"McCain for President" advertisements

castorp345 · 04-20-08, 07:12 PM

y'know, I understand the need for SubSim to use advertisments to generate revenue to maintain the site. np. just fine.

but do they have to be political?

personally, i'm a little put-off by having this sort of political bias "in my face" (as it were) everytime i want to read my favorite forums.

it's bad enough that the mainstream media is so overcooked with this, albeit watershed, election... but does it have to seep into my hobby too??

i've got no beef with anyone's personal political views--it is a free country after all--but i'd really prefer to not have to endure the endorsement of any of the candidates as "punishment" for my taking an interest in the subsim genre. (ie it's not just McCain's ads here i'm taking issue with, but would equally be bothered by those of Billery or Barack Bin Laden.)

i realize of course that the "powers that be" here at subsim are going to do as they see fit in this regard and, i suppose, in the final analysis it really is a trivial issue, but i'd still like to register my complaint and protest against this sort of gratuitous politicization in a space where, imho, it has no relevance, bearing, or "useful" purpose other than to annoy.

[/rant]

cheers
hc

CCIP · 04-20-08, 07:44 PM

Just curious - where did you see them? I'm sure not seeing any of these, so it must be coming from google ads or the like throwing them at the target audience. :hmm:

castorp345 · 04-20-08, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCIP

Just curious - where did you see them? I'm sure not seeing any of these, so it must be coming from google ads or the like throwing them at the target audience. :hmm:

the one i'm looking at now is to the right of the subsim logo at the top of the page and above the shells of fury ad.

CCIP · 04-21-08, 12:11 AM

Ok, yea, blame google for sure then. I see an ad for direct2drive sales of SH4 and a "play simulation games" link.

I'm sure Neal can do something about this though. I agree, it's in poor taste for the purposes of this site.

Kapitan_Phillips · 04-21-08, 04:24 AM

Frau_Phillips has a problem with that too, but I was trying to explain to her that those advertisements change based on the content of the page you are viewing. If you open a thread about say, Obama and Clinton, you'll get Obama and Clinton advertisements. If its a thread about Timbuktu, you'll get an ad for cheap airfares to Timbuktu.

Subsim isnt about promoting one view or the other, so I shouldnt worry too much about it.

castorp345 · 04-21-08, 07:04 AM

thanks for the responses, guys.

i'm indeed heartened to know that this isn't something intended by subsim and that the prevailing spirit of the hobby here is still one divorced from politics.

(well... real-world politics at any rate... "modder politics" is another matter as you gentlemen, i'm sure, know all too well in having to moderate some of our oh-so-lively discussions around here... at least there are no banner ads for some of the "competing" mod package "positions"... yet... )

thanks again and cheers
hc

Stealth Hunter · 04-22-08, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips

Frau_Phillips has a problem with that too, but I was trying to explain to her that those advertisements change based on the content of the page you are viewing. If you open a thread about say, Obama and Clinton, you'll get Obama and Clinton advertisements. If its a thread about Timbuktu, you'll get an ad for cheap airfares to Timbuktu.

Subsim isnt about promoting one view or the other, so I shouldnt worry too much about it.

Why is it that after one month of viewing the site, the only ANIMATED ad on the site is for John McCain? Entering a thread about Obama or Clinton will bring up an ad... but it's not animated.

CDR Resser · 04-22-08, 09:35 PM

Frankly, I'm TIRED of seeing the ads period. I don't care where they are. This has been one of the most Shakespearian primary seasons in my memory "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing".
I come to subsim to get away from all that nonsense.

Respectfully Submitted;
CDR Resser

Kapitan_Phillips · 04-23-08, 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDR Resser

Frankly, I'm TIRED of seeing the ads period. I don't care where they are. This has been one of the most Shakespearian primary seasons in my memory "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing".
I come to subsim to get away from all that nonsense.

Respectfully Submitted;
CDR Resser

Well, if you're willing to pay a monthly fee to help keep the servers up, all the power to you

nikimcbee · 04-23-08, 10:58 AM

Well, look at the bright side, we could have a PBS style website. I personally love the ads for the arabic dating service.

Today's post was brought to you by the letter: U

AVGWarhawk · 04-23-08, 03:05 PM

Now that was the democratic way handle this issue......oh never mind......:rotfl:

STEED · 04-23-08, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

Well, look at the bright side, we could have a PBS style website. I personally love the ads for the arabic dating service.

You dirty old man.

Onkel Neal · 04-23-08, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by castorp345

personally, i'm a little put-off by having this sort of political bias "in my face" (as it were) everytime i want to read my favorite forums.

it's bad enough that the mainstream media is so overcooked with this, albeit watershed, election... but does it have to seep into my hobby too??

i realize of course that the "powers that be" here at subsim are going to do as they see fit in this regard and, i suppose, in the final analysis it really is a trivial issue, but i'd still like to register my complaint and protest against this sort of gratuitous politicization in a space where, imho, it has no relevance, bearing, or "useful" purpose other than to annoy.

[/rant]

cheers
hc

No bias here, the ads are served up randomly. We don't have anything to do with which ads appear.

Sailor Steve · 04-23-08, 09:14 PM

I guess people can be upset if they want. I've never even noticed the ads.

FIREWALL · 04-23-08, 09:48 PM

Did a test in SH4 mods forum and NO ads.

04-20-08, 07:12 PM	#1
castorp345 Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: People's Republic of Cambridge Posts: 379 Downloads: 118 Uploads: 0	"McCain for President" advertisements y'know, I understand the need for SubSim to use advertisments to generate revenue to maintain the site. np. just fine. but do they have to be political? personally, i'm a little put-off by having this sort of political bias "in my face" (as it were) everytime i want to read my favorite forums. it's bad enough that the mainstream media is so overcooked with this, albeit watershed, election... but does it have to seep into my hobby too?? i've got no beef with anyone's personal political views--it is a free country after all--but i'd really prefer to not have to endure the endorsement of any of the candidates as "punishment" for my taking an interest in the subsim genre. (ie it's not just McCain's ads here i'm taking issue with, but would equally be bothered by those of Billery or Barack Bin Laden.) i realize of course that the "powers that be" here at subsim are going to do as they see fit in this regard and, i suppose, in the final analysis it really is a trivial issue, but i'd still like to register my complaint and protest against this sort of gratuitous politicization in a space where, imho, it has no relevance, bearing, or "useful" purpose other than to annoy. [/rant] cheers hc __________________ my diminutive mod contributions new chronometer thermalizer Japanese wartime radio pack Japanese traditional radio pack new radio new ordnance what color is your torped o aye, sir! sound mod Last edited by castorp345; 04-20-08 at 09:30 PM.

04-20-08, 07:44 PM	#2
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Just curious - where did you see them? I'm sure not seeing any of these, so it must be coming from google ads or the like throwing them at the target audience. :hmm: __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

04-21-08, 12:11 AM	#4
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Ok, yea, blame google for sure then. I see an ad for direct2drive sales of SH4 and a "play simulation games" link. I'm sure Neal can do something about this though. I agree, it's in poor taste for the purposes of this site. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

04-21-08, 04:24 AM	#5
Kapitan_Phillips Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swansea Posts: 3,902 Downloads: 202 Uploads: 0	Frau_Phillips has a problem with that too, but I was trying to explain to her that those advertisements change based on the content of the page you are viewing. If you open a thread about say, Obama and Clinton, you'll get Obama and Clinton advertisements. If its a thread about Timbuktu, you'll get an ad for cheap airfares to Timbuktu. Subsim isnt about promoting one view or the other, so I shouldnt worry too much about it. __________________ Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into.

04-21-08, 07:04 AM	#6
castorp345 Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: People's Republic of Cambridge Posts: 379 Downloads: 118 Uploads: 0	thanks for the responses, guys. i'm indeed heartened to know that this isn't something intended by subsim and that the prevailing spirit of the hobby here is still one divorced from politics. (well... real-world politics at any rate... "modder politics" is another matter as you gentlemen, i'm sure, know all too well in having to moderate some of our oh-so-lively discussions around here... at least there are no banner ads for some of the "competing" mod package "positions"... yet... ) thanks again and cheers hc __________________ my diminutive mod contributions new chronometer thermalizer Japanese wartime radio pack Japanese traditional radio pack new radio new ordnance what color is your torped o aye, sir! sound mod

04-22-08, 09:35 PM	#8
CDR Resser Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Submerged ahead Posts: 252 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 0	Frankly, I'm TIRED of seeing the ads period. I don't care where they are. This has been one of the most Shakespearian primary seasons in my memory "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing". I come to subsim to get away from all that nonsense. Respectfully Submitted; CDR Resser __________________ Holy Equestrian Order of Saint John Moses Sometimes, in war, there is an inverse moral. The greater the performance, the harsher the consequence. R.H. O'Kane

04-23-08, 10:58 AM	#10
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,925 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Well, look at the bright side, we could have a PBS style website. I personally love the ads for the arabic dating service. Today's post was brought to you by the letter: U __________________

04-23-08, 03:05 PM	#11
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 27,343 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Now that was the democratic way handle this issue......oh never mind......:rotfl: __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

04-23-08, 09:14 PM	#14
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I guess people can be upset if they want. I've never even noticed the ads. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

04-23-08, 09:48 PM	#15
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Did a test in SH4 mods forum and NO ads. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???