US Politics Thread 2021-24

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by August

Well strictly speaking it's a human embryo from the moment of conception on up to 8 weeks when they start calling it a human fetus so it's a human throughout its entire 9 month gestation.

On the other hand the six week mark doesn't seem to have any special significance in it's development at all. It would be an artificial cut-off point at best.

My understanding is that at that time the baby's heartbeat is detectible. Which is why most "heartbeat" laws prohibit abortion on demand after that time in the pregnancy.

[Buddahaid]

MAGA Republican backer Guo Wengui was just arrested and criminally charged for engaging in a $1 billion fraudulent investment scheme. This is Steve Bannon's buddy.

Also, the first criminal indictment of a POTUS, or ex POTUS in this case, will likely happen next week.

[August]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

MAGA Republican backer Guo Wengui was just arrested and criminally charged for engaging in a $1 billion fraudulent investment scheme. This is Steve Bannon's buddy.

Also, the first criminal indictment of a POTUS, or ex POTUS in this case, will likely happen next week.

You've been saying that for six years Dude, when you ever going to be right? As a prognosticator of Trumpian doom you don't inspire much confidence.

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Sweet. But the law has been campaigned for by both the ultra conservative catholic church in Poland and the PiS party, both of which are dominated by classical patriarchalic structures. I think both Polish catholocism and the PiS are really insuspicious of promoting modern feminism or sexual licentiousness (what goes on inside the heads of these men is nobody's business... LOL)

I was speaking more along the lines of the doctor ignoring the Hippocratic Oath along with the law.

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

That went unanswered. Pulling money from school lunch programs. Wealthy people like Bret Favre taking five million in TARP money to build an indoor volleyball court while 80% of the poor that apply can't get funding, calling for Medicaid cuts, giving lip service to protecting children in school from mass shooters, etc.

Of course your comment wasn't addressed the way you wanted, it wasn't germane to the current topic.

[Rockstar]

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by MaDef

I was speaking more along the lines of the doctor ignoring the Hippocratic Oath along with the law.

Almost no doctor swears the Hippocratic Oath anymore, or signs the Heidelberg Declaration as a substitute; neither is mandatory for employment anywhere. At least in Germany. That comes from, let's say, a romantic age.

[mapuc]

One of my American friend use to post some issues from a FB-page called
Occupy Democrats.

I'm speechless - We are witnessing hardcore hate towards the Republican.

Wonder how much of it is true, almost true or not true ?

No doubt the GOP must have a similar FB-page

Markus

[August]

Originally Posted by mapuc

One of my American friend use to post some issues from a FB-page called
Occupy Democrats.

I'm speechless - We are witnessing hardcore hate towards the Republican.

Wonder how much of it is true, almost true or not true ?

No doubt the GOP must have a similar FB-page

Markus

If there is it's been heavily censored.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by August

You've been saying that for six years Dude, when you ever going to be right? As a prognosticator of Trumpian doom you don't inspire much confidence.

So what? It’s taken all that time for the legal process to work. I think you will be surprised at how many legal proceedings start to bear fruit this year. Trump’s plans at this stage will be attempts to delay further into 2024 but a few lawsuits will go to trial this year.

[August]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

So what? It’s taken all that time for the legal process to work. I think you will be surprised at how many legal proceedings start to bear fruit this year. Trump’s plans at this stage will be attempts to delay further into 2024 but a few lawsuits will go to trial this year.

So Team Blue is now reduced to hoping for a successful LAWSUIT to finally bring Bad Orange Man down?

Please forgive my skepticism but Trumps enemies have thrown just about everything possible at him the last 6 years. Increasingly desperate and obviously partisan driven, every attempt, every one, has gone down in embarrassing failure. Sexual assault allegations, accusations of racism, Crossfire Hurricane, Russian collusion, Mafia ties, Muller investigation, Ukraine-gate, Jan 6, yada yada yada, the list goes on.

The GoP has several potential candidates who might be able to beat Biden and I think that it's time for a fresh face in the oval office so I won't mind if your side finally manages to connect with one these increasingly ridiculous haymakers but given your track record, meh.

[August]

Originally Posted by MaDef

My understanding is that at that time the baby's heartbeat is detectible. Which is why most "heartbeat" laws prohibit abortion on demand after that time in the pregnancy.

That's still pretty arbitrary i'd say. It's not like a heartbeat means that it could survive outside the womb.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by August

So Team Blue is now reduced to hoping for a successful LAWSUIT to finally bring Bad Orange Man down?

Please forgive my skepticism but Trumps enemies have thrown just about everything possible at him the last 6 years. Increasingly desperate and obviously partisan driven, every attempt, every one, has gone down in embarrassing failure. Sexual assault allegations, accusations of racism, Crossfire Hurricane, Russian collusion, Mafia ties, Muller investigation, Ukraine-gate, Jan 6, yada yada yada, the list goes on.

The GoP has several potential candidates who might be able to beat Biden and I think that it's time for a fresh face in the oval office so I won't mind if your side finally manages to connect with one these increasingly ridiculous haymakers but given your track record, meh.

No, it's pretty much just holding the little man to the law.

[August]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

No, it's pretty much just holding the little man to the law.

Yeah no matter how much you need to twist and pervert the law to get at him. FBI Investigations based on information they knew to be false. Figmentary anonymous whistleblowers, Encouraging a riot then calling it an insurrection, partisan hacks lying like dogs in the dirt, all used to hold him to the "law" and so far it has all failed.

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by August

That's still pretty arbitrary i'd say. It's not like a heartbeat means that it could survive outside the womb.

Technically, so is Abortion on demand. Nor would it even be a question if the procedure was limited to address valid medical issues.

[Rockstar]