Tribute to Abraham: Eternal Patrol - Page 7

Jimbuna · 10-12-07, 12:41 PM

The circumstances certainly appear to be as suspicious as anything I have ever read or come across :hmm:

RickC Sniper · 10-12-07, 01:37 PM

A sad and tragic loss.

I have no desire to play detective.

Takeda Shingen · 10-12-07, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RickC Sniper

A sad and tragic loss.

I have no desire to play detective.

Agreed.

Fish · 10-12-07, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RickC Sniper

A sad and tragic loss.

I have no desire to play detective.

Right, let us remember him as WE know him.

Romulus · 10-12-07, 06:34 PM

I seldom post here, but such a death is always a tragedy,by all accounts he was a very well respected member ofthe Subsim community......

Why not name this forum after him, if it's too late for the Almanac?

Skybird · 10-12-07, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Romulus

I seldom post here, but such a death is always a tragedy,by all accounts he was a very well respected member ofthe Subsim community......

Why not name this forum after him, if it's too late for the Almanac?

Because we can safely assume that in a place with 17000+ members there are many other courageous people as well, even if they remain a much lower profile than Abraham did - but we only have so many forums, but not more.

I have the impression of Abraham that he wouldn't have liked it. A mind as light and open to the world as his should not be enforced into heavy stone of monuments.

"Why can angels fly? Because they take themselves easy!"

Onkel Neal · 10-12-07, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish

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Originally Posted by RickC Sniper

A sad and tragic loss.

I have no desire to play detective.

Right, let us remember him as WE know him.

Well said. I wish he was still here, it would be nice to hear from him.

Torplexed · 10-12-07, 10:38 PM

Audieu Abraham. For some reason the poem from the frontspiece of Iron Coffins comes to mind.

Must be the hat.

Flick · 10-13-07, 07:15 AM

R.I.P. Abraham

Perseus · 10-13-07, 11:36 AM

Didn't know him. Do know some people around him, though. And while it is always wise never to speak ill of the dead, he should have known better than to further his acquintance with certain people in the Amsterdam real estate underworld.

Although unrelated to his death, apparently, it isn't wise to keep meeting certain people when others have warned you many a times not to. At one point he went too deep, too far, and before he knew it, like so many he found that he was stuck in the mud. And so be became a crown witness.

He died while taking a warm bath, having taken MDMA and drinking wine. Alcohol makes blood move faster, and being submerged in warm water only makes the blood flow even fast as it moves the veins close to the skin more.

The exact cause of death is still not clear - MDMA overdose due to the MDMA arriving approximately twice as fast in the brain due to circumstances described above - or from drowning after passing out. No one knows. The woman who called the police is still in custody, on unclear grounds.

10-13-07, 12:08 PM

I'm not a regular here but I drift in now and then, never new Abraham but it's a real tragic loss to hear of this horrible news

Such a tragic way to go, I hope the person responsible is brought to justice

RIP Abraham

Kongo Otto · 10-13-07, 12:55 PM

A guy who has the guts to stand against a major Mobster like Holleeder,always earns my respect. RIP Abraham.

btw.
isn´t Holleeder the major XTC dealer in the Netherlands.Just a simple thought.
I hope this bastard gets what he deserves,but he was sentenced to a 12 year term for the 1983 kidnapping of Freddie Heineken, and he was just 5 years in jail.
NL justice system sucks.

Fish · 10-13-07, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kongo Otto

btw.
isn´t Holleeder the major XTC dealer in the Netherlands.

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This is Willem Holleder.

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Grenade Attack on Courthouse Fails to Halt ‘Trial of the Century’
2 April 2007

Two grenades were fired at 3.00 yesterday morning at the high-security courthouse in Amsterdam-Osdorp, nicknamed ‘the Bunker’. No-one was hurt, but considerable damage was caused.(cont.)

The assumption is that the attack was intended to delay the trial of Willem Holleder, a major figure in the Amsterdam criminal world, who was sentenced to 11 years imprisonment in 1987 for his part in the abduction of beer baron Freddy Heineken. The trial was transferred to the Palace of Justice in the Parnassusweg, Amsterdam, and began yesterday afternoon behind closed doors. Holleeder is accused of extortion, assault and membership of criminal organisations. An investigation is also currently looking into Holleeder’s possible connection with a number of liquidations on the criminal scene in the last few years. Prominent criminal lawyer, Bram Moskowitz, who has represented Holleeder’s interests for more than 20 years, has withdrawn from the defence.

http://www.thehagueonline.com/articl...ive=0&category=

caspofungin · 10-13-07, 04:47 PM

just checked in after a few days away -- i'm speechless. rip, abraham, i'm sorry i never met you in the flesh.

Kptlt. Neuerburg · 10-14-07, 12:59 AM

Ich hatt einen kameraden. Wir alles had ein kamerad."The ships destory us above, and ensnare us beneath. We arise, we lie down, we move in the belly of Death." Rudyard Kipling. Personaly I did not know Abraham, but most of us here did. We must remember what he was, not what he is. Rest in Peace Abraham. Abraham we hardly knew ye.

10-12-07, 12:41 PM	#91
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 180,962 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	The circumstances certainly appear to be as suspicious as anything I have ever read or come across :hmm: __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

10-12-07, 01:37 PM	#92
RickC Sniper Undetectable Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,221 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	A sad and tragic loss. I have no desire to play detective. __________________ Support Subsim http://www.subsim.com/store.html

10-12-07, 10:38 PM	#98
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Audieu Abraham. For some reason the poem from the frontspiece of Iron Coffins comes to mind. Must be the hat. __________________ --Mobilis in Mobili--

10-14-07, 12:59 AM	#105
Kptlt. Neuerburg Admiral Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,244 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	Ich hatt einen kameraden. Wir alles had ein kamerad."The ships destory us above, and ensnare us beneath. We arise, we lie down, we move in the belly of Death." Rudyard Kipling. Personaly I did not know Abraham, but most of us here did. We must remember what he was, not what he is. Rest in Peace Abraham. Abraham we hardly knew ye. __________________ "When you're born into this world, you're given a ticket to the freak show. If you're born in America you get a front row seat." - George Carlin

10-12-07, 06:34 PM	#95
Romulus Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Iraq Posts: 5 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	I seldom post here, but such a death is always a tragedy,by all accounts he was a very well respected member ofthe Subsim community...... Why not name this forum after him, if it's too late for the Almanac?

10-13-07, 07:15 AM	#99
Flick Sparky Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ottawa Canada Posts: 157 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	R.I.P. Abraham

10-13-07, 11:36 AM	#100
Perseus Mate Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 57 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Didn't know him. Do know some people around him, though. And while it is always wise never to speak ill of the dead, he should have known better than to further his acquintance with certain people in the Amsterdam real estate underworld. Although unrelated to his death, apparently, it isn't wise to keep meeting certain people when others have warned you many a times not to. At one point he went too deep, too far, and before he knew it, like so many he found that he was stuck in the mud. And so be became a crown witness. He died while taking a warm bath, having taken MDMA and drinking wine. Alcohol makes blood move faster, and being submerged in warm water only makes the blood flow even fast as it moves the veins close to the skin more. The exact cause of death is still not clear - MDMA overdose due to the MDMA arriving approximately twice as fast in the brain due to circumstances described above - or from drowning after passing out. No one knows. The woman who called the police is still in custody, on unclear grounds.

10-13-07, 12:08 PM	#101
Goose_green Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I'm not a regular here but I drift in now and then, never new Abraham but it's a real tragic loss to hear of this horrible news Such a tragic way to go, I hope the person responsible is brought to justice RIP Abraham

10-13-07, 12:55 PM	#102
Kongo Otto Commodore Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Augsburg / Germany Posts: 631 Downloads: 203 Uploads: 0	A guy who has the guts to stand against a major Mobster like Holleeder,always earns my respect. RIP Abraham. btw. isn´t Holleeder the major XTC dealer in the Netherlands.Just a simple thought. I hope this bastard gets what he deserves,but he was sentenced to a 12 year term for the 1983 kidnapping of Freddie Heineken, and he was just 5 years in jail. NL justice system sucks.

10-13-07, 04:47 PM	#104
caspofungin Commander Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 459 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	just checked in after a few days away -- i'm speechless. rip, abraham, i'm sorry i never met you in the flesh.