Weird save issues FOTRS

1Patriotofmany · 02-21-22, 09:09 PM

My saves work fine when I save and resume. Randomly when I save and go through the exit game procedure windows encounters an error. frustrating. So from now on I'm just going to save and resume, then just exit the game. Anyone else this weird issue?

KaleunMarco · 02-21-22, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 1Patriotofmany

My saves work fine when I save and resume. Randomly when I save and go through the exit game procedure windows encounters an error. frustrating. So from now on I'm just going to save and resume, then just exit the game. Anyone else this weird issue?

yes.
sometimes.
but not with this version of FOTRSU.
i cannot remember which mod-set

propbeanie · 02-22-22, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 1Patriotofmany

My saves work fine when I save and resume. Randomly when I save and go through the exit game procedure windows encounters an error. frustrating. So from now on I'm just going to save and resume, then just exit the game. Anyone else this weird issue?

Use JSGME, and click on "Tasks..." then "Export activated mods list to -->" and then "Clipboard". Paste the list into your next posting. Also, what boat are you driving, what port did you sail from, and what is the date? It would also be nice to know your assignment, or is this with ALL exits from the Save dialog? More details, else we cannot diagnose. It would also be best to post issues in the FotRSU thread... All of this information is something we need anytime anyone reports an issue with their FotRSU, else we know not where to look...

1Patriotofmany · 02-23-22, 04:36 AM

I only have Fortus activated(latest version from a clean install). Coming out of Brisbane, Salmon class It's totally random saving and loading both ways. I have fails loading too, but iIf I restart the computer it starts the saved game fine sometimes. The thing is totally random. But thanks I don't think we can narrow it down. All random.

propbeanie · 02-23-22, 10:28 AM

Are you "shelling out" to Windows? ie: With the game running, use Alt-Tab or Windows-D or anything to go to the desktop or another app? Do you have much running in the background of the computer (systray) while playing the game? Had you emptied the Save folder prior to using FotRSU? I had four computers (a moment of silence for the recently departed one) running FotRSU, and none had issue as you describe. I don't know about others' experiences, of course. My weakest machine was a Core Duo quad 2.1gHz, 8 gig of ram, 2x 2gig 7200rpm HD, with an nVidia 560Ti. The recently departed was a Core i5 5th gen with 8 gig of ram, a 1TB 5400 HD and onboard Intel HD Graphics, nothing spectacular as far as hardware... ??

1Patriotofmany · 02-23-22, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by propbeanie

Are you "shelling out" to Windows? ie: With the game running, use Alt-Tab or Windows-D or anything to go to the desktop or another app? Do you have much running in the background of the computer (systray) while playing the game? Had you emptied the Save folder prior to using FotRSU? I had four computers (a moment of silence for the recently departed one) running FotRSU, and none had issue as you describe. I don't know about others' experiences, of course. My weakest machine was a Core Duo quad 2.1gHz, 8 gig of ram, 2x 2gig 7200rpm HD, with an nVidia 560Ti. The recently departed was a Core i5 5th gen with 8 gig of ram, a 1TB 5400 HD and onboard Intel HD Graphics, nothing spectacular as far as hardware... ??

Nope I learned not to a while ago thanks to you guys. Yes completely clean install. I've always had problems with saves and loads with vanilla too on numerous computers. It's too random to lock the problem down to anything. Just weird. For example I also will try to load a saved game, it will error out. I'll restart the computer then try again and it will load fine. Using an HP workstation Z620 with two Xeon processors, 96GB ram though neither of those features are used I'm sure, GTX 1070 SS WD blue drive C: with the operating system(win7) and two other standard hard drives E: running a raid 1 with the game on the raid. The saves naturally go to the C: drive in a separate save file for each mod. Just weird how random it is and apparently most of you guys don't have this problem. Annoying. Maybe I'm sinking too many ships?

propbeanie · 02-23-22, 03:15 PM

Oh well... you do have plenty of hardware there... If you get the issue with the Stock game also, that is really odd... I don't know if you have ever tried one of those gaming apps such as Razer Cortex Game Booster and similar (there are at least three programs named "Game Booster"), those can be set to temporarily "kill" background apps and then restore them when you exit the game. Those though can cause as much trouble as they solve...

DaveR · 03-30-22, 10:51 AM

yes. but didn't have any problems until updated to salmon class sub. first mission CTD on launch. reloaded and started ok. but when I exited, CTD(?)... and consistently does it.

however, just discovered that sub doesn't have full crew, no rear torp loaders. have rear mounted 3" gun, but management say's bow gun. haven't fixed it yet.

which reminds me, tried to put rear gun on last sub, didn't work. swear I loaded save; but then, when started mission, come to find out, later in the game, crew couldn't man the gun. at least, could man it myself.

propbeanie · 03-31-22, 10:40 AM

You have unintended mod soup DaveR.
1. The game has to be installed or copied to a folder of your own creation outside of any Windows "Program Files" folder (ie: C:\Games)
2. The "Save" folder (C:\Users \UserName \Documents \SH4) MUST be emptied prior to playing the modded game
3. The game needs to have the 4Gig Patch or LAA properly applied to it
See the first post in the FotRSU REL thread, the download page, or any one of a number of pdf files in the mod's Support folder for more details. Also, it is better to post troubles in the mod REL thread so issues can be more easily tracked.

02-21-22, 09:09 PM	#1
1Patriotofmany Commander Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 455 Downloads: 95 Uploads: 0	Weird save issues FOTRS My saves work fine when I save and resume. Randomly when I save and go through the exit game procedure windows encounters an error. frustrating. So from now on I'm just going to save and resume, then just exit the game. Anyone else this weird issue?

02-23-22, 10:28 AM	#5
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,761 Downloads: 441 Uploads: 2	Are you "shelling out" to Windows? ie: With the game running, use Alt-Tab or Windows-D or anything to go to the desktop or another app? Do you have much running in the background of the computer (systray) while playing the game? Had you emptied the Save folder prior to using FotRSU? I had four computers (a moment of silence for the recently departed one) running FotRSU, and none had issue as you describe. I don't know about others' experiences, of course. My weakest machine was a Core Duo quad 2.1gHz, 8 gig of ram, 2x 2gig 7200rpm HD, with an nVidia 560Ti. The recently departed was a Core i5 5th gen with 8 gig of ram, a 1TB 5400 HD and onboard Intel HD Graphics, nothing spectacular as far as hardware... ?? __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

02-23-22, 03:15 PM	#7
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,761 Downloads: 441 Uploads: 2	Oh well... you do have plenty of hardware there... If you get the issue with the Stock game also, that is really odd... I don't know if you have ever tried one of those gaming apps such as Razer Cortex Game Booster and similar (there are at least three programs named "Game Booster"), those can be set to temporarily "kill" background apps and then restore them when you exit the game. Those though can cause as much trouble as they solve... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

03-31-22, 10:40 AM	#9
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,761 Downloads: 441 Uploads: 2	You have unintended mod soup DaveR. 1. The game has to be installed or copied to a folder of your own creation outside of any Windows "Program Files" folder (ie: C:\Games) 2. The "Save" folder (C:\Users \UserName \Documents \SH4) MUST be emptied prior to playing the modded game 3. The game needs to have the 4Gig Patch or LAA properly applied to it See the first post in the FotRSU REL thread, the download page, or any one of a number of pdf files in the mod's Support folder for more details. Also, it is better to post troubles in the mod REL thread so issues can be more easily tracked. __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

02-23-22, 04:36 AM	#4
1Patriotofmany Commander Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 455 Downloads: 95 Uploads: 0	I only have Fortus activated(latest version from a clean install). Coming out of Brisbane, Salmon class It's totally random saving and loading both ways. I have fails loading too, but iIf I restart the computer it starts the saved game fine sometimes. The thing is totally random. But thanks I don't think we can narrow it down. All random.

03-30-22, 10:51 AM	#8
DaveR A-ganger Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 72 Downloads: 190 Uploads: 0	yes. but didn't have any problems until updated to salmon class sub. first mission CTD on launch. reloaded and started ok. but when I exited, CTD(?)... and consistently does it. however, just discovered that sub doesn't have full crew, no rear torp loaders. have rear mounted 3" gun, but management say's bow gun. haven't fixed it yet. which reminds me, tried to put rear gun on last sub, didn't work. swear I loaded save; but then, when started mission, come to find out, later in the game, crew couldn't man the gun. at least, could man it myself.