Gunman kills 19 children, 2 adults in Texas grade school

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

It isn’t always more regulations, government control, and laws. IMO it’s pretty obvious we have enough of them already. If people are having trouble discerning between right and wrong and have a complete disregard for human life. Then I think something else is seriously amiss.

I can see one regulation you need to adapt-Change the age of when a person can buy a gun from 18 to 21-Some type of guns you can be 18 years old to buy.
Another regulation you also need to adapt is the psychological test.

Markus

[Rockstar]

Admittedly an increase in the age limit may prove somewhat helpful under certain circumstances for certain firearms, MAYBE. But then it does not stop or reduce the uptick in violence and the lack of compassion and respect for life.

TEXAS shooter Salvador Ramos may have revealed his chilling plans to kill children in a callous school shooting online after LOSING at the violent video game Dead by Daylight, a gamer claimed.

https://www.the-sun.com/news/5420488...os-video-game/

[Onkel Neal]

I would be fine if we raise the age to legally buy, own, or handle firearms to 30. No exceptions.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

I didn’t say Russia was responsible for school shooting’s in the U.S. What I’m saying is Putin is responsible for the murder of children in Ukraine and all of Europe is responsible for selling him the dual-purpose and weapon systems that helped him do it.

No background checks no red flags?

Belongs entirely into the Ukraine threat, has nothing to do with this one.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

I would be fine if we raise the age to legally buy, own, or handle firearms to 30. No exceptions.

The minimum age for buying smokes and booze is now 21 country wide and I think for good reason.

Lord knows we got more so called comprehensive checks & laws coming out our ears already. But unlike yesteryear, I think some children today spend a lot of time alone, playing violent video games and talking smack at each other on social media while hiding behind a computer screen in their mother’s basement. Maybe the necessity for real life experience is required before they can purchase a firearm too. Upping the age may be step in the right direction.

But then it still doesn’t solve the uptick in violence and IMO easily remedied causes either. Hell look at our party officials being confrontational, screaming and pointing fingers at each other. Calling the other baby killers and telling another to f-off on social media and public media. Ya more laws is what’s needed

Of course the next argument on behalf of the 18 year old to come along will be, if he’s old enough to be issued a gun fight our wars, he’s old enough to buy one.

[Sean C]

Apparently there is an active mass shooting event in Marion County, West Virginia right now. Not sure of the circumstances/details yet.

Link to Marion County Sheriff/EMS and Fairmont Police and Fire scanner feed.

*EDIT: This turned out to be a shootout with the police.*

[MaDef]

You kids forget, smoking and alcohol use are not in the constitution, The right to bear arms however is a right guaranteed by the constitution. You all need to figure out the difference between a right and a privilege before you start posting some of these "ideas".

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by MaDef

You kids forget, smoking and alcohol use are not in the constitution, The right to bear arms however is a right guaranteed by the constitution. You all need to figure out the difference between a right and a privilege before you start posting some of these "ideas".

Good point

[Skybird]

Any constitution is a product of its time and that time's circumstances. It alrready starts with that it is written in the language and typical phrasing that was spoken at that time, and that in the present might be considered "old-fashioned".



Nothing last forever, nothing stays unchanged.



Get the dust off it. The royal red coats are gone since long, no more Indians assault white farmers.

[Cybermat47]

Originally Posted by MaDef

You kids forget, smoking and alcohol use are not in the constitution, The right to bear arms however is a right guaranteed by the constitution. You all need to figure out the difference between a right and a privilege before you start posting some of these "ideas".

Doesn’t the 2nd Amendment say something about ‘well-regulated militias’?

I don’t know, a mentally ill teenager who wants to murder little kids doesn’t sound ‘well-regulated’ to me.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

Doesn’t the 2nd Amendment say something about ‘well-regulated militias’?

I don’t know, a mentally ill teenager who wants to murder little kids doesn’t sound ‘well-regulated’ to me.

Exactly. That opens the whole subject up to gun control laws.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Any constitution is a product of its time and that time's circumstances. It alrready starts with that it is written in the language and typical phrasing that was spoken at that time, and that in the present might be considered "old-fashioned".



Nothing last forever, nothing stays unchanged.



Get the dust off it. The royal red coats are gone since long, no more Indians assault white farmers.

1- The House and Senate must vote a two thirds majority for an amendment to be drafted.

2- Two thirds of the states may vote for a Constitutional Convention where an amendment can be drafted.

Also, nothing in the constitution says anything about a right to purchase firearms or anything about age or maturity levels. I think it safe to say you can possess them but you may not be able to buy one until a certain age similar to handguns.

[Commander Wallace]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

and again: there does appear to be an uptick in violence not just in the United States. Why? Some studies suggest media violence does have an affect on the population. Guns have been around a lot longer than the uptick in violence. The firearm is not the reason for the uptick in violence nor will removing them solve the problem of the growth of violent people.



I didn’t say I wanted too, I said: “I agree it should be regulated by parents” but then went on to say crap hours, minimum wage and scrambling to make ends meet can make that difficult to do which then leaves child to his own devices.

Furthermore we’re not zombies, not everyone is wired the same. Just look at Subsim, how many people tired of the things said here, got up and left never to be heard from again. Maybe they went hunting, started a garden, wrote a book, built a boat or went sailing, spent more time with family, got a better job, took up an outdoor hobby or travelled. There are other things to do besides counting how many thumbs up you get or gossip.



I agree though I think it is about hindsight, because there is no law or background check in the world that can reveal the future. Even questions regarding red flags I think can only be addressed by those closest to the killer after the fact. Other than that what people want I think is akin to the movie ‘Minority Report’

Since apparently you know everything, why don't you solve it. Perhaps run for office since you have it all figured out.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Commander Wallace

Since apparently you know everything, why don't you solve it. Perhaps run for office since you have it all figured out.

If you had read further I admitted that just like you and everyone else here I don’t have all the answers. But I’m not inclined to abandon the second amendment or create more redundant laws because someone didn’t have a daddy to teach him the difference between good and evil.

[Commander Wallace]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

You have read further because I admitted that just like you everyone else here I don’t have all the answers.

Yes you did and then posted repeatedly as though you have it all figured it out. So, in your infinite wisdom, how would you address these issues ? I mean, you know more than we do. Apparently.