Here we go again-Ukraine once again

[Jimbuna]

Donald Trump has warned the world is heading for nuclear war if ‘stupid’ leaders aren’t careful, saying he would tell Vladimir Putin ‘we have far more powerful weapons than you’ if he were still in charge.

The former US president stuck to his assertion that he could have prevented the Russian invasion of Ukraine tonight in a heavily anticipated interview with Piers Morgan.

When asked if he threatened the Russian leader with US nuclear arms while in power, he refused to give a definitive answer but added: ‘I threatened him like he has never been threatened before.

‘I told him what our response would be, and he said, “Really”. And I said, “Really”.’
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...out&li=BBoPWjQ

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Cardboard and egg cartons as armour. While the real thing was sold elsewhere to make Putin and his oligarchs rich..
And Russia calls Ukraine corrupt

Almost feel sorry for russian soldiers.

They are just too late, thats all. In the medieval, in either China or Japan there was a time when they ideed used - paper armour. A sheet of paper was folded several times until it had half the size of a handpalm. Now, many such scales were made, and even waxed/oiled, to help them resist a bit longer to rain, the only big enemy to this armor: water. Many such scales were made, and stitched together like European and Middle Eastern scaled armour made of metal and leather. Just that this was lighter, faster to make, and cheap, and did not exhaust with its weight the soldier wearing it. Surprise, surprise: this paper armour was EXTREMELY effective against sword strikes and arrow's tips! A fully swung blow with a sharp sword could not cut through it! Arrows as used in that time in that place could not penetrate it!

[Jimbuna]

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by Skybird

They are just too late, thats all. In the medieval, in either China or Japan there was a time when they ideed used - paper armour. [...] A fully swung blow with a sharp sword could not cut through it! Arrows as used in that time in that place could not penetrate it!

All good and well but we are speaking of supposed reactive armour on tanks using special pockets loaded with explosives, but instead filled with egg cartons..

[Jimbuna]

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Catfish

All good and well but we are speaking of supposed reactive armour on tanks using special pockets loaded with explosives, but instead filled with egg cartons..

You mean - there is a difference...?


Well, the way Russia proideuces its reative amrour maybe is indicative for other military production as well. Cheap, cheaper, the cheapest. Somehow it must eb expok,ained how a country with a defence budget less than 15% bigger only than that of the UK, France or Germany nevertheelss can field military forces with numerical numbers outclassing that of all Europe.

Serious, it makes no sense if they publish tables with yearly national defence budgets from all world - and they do not standardize these nubmers to counter the different production costs, loans for factory workers, national market competition and different levels of corruption, and the state leader being able or not to simply command what gets produced and what not. If all this gets reflected, then for example the Chinese and Russian defence budget would be massively, very massively corrected upwards. Probably by factors.

[Jimbuna]

UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres has called for a ceasefire in Ukraine ahead of talks with Russia's Vladimir Putin later.

Speaking after a meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, Guterres says he is visiting Moscow as a "messenger of peace"

It comes after Lavrov warned of a "real" threat of World War Three breaking out.

Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba has dismissed this, saying Lavrov is just trying to "scare the world off supporting Ukraine"

And UK Armed Forces minister James Heappey says he does not think there is an imminent threat of escalation.

However Heappey says he supports strikes on targets within Russian territory by Ukrainian forces to disrupt supply lines.

Fresh explosions have been reported in the Moldovan breakaway region of Transnistria, which neighbours Ukraine.

[mapuc]

A few input from what I have heard and read in Danish newspaper.

1. We are in fact at war with Russia we fight it by proxy.

2. The threat about WWIII could mean that Russia is preparing an exit from Ukraine Russia know they will gain nothing with a war with NATO.

Markus

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by mapuc

A few input from what I have heard and read in Danish newspaper.

1. We are in fact at war with Russia we fight it by proxy.

2. The threat about WWIII could mean that Russia is preparing an exit from Ukraine Russia know they will gain nothing with a war with NATO.

Markus

1. It was already a proxy war before the invasion.

2. Let's hope.

[Dargo]

U.S. intel helped Ukraine protect air defenses, shoot down a Russian plane carrying hundreds of troops
Ukrainian forces have used specific coordinates shared by the U.S. to direct fire on Russian positions and aircraft, current and former officials tell NBC News.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat...arry-rcna26015

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Cardboard and egg cartons as armour. While the real thing was sold elsewhere to make Putin and his oligarchs rich..
And Russia calls Ukraine corrupt



Almost feel sorry for russian soldiers.

This is the normal in Russian army, the higher ranks can steal the most.

[Dargo]

Poland's state-owned gas and oil company PGNiG says Gazprom will stop delivering gas to Poland as of tomorrow morning. Earlier, Polish media reported, based on anonymous sources, that gas deliveries from Russia have been stopped. According to PGNiG, Gazprom is in breach of contract and will take steps to restore gas deliveries.

Poland's climate minister, in response to reports in Polish media, already said in a tweet https://twitter.com/moskwa_anna/stat...85178663817216 that Poland's gas storages are 76 percent full and that Poland need not fear a lack of gas. Currently, Poland gets about 60 percent of its gas from Russia. The contract with Gazprom for gas through the Yamal pipeline would be terminated at the end of this year anyway on Poland's initiative. In October, a pipeline is expected to be ready whereby Poland gets gas through Norway. Poland is also putting more effort into liquefied gas.

The halt to gas deliveries via the Yamal pipeline may have to do with Poland's refusal to pay for Russian gas directly or indirectly in rubles. A few weeks back, Russian President Putin decided by decree that countries buying Russian gas must open a ruble account at the bank of gas supplier Gazprom.

That bank will then convert deposits in euros or dollars into rubles. Recipients of gas are against that construction, because their contracts with Russia often include the option of paying in their own currency. Poland today reiterated its unwillingness to comply with the Russian demand.

Poland also put fifty Russian oligarchs and companies including Gazprom on a sanctions list today. That list comes on top of sanctions agreed upon in the EU context.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Dargo

U.S. intel helped Ukraine protect air defenses, shoot down a Russian plane carrying hundreds of troops
Ukrainian forces have used specific coordinates shared by the U.S. to direct fire on Russian positions and aircraft, current and former officials tell NBC News.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat...arry-rcna26015

Your comment and the article made me remember a scene from The Hunt for Red October...

I try to remember what this officer said to Dr Ryan while they were standing outside... and looking out on the other warships.

Markus

[Dargo]

After Poland, Bulgaria is also confronted with Russia's shutting off of its gas supply. Bulgaria has been told by the Russian gas producer Gazprom that as of tomorrow no more gas will be delivered, the Bulgarian Energy Minister has announced. The minister added that Gazprom's demand that henceforth the delivered gas be paid for in rubles amounts to a breach of contract. Also in the case of Poland, the cessation of gas deliveries seems to be related to the Polish refusal to settle in rubles.

[Catfish]

What if the whole world just declares war on Russia.