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Old 03-09-24, 12:52 PM   #1
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Default Modded SH4 crashing during task force attacks

Hey y'all, could really use some help with this one since I have performed 3 different clean reinstalls already, but the problem persists.

The game runs fine normally. I am able to engage convoys and lone ships. But whenever I encounter a Japanese task force and triggers its aggression, the game CTDs.

Here is my mod list:
Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157
[D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Silent Hunters wolves of the pacific\MODS]

1_TriggerMaru_Overhaul_2-5
1_TMO_25_small_patch
Fleetboat_Interior_TMO2.5_BH_U_2.0
New Narwhal K v 1.8.5
New Narwhal TMO2.5_Support
Narwhal_Graphics support
Captain Midnights MORE CBS NEWS! MOD v1.2
Improved Stock Environment_v3_TMO&RFB

I have also already applied LAA to my SH4.exe

Any input would be greatly appreciated!
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Old 03-13-24, 03:21 PM   #2
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First of all, right-click on your SH4.exe file in the game folder, and choose "Properties". On that first "General" tab toward the bottom is the "Attributes" section. Make certain the tick box for "Read-only" is clear. If it is not, clear it, OK it, and then re-run either LAA or the 4Gig Patch. Make certain they are applied correctly. They will not work correctly if a file is set to "Read-only". Second is your mod list. The Narwhal mod is not quite correct. Your
New Narwhal K v 1.8.5
New Narwhal TMO2.5_Support
but de-activate the
Narwhal_Graphics support
since that is for the Stock game. Also, I would re-order a few things. Start with
1_TriggerMaru_Overhaul_2-5
1_TMO_25_small_patch
New Narwhal K v 1.8.5
New Narwhal TMO2.5_Support
Delete the Save folder data (C:\Users \UserName \Documents \SH4), and test it. If all is well, then do
1_TriggerMaru_Overhaul_2-5
1_TMO_25_small_patch
New Narwhal K v 1.8.5
New Narwhal TMO2.5_Support
Captain Midnights MORE CBS NEWS! MOD v1.2
Test it again. You should be able to leave the Save folder alone this time. If all is well, try adding the Environment, but delete the Save folder this time again. I am not 100% certain of its compatibility, but it should be OK.

We would have to wait from vickers03 to tell us if his Fleetboat Interiors mod is compatible with regular TMO. The one you have there is built for Bubblehead1980's re-do of TMO, which does have some differences from regular TMO. It looks like it might work, but... I dunno. I have PM'd him for you, and he might post back here shortly about that. For now, leave it out, or if you experiment and put it in, be sure and empty that Save folder again. If it does fail in your experiments, de-activate that mod and once again delete the Save folder. Then play without it. Getting things squared away on a 'modern' Windows OS can be a bother, but you'll get there...
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Old 03-13-24, 03:35 PM   #3
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i could not think of anything with my interiors that cause a crash
with a task force, except the sound library sh.sdl maybe since it's the
one from bubbleheads update 2.0.
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Old 03-14-24, 05:48 PM   #4
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I think that file is basically the same, other than a few added links, which would not be "active" without the calls in the particles and other files... Maybe its just the extra Narwhal graphics file, and possibly a non-writeable SH4.exe file for the LAA... ??
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Old 03-16-24, 03:49 PM   #5
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First of all, right-click on your SH4.exe file in the game folder, and choose "Properties". On that first "General" tab toward the bottom is the "Attributes" section. Make certain the tick box for "Read-only" is clear. If it is not, clear it, OK it, and then re-run either LAA or the 4Gig Patch. Make certain they are applied correctly. They will not work correctly if a file is set to "Read-only". Second is your mod list. The Narwhal mod is not quite correct. Your
New Narwhal K v 1.8.5
New Narwhal TMO2.5_Support
but de-activate the
Narwhal_Graphics support
since that is for the Stock game. Also, I would re-order a few things. Start with
1_TriggerMaru_Overhaul_2-5
1_TMO_25_small_patch
New Narwhal K v 1.8.5
New Narwhal TMO2.5_Support
Delete the Save folder data (C:\Users \UserName \Documents \SH4), and test it. If all is well, then do
1_TriggerMaru_Overhaul_2-5
1_TMO_25_small_patch
New Narwhal K v 1.8.5
New Narwhal TMO2.5_Support
Captain Midnights MORE CBS NEWS! MOD v1.2
Test it again. You should be able to leave the Save folder alone this time. If all is well, try adding the Environment, but delete the Save folder this time again. I am not 100% certain of its compatibility, but it should be OK.

We would have to wait from vickers03 to tell us if his Fleetboat Interiors mod is compatible with regular TMO. The one you have there is built for Bubblehead1980's re-do of TMO, which does have some differences from regular TMO. It looks like it might work, but... I dunno. I have PM'd him for you, and he might post back here shortly about that. For now, leave it out, or if you experiment and put it in, be sure and empty that Save folder again. If it does fail in your experiments, de-activate that mod and once again delete the Save folder. Then play without it. Getting things squared away on a 'modern' Windows OS can be a bother, but you'll get there...
Thank you for the reply friend! My SH4.exe does not seem to be the issue because it already had the [READ ONLY] box unchecked.

Unfortunately, I tried deleting the the SH4 folder in Documents and reapply the mods as you have suggested, and my game crashed as soon as I triggered a task force's hostility. This is a new game with only the following mods enabled:
1_TriggerMaru_Overhaul_2-5
1_TMO_25_small_patch
New Narwhal K v 1.8.5
New Narwhal TMO2.5_Support

I will try deleting and reinstalling everything again, but I have already done so twice, only to get the same results : (
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Old 03-17-24, 08:12 PM   #6
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Just to be certain, are you using Ducimus's Trigger Maru, or Bubblehead1980's updated version? If Ducimus's original, try leaving out the Narwhal mods altogether initially, and you could also leave out the Small Patch. All that patch does is make the Tambor and upgradeable boat. Otherwise, if you start with a Tambor, that is the only boat you get. You start with it, and you finish with it. But just try with TMO by itself, and see what you get.
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