch hunts based on lies and falsehoods to eliminate a political rival.
Now they are attempting to turn what is at best a riot into some huge conspiracy. Meanwhile hundreds of people rot in jail without trial on minor charges over a year later.

As for a candidate having a criminal record that should make absolutely no difference. What what business is it of the government to deny the peoples right to choose their own representatives? This isn't government by the Pre-Approved.