[WIP] Wolves of the Kaiser:1914-1918 Mod - Page 121

Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt · 06-21-16, 11:20 AM

IABL I found the skin of the UE-1 type boats and these are their skins:
the first was used in the Atlantic Ocean and the second was used in the Mediterranean sea and Arctic ocean. I don't know if the second skin type was used in other boats, but in my opinion it was used.
(sorry if the picture is too big)

iambecomelife · 06-26-16, 11:48 AM

Thank you! In WWII the white and gray submarines assigned to Russian Convoy attacks were nicknamed the "Ice Devils", and their white camoflage was very effective - in one case, a British freighter crew was wondering why an iceberg kept following their ship - and were horrified to find out that it was one of the notorious "ice devils" closing in for the kill! I will be on the lookout for any other WWI arctic paint schemes.

iambecomelife · 06-27-16, 02:03 AM

Did a speed modeling experiment - how far can I get on a ship in two days? Usual disclaimers - this is in the early stages - pretty basic, medium detail stuff.

After further research into how important the Mediterranean theatre was, I decided to place a greater emphasis on warships that would have operated in the area.

And I'm not sure what the designers were thinking, with mixed 12" and 10.8" guns - if you ask me, it needlessly complicated ammo supplies, and meant less rounds per calibre. Most other countries' pre-dreadnoughts had four 12" guns instead.

MGR1 · 06-27-16, 07:09 AM

Neat!

Is that going to be the Jauréguiberry?

Mike.

iambecomelife · 06-28-16, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MGR1

Neat!

Is that going to be the Jauréguiberry?

Mike.

Wow! You guys are impossible to stump...I thought nobody would know what ship she was! Great job...

Ugly old girl but she was still good for convoy escort...lol... "Jaguar Berry", I call her. XD

MGR1 · 06-28-16, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iambecomelife

Wow! You guys are impossible to stump...I thought nobody would know what ship she was! Great job...

Ugly old girl but she was still good for convoy escort...lol... "Jaguar Berry", I call her. XD

A-ha!

I did some Google-Fu and checked what the early French pre-dreadnoughts looked like. I knew i couldn't be the Bouvet as the turret arrangement along the side didn't match, along with the masts and funnel spacing. Turns out it was fairly easy to compare funnels, masts, turret arrangements and general "look" as the five earliest ships were all unique.

Mike.

iambecomelife · 06-29-16, 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MGR1

A-ha!

I did some Google-Fu and checked what the early French pre-dreadnoughts looked like. I knew i couldn't be the Bouvet as the turret arrangement along the side didn't match, along with the masts and funnel spacing. Turns out it was fairly easy to compare funnels, masts, turret arrangements and general "look" as the five earliest ships were all unique.

Mike.

Hey; don't sell yourself short - most people could barely identify famous WWI ships like "Iron Duke" or "Lion"; even with Google - this ugly old lady is about as obscure as you can get (although she had many important escort and shore bombardment missions).

The hull cross section is not correct because it's easier to texture before you add the correct slope - once texturing is done I will give it the exact "turtle back" shape that the real ship had.

iambecomelife · 07-01-16, 05:31 AM

More progress. And our mod's spokesman puts in a rare appearance, after a hard day bullying the kitten.

XTBilly · 07-01-16, 07:07 AM

You're doing an AMAZING job!!

Congratulations!!

07-01-16, 07:16 AM

The cat's modeled wonderful ...

Just kidding - your work look great.

Best regards

Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt · 07-01-16, 01:17 PM

regarding allied ships, at page 103 you showed that you was making the Drake class cruiser; how it's going with it?

MGR1 · 07-02-16, 09:56 AM

Coming along nicely, IABL!

Bonny cat too!

Mike.

Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt · 07-04-16, 08:02 AM

IABL I think that I found a great news for you: in this site ( http://www.naval-history.net/XGW-Ger...914-1918.htm#1 ) there are all information about The organizazion of The imperial Germania navy with the informations about all u-boat flottillas. I hope it will be useful for you.

iambecomelife · 07-06-16, 05:03 PM

Thank you very much for the link! It is extremely useful because it shows which submarines were in what flotilla at a glance.

That way, in campaign mode, I can make sure the available U-Boats for each flotilla are correct.

The page also shows how unready Germany was for a submarine campaign early on - even though most people think of Germany as "the" submarine nation. The delays, lack of weaponry, etc I have read about in research for this mod are truly amazing.

A lot of it seemed to be because to some elite German admirals and politicians, submarines were just less prestigious than big battleships and battlecruisers. Like the British, many German strategists did not understand that the naval war would be about supply lines and blockades - not huge battleships pounding each other.

In my opinion, a decisive German defeat at Jutland or Dogger Bank might have forced the German Navy to behave more logically - allocating more research and funds to submarine construction, sooner. Instead, the tactical victory over Beatty's battlecruisers blinded them to simple facts - for instance, battleships are useless if you can't keep your nation well fed and provisioned. The successful British blockade was directly responsible for the naval mutinies that destroyed the HSF and took Germany out of the war.

Admiral Halsey · 07-06-16, 05:29 PM

Honestly if Germany had built up the sub forces instead of the battleline once the war started they could've possible done upwards of 1,200,000 tons a month which would've been just enough more to have starved Britain out of the war during those dangerous days in early 1917.

06-21-16, 11:20 AM	#1801
Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt 中国水兵 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Trieste/Siena Italy Posts: 286 Downloads: 164 Uploads: 0	IABL I found the skin of the UE-1 type boats and these are their skins: the first was used in the Atlantic Ocean and the second was used in the Mediterranean sea and Arctic ocean. I don't know if the second skin type was used in other boats, but in my opinion it was used. (sorry if the picture is too big) __________________ ALFA TAU!!! Rapidi Ed Invisibili-the campaign (an italian mod for SH4)

06-26-16, 11:48 AM	#1802
iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,585 Downloads: 297 Uploads: 0	Thank you! In WWII the white and gray submarines assigned to Russian Convoy attacks were nicknamed the "Ice Devils", and their white camoflage was very effective - in one case, a British freighter crew was wondering why an iceberg kept following their ship - and were horrified to find out that it was one of the notorious "ice devils" closing in for the kill! I will be on the lookout for any other WWI arctic paint schemes. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/

06-27-16, 02:03 AM	#1803
iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,585 Downloads: 297 Uploads: 0	Did a speed modeling experiment - how far can I get on a ship in two days? Usual disclaimers - this is in the early stages - pretty basic, medium detail stuff. After further research into how important the Mediterranean theatre was, I decided to place a greater emphasis on warships that would have operated in the area. And I'm not sure what the designers were thinking, with mixed 12" and 10.8" guns - if you ask me, it needlessly complicated ammo supplies, and meant less rounds per calibre. Most other countries' pre-dreadnoughts had four 12" guns instead. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/

06-27-16, 07:09 AM	#1804
MGR1 Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland, United Kingdom Posts: 956 Downloads: 252 Uploads: 0	Neat! Is that going to be the Jauréguiberry? Mike. __________________ "I am the battleship Jean Bart. This name originates from a certain 'respected' privateer... Yes? You want to know what privateers are? Hmph, they are pirates that rob openly under the banner of their country." Jean Bart from the mobile game Azur Lane.

07-01-16, 05:31 AM	#1808
iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,585 Downloads: 297 Uploads: 0	More progress. And our mod's spokesman puts in a rare appearance, after a hard day bullying the kitten. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/

07-01-16, 07:07 AM	#1809
XTBilly Officer Join Date: May 2009 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 242 Downloads: 157 Uploads: 0	You're doing an AMAZING job!! Congratulations!!

07-01-16, 07:16 AM	#1810
Bleiente Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	The cat's modeled wonderful ... Just kidding - your work look great. Best regards

07-01-16, 01:17 PM	#1811
Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt 中国水兵 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Trieste/Siena Italy Posts: 286 Downloads: 164 Uploads: 0	regarding allied ships, at page 103 you showed that you was making the Drake class cruiser; how it's going with it? __________________ ALFA TAU!!! Rapidi Ed Invisibili-the campaign (an italian mod for SH4)

07-02-16, 09:56 AM	#1812
MGR1 Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland, United Kingdom Posts: 956 Downloads: 252 Uploads: 0	Coming along nicely, IABL! Bonny cat too! Mike. __________________ "I am the battleship Jean Bart. This name originates from a certain 'respected' privateer... Yes? You want to know what privateers are? Hmph, they are pirates that rob openly under the banner of their country." Jean Bart from the mobile game Azur Lane.

07-04-16, 08:02 AM	#1813
Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt 中国水兵 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Trieste/Siena Italy Posts: 286 Downloads: 164 Uploads: 0	IABL I think that I found a great news for you: in this site ( http://www.naval-history.net/XGW-Ger...914-1918.htm#1 ) there are all information about The organizazion of The imperial Germania navy with the informations about all u-boat flottillas. I hope it will be useful for you. __________________ ALFA TAU!!! Rapidi Ed Invisibili-the campaign (an italian mod for SH4)

07-06-16, 05:03 PM	#1814
iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,585 Downloads: 297 Uploads: 0	Thank you very much for the link! It is extremely useful because it shows which submarines were in what flotilla at a glance. That way, in campaign mode, I can make sure the available U-Boats for each flotilla are correct. The page also shows how unready Germany was for a submarine campaign early on - even though most people think of Germany as "the" submarine nation. The delays, lack of weaponry, etc I have read about in research for this mod are truly amazing. A lot of it seemed to be because to some elite German admirals and politicians, submarines were just less prestigious than big battleships and battlecruisers. Like the British, many German strategists did not understand that the naval war would be about supply lines and blockades - not huge battleships pounding each other. In my opinion, a decisive German defeat at Jutland or Dogger Bank might have forced the German Navy to behave more logically - allocating more research and funds to submarine construction, sooner. Instead, the tactical victory over Beatty's battlecruisers blinded them to simple facts - for instance, battleships are useless if you can't keep your nation well fed and provisioned. The successful British blockade was directly responsible for the naval mutinies that destroyed the HSF and took Germany out of the war. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/

07-06-16, 05:29 PM	#1815
Admiral Halsey Best Admiral in the USN Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: USS Enterprise (CV-6) Posts: 1,740 Downloads: 298 Uploads: 0	Honestly if Germany had built up the sub forces instead of the battleline once the war started they could've possible done upwards of 1,200,000 tons a month which would've been just enough more to have starved Britain out of the war during those dangerous days in early 1917. __________________ "This is not a peace. It is an armistice for twenty years" - Ferdinand Foch on the Treaty of Versailles.(Boy was he ever right.)