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Old 01-18-23, 07:08 PM   #18
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Skybird can you recommend a good VR game which fit a newbie like me.

A game or Scenario where I walk in the nature..so I get used to these VR glasses.

You posted a video about kayaking I really liked that but is it for a newbie.

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In the beginning, avoid games with first person perspective and then walking, also action paced flight sims. Seek steady, calm sceneries.

If you are suspicous you may suffer from motion sickness first and want to slowly adapt and train your brain, then get Virtual Desktop, i desribed it before. It costs a little money, 12 euros or so, but all workshop movie themes are free except the big Sydney cinema. It mirrors your desktop on that virtual moviescreen, form there you can then do as usual with your rig.

Start to watch videos in youtube with it. Sightseeing stuff for example. Visit other cities. Watch 2D videos in high resolution 4K and 8K and fullscreen, then the moviescreen is indeed a giant movie screen.

Then try 360° videos, that is one step higher, the screen disappears, the scene surrounds you from all sides. The videos however are a bit blurrier, even mroe so if theyx are old and were done with older 360-cameras of lesser resolution. For exmaple, sit on the uppoer deck of a tourst book and do a sihtseeing tourk the full tour, in New York. Or Berlin. Or where ever. Your trainign intensifies!

Then go to downloading from Steam the Google Earth and Streetview VR. You then learn to use the hand controllers more (Virtual Desktop can be used with controllers or mouse, as you like, and with real or with virtual keyboard, the latter via Microsoft onboard tools). That will impress you, and it has an onboard tutorial. Its free. Whenever you start to feel strange, you just do not do anything anymore, and the stuff you see is in frozen mode.

The above listed optiosn I am deeply thankful for being avialsble to me. I love them, and I use them all a very very lot. I have seen more of the world this way than a person could in all its life when travelling real. I feel like Alice in wonderland. Its a technical miracle that these things can be done, are possible.

The above is a smooth way to get into it, I think. What it is about is that you avoid programs with high speeds taking place at the rims of your viewing field, say a car racing along a wall, or a line of trees. Turbulent rotations along all three axes: aerial dogfights. First person shooters with plenty of rushing action and hectic. Try later, avoid at the start.

You ask for smooth walks in nature, well, I tried the Hunter games via Virtual Desktop, they did nto work well for me, even I felt strange, they are not made for VR, the head movement is the problem. Fallout 4 VR exists, but is not recommend, they say the conversion works not good, but I know Skyrim's VR clone, and that one works really good. But best really is to start with Google Earth, its Streetview option, and bicycle and walking videos in 2D high res or in 360° on Youtube.

You can also play on Virtual Desktop Cinema screens a board strategy game, may it be chess or backgammon as examples, Catan or Monopoly - something that your system can handle despite having to already deal with the VR set. The PC must run the VR, that consumes a lot of performance, and the game must live with the rest of system reserves. What works for oyu and what not this way you must check yourself. I can only recommend to try just every game that you have in 2D and that has no native VR support and where the tech demands are not that high that after running the VR set not enough performance is left for the game. Hexfield Cosims may also work well in Virtual Desktop on the movie screen. I will check that myself in an hour with WarPlan.

If you find that you can digest VR without getting nausea, then you can go to ordinary VR titles .

I only talk of games that I know in VR:


VERMILLION. Perfect for a nooewbie toi VR who is not certain about his vuklenrability to motion sickness, because it is absolutely calm, relaxed and extremely immersive at the same time. One should not feel any nausea in this. I mentioned it two or three pages before. That is THE IDEAL start for VR newbies!!!! I call it a must have, like Google Earth.
here: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...=235363&page=6
several posts and videos on top,in the mdidle and the blttom of that page.
I had done three paintigns so far, one was really good - anmd then I wa snot aware of the folder structure and accidentally deleted the full folder... Thats why I have not posted any paintings to boast... The software handles brilliantly, simply that. So very intuitively.
Get it, get it, it does not matter whether you think you can paint or not - just get it.

A-10 VR. No flightsim, has nothing to do with the Warthog. Superb laser-colt shooter, but you are free from excessive movements of your own position. I think it is the best game of its kind, I extremely like it, and it costs just 5 coins. Dont struggle too long with the leanrign mdoe,m its boring, the reuzglar game mdoes are different, all start slow - and end up extremely intense and dramatic. Simple concept, but splendidly executed. Get it! One of the most underrated and overlooked games in the VR genre. I cannot understand why this is not better known. I just dont get it.

Kayak Mirage VR. Looks great, and if you paddle with the correct technique, its quite realistic. But a bit thin in content. Some people however report they have mild nausea from the kayak bopping up and down on the waves. Still, I think it is an excellent VR demonstrator, and a good first shot for a newbie. Set all graphics details to max, if your system can handle it.

Subnautica: the mostc claustrophobic experience i ever had on PC, fantastic and intense atmosphere, truly frightening, but: intially not made for VR, and not optimsied for VR. The interface makes you realise that (needs gamepad), and some people report nausea when walkign instead of swimming. The devs say they feel not competent to code VR, thats why the successor had no VR version anymore. - Do not start with this, but put it on your later-list. It is very impressive.

Skyrim VR: different to Fallout 4 VR, Skyrim'S VR incarnation works very good. But when you are new and feel uncertian on your motion sickenss tolernace, save it for later, becasue the fact that it is a first person perspective in use is something that raises the challenge.

Assetto Corsa had VR added later. The menues are in 2D, gameplay in VR works flawlessly. AC Competizione has native VR support, and works very good. Raceroom has later added VR support, it works also flawless. I can fullheartly recommend all three for VR.


Dirt Rally 2 which is very intense and impressive in VR, but nonly when you are not prone to nausea, because it is a bumpy ride;

and ETS2 that looks really fantastic in VR and adds incredible cabin immersion. The night-day-cycles, weather, and cabins, as well as the optics/physics of the mirrors, are works of art. Works very good in VR.

Superb is VTOL, because it allows you to set your own speed at which you turn into a combat stunt pilot - or not. The experience is extremely immersive. Evertyhing, really everything if optimized for VR. EVERYTHING.

Whether your system can run VR AND Flight Simulator, I have my doubts, but in principle FS and VR are a natural pairing. If it works, this combo cannot be beaten by anything! Start wuthg small, open cockpit planes of low compeklxity, and see how your system handles it. I cannot fly the big Airbus an Boeings in VR for exmaple, my system starts to melt and stutter.

Derail Valley. Do yourself a favour and get this. It works well with the G2, and it is a gem of a train game. VTOL for train lovers.

Katana X. Japanese swords and flying fruits - got it? Simple and straight forward. I like it for its simple concept and good execution, and it costs just 1,60 Euros! Bought. Good training stuff to raise your nausea tolerance

Want to get a workout? Box VR. (Its no boxing simulator). Be aware however that sweaty face and VR headset do not combine well, due to lens fogging. BoxVR is an excellent sports app game, really, and you can do a workout with it for sure, but you want to use a strong ventilator, and a cloth around your face that soaks up sweat , a frottee headstrap or something and then the mask's rim on top of that. I tried several beat-the-beat games, this always was my darling, and by a huge lead. Top of the charts is Sabre, but that one I did not like. Box VR is for me. And yes, it will make you sweat and breath deep.

If sweating and lenses prove to be no problem for you: Thrill of the fight. Now, that is a boxing simulator, and a very original one. A work of love. If lens fogging is no issue for you, I recommend it. Videos do not do it justice, its better. Includes training in the virtual gym! No joke.

Later, when you found you have adapted to Vr motion and do not feel nausea, flightsims of various kinds may be somehtign for you, ionclduing dogfighting. The Warbirds VR Online series looks good, but I do not know it. The two Warplanes games (WW1, WW2 Pacific) I have just posted videos on. Its compromise between arcade and simplified sim with instant action - and no only short ammount of immersion! Nice snack for the quick break. just reduce control sensitivity in Pacific to minimum else it kills you. For what they are, they are really good. Can be flown wiht HOTAS as wlel, I think, but maybe that is overkill.

No Man's Sky works good in VR. My issue is more with the game design itself, its too boring after short time.

If the game is your taste, Elite VR. Works well in VR, but handles a bit complicated, but that is true of the 2D version as well.

Final Assault, a WW2-comic-style RTS from god-perspective. I posted a video a few weeks ago. Looks nice, handles great, and costs aorund 8 coins only. I recently posted a video about it. Dont forget to also zoom in closely sometimes to see all the many lovely details.

Pinball your thing? Pinball FX2 VR. Very, very good pinball, they look great in high-res VR like the G2, and now also support hand controllers. Its also a good starting game for VR newbies. Do not buy the newer Star War VR Pinball, however, that one works like brown stuff.

For a newbie, I would NOT recommend No Limits 2 Rollercoaster VR, the reason is self-expalnatory, I think. Also. Its, not really a game. Either you construct a rollercoaster in the editor, or you sit in one and do a ride. The experience is extrenely impressive at times, but its not really "gaming". More a sandbox for rollercoasters.

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I would love to recommend to you the following games, but for a G2 Reverb, I cannot, due to the previously mentioned handcontroller tracking weakness of the G2: Eleven Table Tennis is outstanding and one of the best VR titles I have so far played. The physics nail it, so does the extreme realism. Racket Fury: more action- oriented table tennis, a bit arcadish, and maybe due to that more entertaining for some, but the same problem with the G2. First Person Tennis: I had some wonderful online matches with it against other players, and believe it or not: if putting your heart into it and fully swing out your strikes, its closer to the real tennis than you can imagine, at least the techncial aspects. I loved it. That you cannot run back and forth in your living room like on a real court gets compensated for by three models to simauklte leg work and runnign, one of which I found to work extremely immersive and convinsing. Sweat and lens fogging problem applies, soutioin must be individually chosen,. I had solutions for myself. I am sad I cannot play Eleven and First Person Tennis anymore, they are xtremely well done simulators, some of the best you can find in VR. But not for the G2, sorry.

I take a break now and cry a little.

If you have it, Wreckfest. It has no native VR support, but I run it on the very biggets movie screen via Virtual Desktop, and since I do so, I relabelled it as Wreckfest 2.0 XXL. Its FANTASTIC, and one of the games that my system can run smoothly in this context. Whether yours can, you must find out. Its 2D, but on the giant movie screen, and that is a game changer already that is hard to be overestimated. In this way, this game gets enabled to show how visually beautiful and stunning it really is - you just do not see that on a normal small monitor.

Thats the titles all that I tried and still play in VR, I think. I had some stuff refunded, this I do nto oist here.

My best tip is: start with youtube and Virtual Desktop (and the moviehalls from the workshop, they are free except the biggest HIMAXX screen), and Google Earth. Check the post on the movie screens I did some days ago, page 7 of this thread.
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