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Old 11-12-23, 03:45 PM   #196
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I onc eheard in a lecture that somnewhere in New Zealand they have a psychiatric hospital where they heal thweir patient wioth depression, schizophrenia dsn more, by using not pdsyahcotherpay and pharfamceiutckal drugs ( a swamp...), but exclusively with nutrition and supplementation therapy. And form severla German lectures I learned that one cna understand neurodegnerative didease asd well as psychiatric conditions as inflammations of the brain, again being caused malnutrition and lack of vitamines and minerals. And when I studied psyhcology ion the nineties we ha done professor who tried to cautiously prepare us for the truth of that as psychologists are professiuonal needs in therapy are maybe revealed as not needed since various mental health conditions are responsive to chemical intervention and - supplements intervention, not so much to talking and behaviour training. Precondition for such models being true is that mental status must have a material/chemical equivalent in the neurolgical status, in the hardware. And I think that is the case.
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Old 11-22-23, 07:18 AM   #198
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Old 11-30-23, 04:13 AM   #199
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I completed my new to-go-to book about debunking the myths about unhealthy animal fats and healthy plant seed oils that have assaulted the food regimens around the world and caused a global pandemic of obesity, diabetes and coronary heart disease from the US and Cenntral Latin America over Europe and the Middle East to India, China and much of the Far East. Whereever SAD, the Standard American Diet, raises its ugly, candy-sweet head, it causes - in the end: murderous - troubles and deaster for populations' health levels. Its by Nina Teichholz (think I earlier linked a video of her), and was 8-9 years ago the top of the NYT bestseller list. A compelling read, exposing the criminal energy behind all that fraudulent science as well as erratic science that forgets too often about its intrinsic problems like publication biases, and other factors corrupting science. "The method of science is the method of bold conjectures and ingenious and severe attempts to refute them", wrote science philosopher Karl Popper. Since 3-4 years I am now diving deeper and deeper into the field of ecotrophology and according medicine, but what I see there is that some of the most profound and basic principles of scientific methodology get - mostly intentionally - violated over and over again (or just take Covid vaccine and policy justification, for that matter...). Industrial profit greed and 7th-Day-Adventist sectarianism add to the overall mess.



Science is in deep, deep troubles - and not just since Coiivid, but it already started decades earlier. The worrying fact is that science and politics conspire to propagate politically wanted goals because politics also gets fundamentally corrupted by corporate interest - and beyond that gets mainly run by stupid amateurs not knowing nothing about anything.

The Big Fat Surprise - Why Butter, Meat & Cheese Belong in a Healthy Diet, by Nina Teichholz, Simon&Schuster 2014, ~480 p.


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Today or tomorrow is the day - 90 Days Carnivore Challenge!




Yum yum. I have not only lost several kilos in weight and feel excellent, but also turned into a meat expert and steak specialist.
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Have a curry ya bloody heathen
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^ And why would I not? I would only sort out the veggies (especially pineapple, I hate it, and not just on pizza), and I also wave goodbye to rice. Actually I love the taste of good curry spice and also like the dish of same name, and tikka masala.
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Tikka Masala is a girlies dish, you need a Madras or a Vindaloo
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4 days after I had finished the 90 days, I decided to do an experiment for another week, a counter-test. From December 11th to yesterday I put the Carnivore Diet on hold, and went back to eating as before: bread for breakfast, coffee, 1-2 full beers with dinner, pasta, pizza, potatoes, vegetables (without any desire...), in short: I ate as before, but kept the snacks short, but I snacked. I didn't have any soft drinks, not even before. One piece of marzipan a day, the size of my thumb, or a bar of chocolate, not more. Meat once in these 7 days, minced meat as spaghetti bolognese, nothing else. No cream, butter as I wanted it on bread, olive oil again. Bananas, apples, kiwi, one of each of the three per day.

I feel much worse. My head is working slowly, my reflexes have suffered badly, I'm sluggish, even on my feet, I notice it when I play table tennis. I can only concentrate for a short time and with much more effort, whereas in the last three months I was completely clear and focused, and on some days I didn't know where to put my energy. I've gained 4 kilos in 7 days, but it feels like 14 kg when I climb stairs and the joints in my toes hurt. My sense of balance on the bike has suffered. I'm sleepy during the day but don't sleep so well at night. During the 90 days I only needed 5 hours sleep and slept well. I am listless.

You often hear that carnivores feel crappy if they allow even one Sinner'S Day every few weeks, so crappy that they decide it's not worth it. The massive increase in carbs to about what is recommended to us as healthy, even necessary - honestly feels like downright poisoning, like a detriment, in contrast to 90 days on a carnivore diet. The vegetables are repulsive, more so than before the 90 days (I never liked veggies much anyway already before, but now I am really "horrified" by them ).

It's interesting to experience this so clearly for myself, so I don't regret this experiment, but now it's over and I'm returning to the carnivore style. On Christmas Night'S Sunday I'll have our family raclette, because it's a tradition, potatoes with lots of fatty cheese, otherwise: just get the ****ing carbs out quickly.

I ate 8 eggs tonight and a huge mountain of fatty cheese. I felt better straight away afterwards, mentally. I felt much more satisfied and balanced, I mean on a psychic level. I just dont want that old eatig n stuff anymore, and both my body and soul signal clearly they do not want it either anymore and its not good for us. I guess I'll have steak for breakfast tomorrow and again in the evening.

And my digestion was no longer good either, lots of volume, everything was greasy and it also stank badly, 1-2 times a day. I had mild intestinal cramps for two days, a slight inflammation like I used to have when I had bread from the bakery. What carnivore experts say is true: crap in: crap out. During the 90 days I had to climb on the porcellaine throne only every couple of days, it didn't stink and was so little in volume that I could have carried it away with a single spoon. So, again, a huge difference here, too.

I'll get back to you when all the symptoms have returned to normal, as to report how long it took.

I'm tempted to just smack the next dietician or doctor who gives me the usual dietary advice that is so mainstream, without further comment. How can we be told so much stupid crap...?
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Old 12-20-23, 05:13 PM   #206
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Good read. I consider myself to get into that to 100 percent. Did you take vitamin supplement as before .
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Good read. I consider myself to get into that to 100 percent. Did you take vitamin supplement as before .
Not as before, I leave some out now, mainly plant-based supplements I took to help with digestive processes and fat metabolism (fatty liver ope ning issues).

The logic behind ongoing supplementation is that
a.) we are today exposed to toxines that centuries ago did not exist in our food and environment (at least not in these modern concentrations), and did not hack away at our health and genes, and
b.) even grass-fed animals would eat grass growing on our exploited soils and therefore they are probably lacking the ammounts of nutrients that in previous times they may have had, and therefore this decline may be reflected in the metabolism of the animals as well, and their fat quality. Not to mention that in the West most cattle is fed with grain, corn, and soy dirt. Which all is not species-adequate food for them. Grass is. Corn and soy is not. And the difference shows in the fatty acid quality and balance.Feed them crap, and see the omega 6 levels rising steeply and the omega.3 levels declining.


Of the relevance of the latter argument of mine I am not absolutely sure, of the first I am. I mean the fatty acid things is real, but to what degree it is true and affects our health I am not certain about, its about the total ammounts of omega 6 and 3, and this question is being debated.However, even grain fed beef is healthy, but you may want to supplemrnt Omega 3. Dr. Berry and Dr. Chaffee do somewhat disagree on other supplementations and say carnivores need less vitamins in general and must not supplement, but I go with these two arguments I made, especially the first one. How toxines can affect metabolic cycles of nutrients I learned with the iodine metabolism which can heavily suffer from intoxication with other halogenes, blocking iodine from docking to cells or getting inside cells, getting transported in the body. Also, a third reason is that we know from trials and studies as well as anecdotes, since decades, that certain vitamins , namely C and D, have almost miraculous powers if you take them in real heavy doses that to recommend the pharmaceutical money makers would prefer to throw you into prison for. This is the reason why in the 80s there was a short period why in the US the public selling of vitamine C was prohibited. It threatened the profits of the industry. Public pressure reversed that in parts but I think vitamin C still can be had only in ridiculously low doses so that it is difficult if not impossible to get it in therapeutically useful doses. At least it was like that for some time after the prohibition ended. And until today many hospitals' adminstrations have prohibited it in most ERs to be held ready for infusions! Thats is not a scandal, that is a cynical crime in my book. Health concerns have absolutely nothing to do with it! THERE IS NO MONEY IN VITAMIN C ...!!! That is the reason they suppress vitamin C. Its also a lie that there are no studies and no academical papers on it. If you use Pub Med, you will see - I last counted late summer, early autumn - that there are 89,000 entries on vitamin C, reaching back to the early 40s! - I take 3x or even 4x 1000mg liposomale vitamin C, which has many advantages over normal vitamine c powder - that dose of 3000 mg liposomale vitamin C equals 8000-12000 of normal vitamine C (and stays much longer in the blood, and avoids all the digestive problems).

So, to finally nail your question, I now take vitamin A (5,000 IU), all vitamin Bs (various solid doses), liposomale Vitamin C (4x 1,000 mg), Vitamine D (20,000 IU), gamma and delta Tocotrienole (vitamin Es these are), vitamine K2 (1,000 mcgr), boron (12mg, aims at the bones, many do not have it on their radar), zinc (25-50 mgr), magnesium (3x 650 mgr, a third of that only bio-available, plus so-called magnesium-oil on the legs' skin, which is magnesium-salt dissolved in water, this way I avoid the digestive system being too irritated by all that magnesium) , selenium (300 mcgr), iodine (12 mg , in the form of Lugol), ubiquinol (400 mg, not to mistake with ubiquinon), 15ml fish oil that gives me 5.2 gr of omega 3 (EPA, DHA, DPA), plenty of salt (!). Over the winter season with people all around sneezing in my neck, I also take NAC and quercetine. - I havent had a flu or cold since several years. Before, all my life, i had them 6-8 times a year! I also phased out my blood pressure drugs which I took for almost 15 years. I do not need them anymore!

I eat no more veggies, no fruits, almost never grain-based products like bread, noodles, pizza dough. I love pizza and bread, its a loss. The rest is not. Note carnivore diet is not only good due to what it gives you (all you need, essntiually), but also due to what it prevents you to eat, namely plant toxines and carbohydrates and plant seed oils.

I suffered for 25 years from a mysterious nervous desease that never got correctly diagnosed, and meant coming and going phases of pain of the likes as if you had hot water in your veins and arteries, or heating wires in your limbs. Really, not nice. They told me I would probably die early due to neurological degeneration, and I believed it for many years, but they had no clue what it was, and played guessing games: All that - is gone. GONE. I had pains for many years of my life, serious pains. Since 3-4 years no more. Since I started all this.

Over the corona years I became a much healthier man! LOL - Oh the irony.

Its the inner doctor that heals. Our bodies have the library of functions that we summarise under the title "immune system", to deal with germs and infections and intoxications, since millenia. The ancient Greek healers said: "Thy food shall be thy medicine". I know now what made me so miserable: too many calories, too few nutrients. I was severely malnourished. Keep crap out, at least limit it strictly. Get good stuff in that is adequate food for our species. We are carnivores, and we can show that biochemically, evolutionary-biologically, metabolically, anatomically, anthropologically. We may show the behaviour of opportunistic omnivores, but we are by physical nature and essence and we remain to be carnivores, since at least 2 million years, probably twice as long if not longer. With the beginning of farming, settling down and eating grain and vegetables, the physical degeneration of our bodies began, we lost hbeioght, strength, physis, endurance, immunology, and our jaw bones shrunk. The next time you see teenagers with braces, you might think about all this. And maybe get the classical book by Weston Price: Nutrition and Physical Degeneration.
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My vitamin is vegetable capsel and are pretty good considering the fact I'm not currently going in to meatstyle". After Xmas day's I will start up. Now is a question concern if the vitamin capsel is to avoid due to my future intake?
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Certainly not for the reason you mention.

I could give endless details, but in fact I just would repeat myself. I have written and mentioned all I could say many times in this thread. Read it backwards, from "now " to "back then", I now know more than KI did 3 years ago, maybe I alered some info, details, for example I had to correct my initial post on artifical sweeteners, and also have risen my dose for vitamin D several times. Take my newer comments before the older.

I assume by vitamine pill you mean a mutli vitmiane poill, Consider to take nutrients in individual preparations. A solid fail-safe minimum basis would include vitamine B complex, C liposomale), D3, K2, Zinc, Magnesium, Selenium, Iodine, Omega 3.

Avoid plant seed oils, fructose, glucose, margarine, transfats, cereals, fruits, and at least limit veggies. Keep carbs low. No soft drinks. No unfermented milk. No bread, if you can avoid it.

Eggs are fantastic, good also is butter, gee, bacon, cheese, fatty meat, fatty fish, cheese, cream.

Saturated fat does not make people fat or ill. Carbohydrates do. Push the sliders in your favour, accoridng to myour choice and motivation. The more positive slider movement,s the better for you.

Our modenr diet rukles are just aroudn a hunbdred yera sold, and sicne aorudn a hundred years civilizaitonal deseases started to become pandemic. Before, people ate like I mentioned, and they were much healthier, and lean.

Our modern diet rules are WRONG. The doctors tell us lies - and Kelloggs and Coca Cola anyway.

Dont be afraid of salt or cholesterol, saturated fats and animal fats.

Be afraid of statins and refined sugar, HFCS and oat drinks, soy and nutrient deficient veganism and vegetarianism.

We do not need carbs. Period. The little glucose the body indeed needs - is produced by the liver, production-on-demand.

Overdosing protein is theoretically possible, but practically almost never happans as long as you are not a bodybuilder eating white powders for silly reasons.

Fats are essential, we need them, we burn them, we live by them.

If we eat only plants, we stay deficitary, and do not get all we essentially need for survival. Supplementation is mandatory if you want to live. 17 out of 20 vegans even then cannot avoid getting seriously sick to a degree that they must give up.

Meat does provide us with everything we need. Not always at opötimal levels, thogh, I suspect, but: its all there. Suzpoplenetian is not mandatory, but optional.

How can they call a vegan diet that leaves us with the mandatory need to supplement - a "healthy, species-adequate diet"...? Obviously it cannot be that, else we would not need to supplement not only for optimizing our statusk but for merely surviving. Meat, fish, aniaml products do give us all we need. It is our species-adequate, natural diet. AND WE ARE FULLY ADAPTED TO IT.

We are not adapted to eat grains (ATI sensitivity: affects every living human on Earth), veggies (deficitary, and gives us toxines to which we react with deseases, cancer and allergies), fruits (more toxines, and an overdose of fructose). And it shows! Insuline resistence drives obesity drives vulnerability for the full broadside of civilizational deseases. Follow the official diet guidelines by the government authorities. I guarantee you its only a question of time until most of you get ill from it. These guideline smean it well, but not wiht you. They mean it well with the cereals industry, Big Pharma, the agriculture lobby owning the big monocultures, the sugar lobby...

Stop complying. Claim back your responsibility for yourself. That is moral behaviour. Only sheep and cattle walk on all four.
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Yes it's a Multi M but not Omega in it.

+B-Vitamin in a separate cap
+Magnesium 3×800
+D-Vitamin 5K
It's a start.
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