[Project] Accurate voice commands (Please share your knowledge)

Aarnoman · 03-10-13, 09:19 PM

Hello fellow Kaleuns

I've recently started a project to bring voice commands to silent hunter 3, specifically targeted at the German installation. This started due to the innaccuracies of SH3speech - which, granted is an awesome addon for an English installation - as it did not perform so well with the German language.

This is where my project comes in.
However, I have recently hit a bit of a brick wall in terms of commands. I am aiming to provice historically accurate commands - such as "drei mal äußerste kraft voraus" (Trans: 3 times massive speed ahead) instead of the 'Wahnsinning kraft voraus' (Trans: Insane speed ahead). The former is the command officially used by the Kriegsmarine, being equivelant to the English "full speed ahead".

However, I cannot find any more information in regards to the official (and perhaps even inofficial) commands Kaleuns used during Wartime. This is where you guys come in.

Please share any knowledge you have on the commands used during the war. Of particular importance are torpedo, submarine movement and flak/deckgun related commands.
Thank you all in advance

Mittelwaechter · 03-11-13, 07:06 AM

Well - there is a difference between the official - correct - orders to tell the engine room "all enginges full ahead", or the casual cool commrade tenor of "give us all we have".
On a U-Boot the official terms may have been used within the harbour area - under possible observance of any Kriegsmarine brass - but during the patrol it was common to ease and slang the commands.
In cases of insubordinance the superior felt back to the official terms, to stress the gravity of the situation.

I guess "three times full ahead" (drei mal aeusserste Kraft vorraus) relates to a vessel with three engines.
"Beide Maschinen/Diesel (or slang:Jockel) volle Kraft voraus!" would be apprpriate in our case.

Welcome aboard.

Aarnoman · 03-12-13, 12:17 AM

Thank you for your insight Mittelwächter. On that note, do you know any place listing either slang and/or official commands? I've been searching the web the past couple of days, and the most I could find was this on diving: http://www.uboatarchive.net/DivingRegulations.htm

You wouldn't happen to know of any other such documents? And please share some of the slang commonly used for commands regarding speed/diving/etc, or direct me to websites/articles.

Thank you again for your help.

Sailor Steve · 03-12-13, 04:01 AM

Aren't these the correct orders?

I've been using the Das Boot Sound Mod since forever, and always thought they had it right.

Mittelwaechter · 03-12-13, 07:49 AM

Sorry, but I'm not aware of any listings of commands for use aboard a navy (Kriegsmarine) vessel - neither official nor slang.

Wikipedia has a listing of expressions and nicknames used in German soldier speek:
http://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/Verzei...ache#Wehrmacht

Watch "Das Boot" or "Duell im Atlantik" and maybe some German propaganda movies at Youtube. You'll catch one or the other command.

An old-fashioned public library will certainly have some nice readings about naval warfare - including used language and commands.

Gustav Schiebert · 03-12-13, 01:45 PM

Aarnoman - am I to take it that you're a native speaker? If so just as a matter of interest I'd love to find out what some of the other speaking bits are, like for when the guns are being manned, not enough crew in the engine room, plot a new course, are etc. I'm learning German but can't really work out what these are saying.

As for the commands, as has been pointed out orders like 'all ahead full' by definition tend to be shouted in the heat of battle so there's some variance. I've noticed DBSM has some discrepancies. This is what it should be in the textbooks:

1/5 - Kleine Fahrt
2/5 - Langsame Fahrt
3/5 - Halbe Fahrt (think this is Grosse Kraft in DBSM)
4/5 - Grosse Kraft (Volle?)
5/5 - Äusserste Kraft (Wahnsinning)

Have a look at this.

Preceded usually by "Beide/Backbord/Steuerbord Maschine" and followed by 'Voraus/Zurück" as appropriate. Personally I'd like to see 1,2,3 and 4/5 with the proper speeds spoken as above. I like the sound for silent speed, where they whisper it and then go to 90 rpm - I think ripped straight out of Das Boot.

But perhaps a shouted "give her everything she's got, chief!" for 5/5 speed. Glad someone else noticed this.

03-10-13, 09:19 PM	#1
Aarnoman Seaman Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 31 Downloads: 103 Uploads: 0	[Project] Accurate voice commands (Please share your knowledge) Hello fellow Kaleuns I've recently started a project to bring voice commands to silent hunter 3, specifically targeted at the German installation. This started due to the innaccuracies of SH3speech - which, granted is an awesome addon for an English installation - as it did not perform so well with the German language. This is where my project comes in. However, I have recently hit a bit of a brick wall in terms of commands. I am aiming to provice historically accurate commands - such as "drei mal äußerste kraft voraus" (Trans: 3 times massive speed ahead) instead of the 'Wahnsinning kraft voraus' (Trans: Insane speed ahead). The former is the command officially used by the Kriegsmarine, being equivelant to the English "full speed ahead". However, I cannot find any more information in regards to the official (and perhaps even inofficial) commands Kaleuns used during Wartime. This is where you guys come in. Please share any knowledge you have on the commands used during the war. Of particular importance are torpedo, submarine movement and flak/deckgun related commands. Thank you all in advance

03-11-13, 07:06 AM	#2
Mittelwaechter The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,304 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Well - there is a difference between the official - correct - orders to tell the engine room "all enginges full ahead", or the casual cool commrade tenor of "give us all we have". On a U-Boot the official terms may have been used within the harbour area - under possible observance of any Kriegsmarine brass - but during the patrol it was common to ease and slang the commands. In cases of insubordinance the superior felt back to the official terms, to stress the gravity of the situation. I guess "three times full ahead" (drei mal aeusserste Kraft vorraus) relates to a vessel with three engines. "Beide Maschinen/Diesel (or slang:Jockel) volle Kraft voraus!" would be apprpriate in our case. Welcome aboard. __________________ 10 happy wolves rear 90 blinded, ensnared sheep. 90 happy sheep banish the wolves. Arrest the 1% - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ6hg1oNeGE

03-12-13, 04:01 AM	#4
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Aren't these the correct orders? I've been using the Das Boot Sound Mod since forever, and always thought they had it right. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-12-13, 07:49 AM	#5
Mittelwaechter The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,304 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Sorry, but I'm not aware of any listings of commands for use aboard a navy (Kriegsmarine) vessel - neither official nor slang. Wikipedia has a listing of expressions and nicknames used in German soldier speek: http://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/Verzei...ache#Wehrmacht Watch "Das Boot" or "Duell im Atlantik" and maybe some German propaganda movies at Youtube. You'll catch one or the other command. An old-fashioned public library will certainly have some nice readings about naval warfare - including used language and commands. __________________ 10 happy wolves rear 90 blinded, ensnared sheep. 90 happy sheep banish the wolves. Arrest the 1% - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ6hg1oNeGE

03-12-13, 01:45 PM	#6
Gustav Schiebert Sparky Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: AM52 Posts: 151 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Aarnoman - am I to take it that you're a native speaker? If so just as a matter of interest I'd love to find out what some of the other speaking bits are, like for when the guns are being manned, not enough crew in the engine room, plot a new course, are etc. I'm learning German but can't really work out what these are saying. As for the commands, as has been pointed out orders like 'all ahead full' by definition tend to be shouted in the heat of battle so there's some variance. I've noticed DBSM has some discrepancies. This is what it should be in the textbooks: 1/5 - Kleine Fahrt 2/5 - Langsame Fahrt 3/5 - Halbe Fahrt (think this is Grosse Kraft in DBSM) 4/5 - Grosse Kraft (Volle?) 5/5 - Äusserste Kraft (Wahnsinning) Have a look at this. Preceded usually by "Beide/Backbord/Steuerbord Maschine" and followed by 'Voraus/Zurück" as appropriate. Personally I'd like to see 1,2,3 and 4/5 with the proper speeds spoken as above. I like the sound for silent speed, where they whisper it and then go to 90 rpm - I think ripped straight out of Das Boot. But perhaps a shouted "give her everything she's got, chief!" for 5/5 speed. Glad someone else noticed this. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] GWX 3 + OLC Gold + 100% Realism + Commander "Attack! Always attack!"

03-12-13, 12:17 AM	#3
Aarnoman Seaman Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 31 Downloads: 103 Uploads: 0	Thank you for your insight Mittelwächter. On that note, do you know any place listing either slang and/or official commands? I've been searching the web the past couple of days, and the most I could find was this on diving: http://www.uboatarchive.net/DivingRegulations.htm You wouldn't happen to know of any other such documents? And please share some of the slang commonly used for commands regarding speed/diving/etc, or direct me to websites/articles. Thank you again for your help.