US Politics Thread 2021-24 - Page 439

mapuc · 09-15-23, 05:20 PM

Have an another question for you my American friends.

Let me start with some examples from Denmark.

We have Impeachment even here in our Parliament called Rigsret(=National court)

Mostly a Minister get a næse(=nose) Which is a warning.

Do you have similar in US political system, where a Minister/President have done something wrong, but not so severe that it lead to an Impeachment.. Instead this person gets a warning ?

Markus

ET2SN · 09-15-23, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc

Have an another question for you my American friends.

Let me start with some examples from Denmark.

We have Impeachment even here in our Parliament called Rigsret(=National court)

Mostly a Minister get a næse(=nose) Which is a warning.

Do you have similar in US political system, where a Minister/President have done something wrong, but not so severe that it lead to an Impeachment.. Instead this person gets a warning ?

Markus

Mostly, they can lose their committee assignments in government and/or get disbarred from practicing law.
Meaning, they become a politician in name only with no power behind it.

Meanwhile, Angry Joe says he won't pardon his son if he gets convicted.
So, to the trolls, spin that..

mapuc · 09-15-23, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ET2SN

Mostly, they can lose their committee assignments in government and/or get disbarred from practicing law.
Meaning, they become a politician in name only with no power behind it.

Meanwhile, Angry Joe says he won't pardon his son if he gets convicted.
So, to the trolls, spin that..

Thank you

Here a Minister can continue after they have been warned-Mostly they step down after getting a nose.

Markus

August · 09-15-23, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc

Have an another question for you my American friends.

Let me start with some examples from Denmark.

We have Impeachment even here in our Parliament called Rigsret(=National court)

Mostly a Minister get a næse(=nose) Which is a warning.

Do you have similar in US political system, where a Minister/President have done something wrong, but not so severe that it lead to an Impeachment.. Instead this person gets a warning ?

Markus

In the US congress they call it "Censure".

mapuc · 09-15-23, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by August

In the US congress they call it "Censure".

Thank you Dave.

Made a search for this word and found this interesting wiki info about Censure

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censure

Markus

ET2SN · 09-15-23, 05:57 PM

Right, they can still hold office because they were elected by actual voters.
They can still vote on bills, but they can't sell their own bills or add anything or hold any real power.

One of the keys to a Federalist system, the people who rise to high power have a LOT to lose if they screw up.

August · 09-15-23, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc

Thank you Dave.

Made a search for this word and found this interesting wiki info about Censure

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censure

Markus

Jeff-Groves · 09-16-23, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

And the 14th Amendment, Section 3 still doesn't require a conviction or send anyone to jail.

Well then. By that thinking and belief? One could make the argument that the Democratic Party engaged in a Coup by cheating in the last election.
You've already said no trial or actual proof is needed.

Here's another thought. If Hunter is guilty of crimes and Daddy Joe had knowledge of that? Accessory after the fact comes into play doesn't it?

AVGWarhawk · 09-16-23, 04:07 PM

Political witch hunts. Deep state. Favoritism. Nepotism. All a reality on Capitol Hill and Pennsylvania Ave. These people are the untouchables. Unless of course they want someone to be touched. Usually, an individual that will expose them. But take whatever Fox or CNN feeds you. It is all for dollars and nothing more. They do not care about the little guy. They do not care about your future. They simply care about a vote. College loan forgiveness. Are you kidding me? It is for votes. The reality of government. It is a business with 435 CEO plus two additional CEO looking working towards their yearend bonus.

BTW, 401K and retirement plans, it's all a fricken scam. We take all of the risk. The government takes zero risk. Your employer takes zero risk. The stock market is a crapshoot. Under Biden, the past 3 years the market has been a stagnate cesspool. Go for the long-haul in the market I'm told. Sadly, you and I have so many days to work and save for retirement. And to add, in 5 years SS will only be able to pay 80% of what a retiree is due from SS. Yep, smoke and mirrors. Every politician kicks the can down the road. But hey, their retirement and healthcare plan are golden.

Vote who you want. It amounts to nothing but a hill of beans.

Jeff-Groves · 09-16-23, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

a hill of beans.

You being Optimistic again, Right?

I mean, you ACTUALLY think they'll let us have a hill of beans?

Rockstar · 09-16-23, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

You being Optimistic again, Right?

I mean, you ACTUALLY think they'll let us have a hill of beans?

Yes, but only after years of environmental impact studies and litigation to determine how many beans you’re allowed. Then they’ll set-up a tax schedule to take most of the beans back and give them to someone else.

Jeff-Groves · 09-16-23, 05:37 PM

Oh. I guess part of the studies and the information learned will prove there was never a hill of beans they could assign a quantitative amount to/or of.
Thus I may have imagened a hill much larger then My Over Lords.

em2nought · 09-16-23, 07:46 PM

Biden is about to give the hill of beans that we'll never see to Zelenskyy with what I'm sure is a very nice kickback for "The Big Guy".

Buddahaid · 09-16-23, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

Well then. By that thinking and belief? One could make the argument that the Democratic Party engaged in a Coup by cheating in the last election.
You've already said no trial or actual proof is needed.

Here's another thought. If Hunter is guilty of crimes and Daddy Joe had knowledge of that? Accessory after the fact comes into play doesn't it?

I'm still waiting for the 14th Amendment, Section Three counter argument. All I'm hearing is crickets.

em2nought · 09-16-23, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

One could make the argument that the Democratic Party engaged in a Coup by cheating in the last election.

This is exactly what I believe. I'd imagine at least 40 million US taxpayers believe it too.

09-15-23, 05:20 PM	#6571
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,917 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Have an another question for you my American friends. Let me start with some examples from Denmark. We have Impeachment even here in our Parliament called Rigsret(=National court) Mostly a Minister get a næse(=nose) Which is a warning. Do you have similar in US political system, where a Minister/President have done something wrong, but not so severe that it lead to an Impeachment.. Instead this person gets a warning ? Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

09-16-23, 04:07 PM	#6579
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 27,343 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Political witch hunts. Deep state. Favoritism. Nepotism. All a reality on Capitol Hill and Pennsylvania Ave. These people are the untouchables. Unless of course they want someone to be touched. Usually, an individual that will expose them. But take whatever Fox or CNN feeds you. It is all for dollars and nothing more. They do not care about the little guy. They do not care about your future. They simply care about a vote. College loan forgiveness. Are you kidding me? It is for votes. The reality of government. It is a business with 435 CEO plus two additional CEO looking working towards their yearend bonus. BTW, 401K and retirement plans, it's all a fricken scam. We take all of the risk. The government takes zero risk. Your employer takes zero risk. The stock market is a crapshoot. Under Biden, the past 3 years the market has been a stagnate cesspool. Go for the long-haul in the market I'm told. Sadly, you and I have so many days to work and save for retirement. And to add, in 5 years SS will only be able to pay 80% of what a retiree is due from SS. Yep, smoke and mirrors. Every politician kicks the can down the road. But hey, their retirement and healthcare plan are golden. Vote who you want. It amounts to nothing but a hill of beans. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

09-16-23, 05:37 PM	#6582
Jeff-Groves Village Idiot Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,320 Downloads: 130 Uploads: 0	Oh. I guess part of the studies and the information learned will prove there was never a hill of beans they could assign a quantitative amount to/or of. Thus I may have imagened a hill much larger then My Over Lords. __________________ I don't do Stupid. So don't ask.

09-16-23, 07:46 PM	#6583
em2nought Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,278 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Biden is about to give the hill of beans that we'll never see to Zelenskyy with what I'm sure is a very nice kickback for "The Big Guy". __________________ Looks like we need a Lemon Law for Presidents now! DNC sold us a dud, and they knew it.

09-15-23, 05:57 PM	#6576
ET2SN ET2/SS Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 2,520 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 0	Right, they can still hold office because they were elected by actual voters. They can still vote on bills, but they can't sell their own bills or add anything or hold any real power. One of the keys to a Federalist system, the people who rise to high power have a LOT to lose if they screw up.