Gun Control thread (merged many)

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

I know exactly what you meant by it.I was making fun of it.

Tried to anyways, you failed

I've finally figured it out - Bubblehead is in fact a Marxist mole planted on the forum to make the political right look stupid. Sadly, he's overdone it, and blown his cover. Better luck next time, comrade.

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Tried to anyways, you failed

In fact I succeeded.Are you even reading the posts on this page Your reply implies that you are not because everyone is either utterly disagreeing with you or poking fun at you.

Yes we all know about your pals that PM you saying how awesome you are.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

I've finally figured it out - Bubblehead is in fact a Marxist mole planted on the forum to make the political right look stupid. Sadly, he's overdone it, and blown his cover. Better luck next time, comrade.

Definitely, I think he and Yubba are in fact in employment of Obama. Because they're sure doing his work for him!

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Two minutes separate these posts.

That's what entertains me the most about him. You read what he wrote, and you wonder if he's just like a really, really self aware person with a projection issue.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

That's what entertains me the most about him. You read what he wrote, and you wonder if he's just like a really, really self aware person with a projection issue.

I love how mookie tries to be some pseudo intellectual. My remarks were unrelated to the Thatcher quote as I was not insulted anyone in particular, I was describing the average obama voter which could only explain how such a joke based on his lackluster performance and easily researched shady background, manages to get elect.Same way other tyrants get to power, the rely on the less informed, intelligent etc in the population to go for them.This is why the appeal to EMOTION on all issues, from the economy, taxes, guns to everything, they never use facts etc The tired but useful "rich man with his foot on your neck" "white man keeping you down" etc etc . There are a lot of left wing types on here who hate that I won't back down and call them out.Some don't like my tone, they have some hang up about "civillity" on here.

Say what you want, give me a real argument against what I have said here, and we can discuss. On this issue, you can't, the second amendment is clear, the heller decision backs up what I am saying(perhaps not on registration etc specifically) and people with their heads on right, who value their individual rights and constitutional/natural right to self defense agree as well.Please try and avoid your insult and insinuations, show me I am wrong Mookie, please , please TRY. You can't. Everytime I see your name I think of The idiot spike lee played(which is not a stretch for him) in the movie "Do The Right Thing", but that is a different story and getting dangerously close to getting personal. Back on subject.Please, oh please, tell me A. How I am wrong on this.

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"

That is what the Second Amendment says, clear, plain, and simple. The second amendment says the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall NOT be infringed.Yes, it mentions militia but if you do some reading, you will find the founders also sought to facilitate the natural right of self preservation/defense, especially against tyranny, which they had lived under.They knew the nature of man, the nature of government, was to seek more and more power over time and diminish liberty.That is the spirit and purpose behind the second amendment and whole bill of rights, that is spelled out rather clearly in the above quoted line! To keep government at bay and protect the Republic.Sure, they could not imagine we would have such weaponry but they did not mention muskets or cannon etc because they knew things would advance and citizens should have proper weapons to guard against tyranny and protect one's life, liberty, and property.

The Heller decision says there is a "pre-existing right codified" in the Second Amendment which "protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home" Cruikshank was wrong and does not apply thanks to Heller, period.Quoting that decision, is a waste of time.

Quoting gun laws in Finland is absurd, they DO NOT apply, Finland is not the US, it has no value, no basis here in the US, the end.

Well all you managed to accomplish was repeat the same thing for the millionth time, missing the entire point of why I had quoted Cruikshank and that I had obviously quoted Finnish gun laws because of their relevance to anything related to the 2nd Amendment. No wait that's right I used them as an example for something you probably didn't bother reading.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Kptlt. Hellmut Neuerburg

Well all you managed to accomplish was repeat the same thing for the millionth time, missing the entire point of why I had quoted Cruikshank and that I had obviously quoted Finnish gun laws because of their relevance to anything related to the 2nd Amendment. No wait that's right I used them as an example for something you probably didn't bother reading.

Cruikshank does not apply.See HELLER.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

I love how mookie tries to be some pseudo intellectual. My remarks were unrelated to the Thatcher quote as I was not insulted anyone in particular, I was describing the average obama voter which could only explain how such a joke based on his lackluster performance and easily researched shady background, manages to get elect.Same way other tyrants get to power, the rely on the less informed, intelligent etc in the population to go for them.This is why the appeal to EMOTION on all issues, from the economy, taxes, guns to everything, they never use facts etc The tired but useful "rich man with his foot on your neck" "white man keeping you down" etc etc . There are a lot of left wing types on here who hate that I won't back down and call them out.Some don't like my tone, they have some hang up about "civillity" on here.

Say what you want, give me a real argument against what I have said here, and we can discuss. On this issue, you can't, the second amendment is clear, the heller decision backs up what I am saying(perhaps not on registration etc specifically) and people with their heads on right, who value their individual rights and constitutional/natural right to self defense agree as well.Please try and avoid your insult and insinuations, show me I am wrong Mookie, please , please TRY. You can't. Everytime I see your name I think of The idiot spike lee played(which is not a stretch for him) in the movie "Do The Right Thing", but that is a different story and getting dangerously close to getting personal. Back on subject.Please, oh please, tell me A. How I am wrong on this.

No one who is even one degree to the left of your thinking can discuss anything with you. "Give me a real argument", "people with their heads on right". Why don't you argue with those who try instead of dismissing them and ignoring them because they don't qualify to you're self determined entry level. You state you love to debate but all I ever see from you is dictation to the "unwashed masses".

And yes you're posts were in unrelated threads, but they show you for who you are. Do as I say, not as I do.

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Cruikshank does not apply.See HELLER.

Like I said you missed my point so I'll put it here and if you don't get it now you probably never will. "Has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the National Government."

[NeonSamurai]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

That's what entertains me the most about him. You read what he wrote, and you wonder if he's just like a really, really self aware person with a projection issue.

No... he doesn't quite use that one, I would go down a level and look at those ones.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Kptlt. Hellmut Neuerburg

Like I said you missed my point so I'll put it here and if you don't get it now you probably never will. "Has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the National Government."

No, I get your point as you are trying to say the Second Amendment does not give citizens the right to own a firearm per Cruikshank, only to restrict the federal government. However that is not relevant as Heller decision stated there is a right, as the second amendment so obviously spells out.Heller overrules Cruikshank.McDonald V Chicago rules that states are limited the same way the feds are.

[eddie]

I put old Bubbles on the ignore list, don't have to read any more of his endless nonsense.

I put old Bubbles on the ignore list, don't have to read any more of his endless nonsense.

But then you miss the exquisite comedy, you must admit that it is a very convincing parody of a reactionary nut case that he is playing.

[Cybermat47]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

But then you miss the exquisite comedy, you must admit that it is a very convincing parody of a reactionary nut case that he is playing.

Indeed so!