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mapuc · 12-12-21, 01:16 PM

Tried to find the article in a Swedish newspaper. Well two in fact.

One where an non vaccinated nurse infected som elderly at a care home here 6(I think it was) Died from the infection despite being vaccinated.

The second was a vaccinated nurse at some hospital who infected some patients (Can't remember how many)

It is clear that both vaccinated and non vaccinated infect others yes.

Some question popped up.
Where did this vaccinated nurse get the infection ? Was it a non vaccinated that infected this nurse or was it one of her colleague ? If so where did s/he get it from a.s.o.

Markus

Jeff-Groves · 12-12-21, 01:21 PM

The New Covid protection. Helps enforce Social Distancing.

Ostfriese · 12-12-21, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by August

You first. I'm basing my statement on the rather obvious fact that covid vaccines don't prevent people from catching the disease, transmitting it to others, getting sick from it or does it keep them from dying from it in significant numbers. Doesn't sound like a very effective vaccine to me but maybe you can post some government bullcrap figures to prove otherwise. Go ahead.

No, my friend. You are making the claim, you are going to prove it, that's how science works.

As I have said before vaccines NEVER completely prevent people from catching diseases and transmitting them, they only reduce the chance.

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And I hope you don't have to go back to colonial days to to find your examples of smallpox vaccine failure because giving people a hopefully small but unmeasured dose of a live virus is not at all the same as giving them a vaccine.

There were still cases in the 1960s. The effect of smallpox vaccines begins to dwindle after three to five years and is completely gone after 20, as stated by the CDC (via webarchive):

https://web.archive.org/web/20150521..._immunity.html

Injection of a small amount of live viruses is not vaccination, but inoculation.

Skybird · 12-12-21, 03:49 PM

"After careful consideration, he had decided to refuse
the compulsory driving license."

August · 12-12-21, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ostfriese

As I have said before vaccines NEVER completely prevent people from catching diseases and transmitting them, they only reduce the chance.

Yeah and I never claimed they were 100% effective either so take your strawman and stuff it.

The fact remains there's a deep and yawning gulf between what a real vaccine will achieve and what these so called covid "vaccines" have done and you know it. Your claim of some unknown but obviously tiny number of smallpox breakthroughs (if they exist seeing as how you still haven't backed it up) versus the millions of breakthrough covid infections and climbing numbers of related deaths just proves my point that covid vaccines are on the extreme low end of the vaccine effectiveness scale. More a placebo at this point than anything else in my opinion.

Rockstar · 12-13-21, 06:57 AM

Hey you vaccine mandate Nazis, you unquestioning ‘believers’ in your god Phizer, look what you caused. Look at the harm you have done to others with your authoritarian demands and invasion into peoples private lives.

A “massive” (as opposed to rare) rise in heart disease and look how you mandate Nazis and the Covidian Cult avoids responsibility. Instead of looking at the experimental drug you inject into healthy children and others. Just make up some new mental health disorder and acronym and blame that.

mapuc · 12-13-21, 09:46 AM

It's totally out of control here in Denmark. Record keeps on being broken today's number of infected is 7779 which is the highest so far. 4.21 % of those who was tested was positive.

Markus

Rockstar · 12-13-21, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

It's totally out of control here in Denmark. Record keeps on being broken today's number of infected is 7779 which is the highest so far. 4.21 % of those who was tested was positive.

Markus

Our death rate went from a 876 weekly moving average to 1,092. Guess people should take more vitamin D in winter months. Wonder how the stats on heart disease is lately?

Hey I got some fear porn to share. With the recent “massive” increase in heart disease since COVID. Don’t you think all you outdoor enthusiasts who got vaccinated ought to get your heart checked out before your next big adventure? Who knows what damage the vaccine, errr… I’m mean the new Post Pandemic Stress Disorder has had on you.

mapuc · 12-13-21, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

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Hey I got some fear porn to share. With the recent “massive” increase in heart disease since COVID. Don’t you think all you outdoor enthusiasts who got vaccinated ought to get your heart checked out before your next big adventure? Who knows what damage the vaccine, errr… I’m mean the new Post Pandemic Stress Disorder has had on you.

I'm fine thank you I do not suffer from Post Pandemic Stress Disorder.
Haven't got any symptoms so far.

About the vaccine I'll take it when I feel ready for it not before.

Markus

August · 12-13-21, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Our death rate went from a 876 weekly moving average to 1,092. Guess people should take more vitamin D in winter months. Wonder how the stats on heart disease is lately?

Hey I got some fear porn to share. With the recent “massive” increase in heart disease since COVID. Don’t you think all you outdoor enthusiasts who got vaccinated ought to get your heart checked out before your next big adventure? Who knows what damage the vaccine, errr… I’m mean the new Post Pandemic Stress Disorder has had on you.

Yeah well I'm a 62 year old outdoor enthusiast, I've had a shot but I never stopped adventuring or working throughout the whole pandemic as I am considered an "essential worker" and I am not going to hide in my basement like a scared weakling.

Skybird · 12-13-21, 12:06 PM

"Expression of concerns". Thats an understatement, by what i have read about it in the past couple of days.

https://fullfact.org/health/covid-va...heart-disease/

https://www.heart.org/en/news/2021/1...study-confirms

Jeff-Groves · 12-13-21, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Yeah well I'm a 62 year old outdoor enthusiast, I've had a shot but I never stopped adventuring or working throughout the whole pandemic as I am considered an "essential worker" and I am not going to hide in my basement like a scared weakling.

I'll be 64 next month. I've had my shots with no side effects. Not even a sore arm.
I've worked since this started. Traveled all over the USA working in fact.
I don't know what the hell this 'New' PPSD crap is. Sounds like another excuse to collect something by someone.

August · 12-13-21, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

I'll be 64 next month. I've had my shots with no side effects. Not even a sore arm.
I've worked since this started. Traveled all over the USA working in fact.
I don't know what the hell this 'New' PPSD crap is. Sounds like another excuse to collect something by someone.

'Xactly.

mapuc · 12-13-21, 03:26 PM

This comment isn't about whether the vaccine protect from getting very sick when infected. But what is the agenda behind the development of these vaccine.

When the vaccine came-One shot and you were protected. Not so far after...a second jab is needed to give a good protection...well some month later we were told that a second jab wasn't enough a booster jab is needed.
Today I saw a clip from a news article where the leader of Pfizer saying that a fourth jab may be necessary.

Are they doing this on purpose making the vaccine in a way that we need many more shots so they can earn lots of money ?

Markus

Skybird · 12-13-21, 03:39 PM

Stop nature having its ways and stop the vorus from mutating - then they must not alter a vaccine on purpose. Or change it at all.

The the forecast says "rain today", you take an umbrelly with you, and if four hours later the weather has changed and is fine, you do not walk around with a still opened umbrella.

12-12-21, 01:16 PM	#9496
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,974 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Tried to find the article in a Swedish newspaper. Well two in fact. One where an non vaccinated nurse infected som elderly at a care home here 6(I think it was) Died from the infection despite being vaccinated. The second was a vaccinated nurse at some hospital who infected some patients (Can't remember how many) It is clear that both vaccinated and non vaccinated infect others yes. Some question popped up. Where did this vaccinated nurse get the infection ? Was it a non vaccinated that infected this nurse or was it one of her colleague ? If so where did s/he get it from a.s.o. Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

12-12-21, 01:21 PM	#9497
Jeff-Groves Village Idiot Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,322 Downloads: 130 Uploads: 0	The New Covid protection. Helps enforce Social Distancing. __________________ I don't do Stupid. So don't ask.

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,571 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	"After careful consideration, he had decided to refuse the compulsory driving license." __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

12-13-21, 06:57 AM	#9501
Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 11,896 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Hey you vaccine mandate Nazis, you unquestioning ‘believers’ in your god Phizer, look what you caused. Look at the harm you have done to others with your authoritarian demands and invasion into peoples private lives. A “massive” (as opposed to rare) rise in heart disease and look how you mandate Nazis and the Covidian Cult avoids responsibility. Instead of looking at the experimental drug you inject into healthy children and others. Just make up some new mental health disorder and acronym and blame that. __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time. Last edited by Rockstar; 12-13-21 at 08:51 AM.

12-13-21, 09:46 AM	#9502
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,974 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	It's totally out of control here in Denmark. Record keeps on being broken today's number of infected is 7779 which is the highest so far. 4.21 % of those who was tested was positive. Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

12-13-21, 12:06 PM	#9506
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,571 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	"Expression of concerns". Thats an understatement, by what i have read about it in the past couple of days. https://fullfact.org/health/covid-va...heart-disease/ https://www.heart.org/en/news/2021/1...study-confirms __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

12-13-21, 03:26 PM	#9509
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,974 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	This comment isn't about whether the vaccine protect from getting very sick when infected. But what is the agenda behind the development of these vaccine. When the vaccine came-One shot and you were protected. Not so far after...a second jab is needed to give a good protection...well some month later we were told that a second jab wasn't enough a booster jab is needed. Today I saw a clip from a news article where the leader of Pfizer saying that a fourth jab may be necessary. Are they doing this on purpose making the vaccine in a way that we need many more shots so they can earn lots of money ? Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

12-13-21, 03:39 PM	#9510
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,571 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Stop nature having its ways and stop the vorus from mutating - then they must not alter a vaccine on purpose. Or change it at all. The the forecast says "rain today", you take an umbrelly with you, and if four hours later the weather has changed and is fine, you do not walk around with a still opened umbrella. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.