Here we go again-Ukraine once again - Page 69

Red Devil · 02-25-22, 03:37 PM

Skybird · 02-25-22, 03:45 PM

At least here the Europeans now took the lead over the Americans. Putin's and Lavrov's assets within reach of the eU banks, are frozen.

Why not expropriated...

Putin calls openly for the death of Selensky. Wowh. Even in the middle age and duriong the crusades and durign the wars between Christian and Muslims the rule everbyody followed was: "king does not slay king".

Putins latest TV speech was - bizarre, to put it midly. I again really have doubts that he is mentally healthy anymore.

There can be no go back to normal anymore as long as Russia is ruled by murderous cynical scum like Putin, Lavrov, Medvedev and who knows what. Yes, we are in a cold war. And if we are not lucky, we could easily end up in a hot war.

They start to annoucne they want to throw money at the armed forces. Problem is you cna onpy buy what has been prodcued. And porodfuciton can only be with workers and specialist, and sufficient raw materials in supply. But the logistics crunsh the world suffers, does not help. I think it will take more than just ten years to bring the Bundeswehr back into an effective shape, and there must be a new debate about conscription of any kind, the current system doe snot cut it, unfortunately, there are not enough recruits, since years. I dont like conscription, but what alternative is there?

We must also desperately change our view on globalization and the dependency it brings. We must reconsider high tech trade. We must bring essential industrial competence back to Europe. We must start sanctioning companies and corporations doing business in Russia and/or China. We must get untied form both, and block trade with them. We feed andf foster our worst of enemies if we don't, and they will kill and eat us one day.

"Wandel durch Handel" (change by trade), the German diplomats' top motto, must be buried. Now. It has not worked. Never, nowhere, not a single time. Since decades. Its the biggest foreign-political lie the Germans deceive themselves with, since 50 years or so.

After all, we, the West, always just hunted the money. And for that every foul deal and liefull talk was delivered by us all too willingly. And that still is the case towards the Ukraine today. I have no explicit sympathy for the ukraine as a state, it is a corrupt state and a broken state and I do not like states in general, but my sympathy is with those 40+ million ordinary people for whom these times are just mere horror, and all to often just a fight for survival.

That Putin and Lavrov most likely will never be held accountable for the atrocities and mass murders and war crimes, never end up with a rope around their necks, is unbearable. Whoever in the Russian military and intel service follows their commands, is as guilty as were the officers in the Wehrmacht who stayed obedient to Hitler until the end.

Is there even just one country in the West that is not governed by criminally corrupts, breathtaking idiots, indifferent amateurs, incapable imbiciles?

UglyMowgli · 02-25-22, 04:30 PM

The NATO VHRJTF (5000 troops) commanded by the French this year is going to be deployed whitin 2-3 days in Poland, Romania and Baltic States. And the HRTF (45000 troops) within 7 days.
The French-German Brigade is already packing.

UglyMowgli · 02-25-22, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

Muslims the rule everbyody followed was: "king does not slay king".

Putins latest TV speech was - bizarre, to put it midly. I again really have doubts that he is mentally healthy anymore.

Well some MD specialized in studying World Leaders health, already said few days ago that his puffy face and stomping feet is the result of high dose of corticoids (used mainly to cure leukemia) but corticoids have side effects like hallucinations, disillusion, ....

By the way Pornhub just banned all Russian IP, this move will certainly hurt the Russian and they will withdraw from Ukraine.

Aktungbby · 02-25-22, 04:39 PM

the driver appears to move at video's end

Catfish · 02-25-22, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by UglyMowgli

[...] By the way Pornhub just banned all Russian IP, this move will certainly hurt the Russian and they will withdraw from Ukraine.

If this is true it makes more sense than Europe

Jeff-Groves · 02-25-22, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

Putin calls openly for the death of Selensky. Wowh. Even in the middle age and duriong the crusades and durign the wars between Christian and Muslims the rule everbyody followed was: "king does not slay king".

That ended LONG AGO!
I think it's time to send Putin to a permanent dirt nap.

Catfish · 02-25-22, 04:49 PM

I would advise to leave the country like DeGaulle did in WW2, and continue from abroad.
Other than Putin, this man has balls.

OT @JeffG yes but how.

Jeff-Groves · 02-25-22, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by clayton

I'm having a difficult time determining who the patriots are on this site.

Your gonna have to define your idea of "Patriot".
That is an often used term tossed around by SO MANY Fruit Loops now a days.

Jeff-Groves · 02-25-22, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish

OT @JeffG yes but how.

I'll bet someone close to him will arrange something as soon as the money starts drying up.

He'll not be the first one in history to go all 'Jimmy Hoffa'.

The Colombian Cartel Guys were WAY richer! And look what happened to them.

Osama Bin Laden didn't fair to well himself.

I'd bet a Deck of Cards with Russian Generals and such are being made right now!

mapuc · 02-25-22, 06:34 PM

It's a different between defending your country against an aggressor from another country, than defending your home against your brother or sister.

I would defend my countries if they were attacked by a foreign state-But I would not defend my home against my brother or sister-Instead I would flee the country.

Markus

Eisenwurst · 02-25-22, 06:43 PM

Heroes.

All killed.

Rockstar · 02-25-22, 07:28 PM

This doesn’t have jack to do with freedom and democracy, women's rights, de-nazification, socalled NATO expansion, puppies, rape, sassy babushkas, Putin, Trump or Biden. This is a power play that has a damn good chance of happening and will change the landscape of global politics for decades to come.

As for Germany suddenly all for disconnecting Putin from SWIFT. Thanks but no thanks, however you true patriots can jump on that band wagon if you want. Germany has been after Ukraines resources since ‘39 it can’t function without imported energy, minerals or grain. Couple that with China’s state news paper hinting of a Russian, German, Chinese economic alliance, Poland’s and Lithuanian warning years ago of a new Molotov Ribbentrop pact I be wary following their lead until the risks vs benefits to MY country have been weighed.

Red Devil · 02-25-22, 07:56 PM

the driver did survive, he was hunched down in the well

Admiral8Q · 02-25-22, 08:11 PM

Incredible, this topic has been going on a lot in a short time.

2 or 3 days now of "war"?

The stuff on Facebook makes me roll my eyes.

Anyways, for one thing "Biden" is a president and does not control the diplomacy and military or the United States of America. So relying on a "king" as an "emperor" does not make sense. He is the representative figurehead of the 'elected' party.

The intelligent people in the USA should be making the decisions. Not facebook or other media or TV celebrities.

What is not "posted" is probably best. Like a submarine that is never known.

02-25-22, 03:37 PM	#1021
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02-25-22, 03:45 PM	#1022
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,540 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	At least here the Europeans now took the lead over the Americans. Putin's and Lavrov's assets within reach of the eU banks, are frozen. Why not expropriated... Putin calls openly for the death of Selensky. Wowh. Even in the middle age and duriong the crusades and durign the wars between Christian and Muslims the rule everbyody followed was: "king does not slay king". Putins latest TV speech was - bizarre, to put it midly. I again really have doubts that he is mentally healthy anymore. There can be no go back to normal anymore as long as Russia is ruled by murderous cynical scum like Putin, Lavrov, Medvedev and who knows what. Yes, we are in a cold war. And if we are not lucky, we could easily end up in a hot war. They start to annoucne they want to throw money at the armed forces. Problem is you cna onpy buy what has been prodcued. And porodfuciton can only be with workers and specialist, and sufficient raw materials in supply. But the logistics crunsh the world suffers, does not help. I think it will take more than just ten years to bring the Bundeswehr back into an effective shape, and there must be a new debate about conscription of any kind, the current system doe snot cut it, unfortunately, there are not enough recruits, since years. I dont like conscription, but what alternative is there? We must also desperately change our view on globalization and the dependency it brings. We must reconsider high tech trade. We must bring essential industrial competence back to Europe. We must start sanctioning companies and corporations doing business in Russia and/or China. We must get untied form both, and block trade with them. We feed andf foster our worst of enemies if we don't, and they will kill and eat us one day. "Wandel durch Handel" (change by trade), the German diplomats' top motto, must be buried. Now. It has not worked. Never, nowhere, not a single time. Since decades. Its the biggest foreign-political lie the Germans deceive themselves with, since 50 years or so. After all, we, the West, always just hunted the money. And for that every foul deal and liefull talk was delivered by us all too willingly. And that still is the case towards the Ukraine today. I have no explicit sympathy for the ukraine as a state, it is a corrupt state and a broken state and I do not like states in general, but my sympathy is with those 40+ million ordinary people for whom these times are just mere horror, and all to often just a fight for survival. That Putin and Lavrov most likely will never be held accountable for the atrocities and mass murders and war crimes, never end up with a rope around their necks, is unbearable. Whoever in the Russian military and intel service follows their commands, is as guilty as were the officers in the Wehrmacht who stayed obedient to Hitler until the end. Is there even just one country in the West that is not governed by criminally corrupts, breathtaking idiots, indifferent amateurs, incapable imbiciles? __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

02-25-22, 04:30 PM	#1023
UglyMowgli Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 773 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	The NATO VHRJTF (5000 troops) commanded by the French this year is going to be deployed whitin 2-3 days in Poland, Romania and Baltic States. And the HRTF (45000 troops) within 7 days. The French-German Brigade is already packing. __________________ Modern Naval Warfare Community Manager

02-25-22, 04:39 PM	#1025
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 27,890 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	the driver appears to move at video's end __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe"

02-25-22, 04:49 PM	#1028
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	I would advise to leave the country like DeGaulle did in WW2, and continue from abroad. Other than Putin, this man has balls. OT @JeffG yes but how. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

02-25-22, 06:34 PM	#1031
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,926 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	It's a different between defending your country against an aggressor from another country, than defending your home against your brother or sister. I would defend my countries if they were attacked by a foreign state-But I would not defend my home against my brother or sister-Instead I would flee the country. Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

02-25-22, 06:43 PM	#1032
Eisenwurst Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 3,625 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 0	Heroes. All killed. __________________

02-25-22, 07:28 PM	#1033
Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 11,861 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	This doesn’t have jack to do with freedom and democracy, women's rights, de-nazification, socalled NATO expansion, puppies, rape, sassy babushkas, Putin, Trump or Biden. This is a power play that has a damn good chance of happening and will change the landscape of global politics for decades to come. As for Germany suddenly all for disconnecting Putin from SWIFT. Thanks but no thanks, however you true patriots can jump on that band wagon if you want. Germany has been after Ukraines resources since ‘39 it can’t function without imported energy, minerals or grain. Couple that with China’s state news paper hinting of a Russian, German, Chinese economic alliance, Poland’s and Lithuanian warning years ago of a new Molotov Ribbentrop pact I be wary following their lead until the risks vs benefits to MY country have been weighed. __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time. Last edited by Rockstar; 02-25-22 at 07:36 PM.

02-25-22, 07:56 PM	#1034
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,515 Downloads: 258 Uploads: 0	the driver did survive, he was hunched down in the well __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

02-25-22, 08:11 PM	#1035
Admiral8Q Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Prince Edward Island, Canada Posts: 1,080 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Incredible, this topic has been going on a lot in a short time. 2 or 3 days now of "war"? The stuff on Facebook makes me roll my eyes. Anyways, for one thing "Biden" is a president and does not control the diplomacy and military or the United States of America. So relying on a "king" as an "emperor" does not make sense. He is the representative figurehead of the 'elected' party. The intelligent people in the USA should be making the decisions. Not facebook or other media or TV celebrities. What is not "posted" is probably best. Like a submarine that is never known. __________________