[WIP] IRAI (Intelligent Random AI) - Page 8

Zedi · 07-12-10, 04:38 AM

Yesterday I got into a weird situation. Sunk Ark Royal then I was waiting at long distance for the escorts to calm down and leave the crime scene. After 3 hours later they were still circling and searching for me, so I decided to sneak out on silent running. After I was at the visual range limit, somehow one of the escorts got my track. This was the last time I saw the sky for the next 2 days.

No matter what I did, they were all over me. Decoys, all engines stop, slow running at max depth.. nothing worked. After 2 days I surfaced on max speed for few seconds just th refresh the air. Got badly damaged but I survived. But was no use, after the next 2 days I had to give up, they even called reinforcements with fresh loads of DC's.

Now.. this is pretty realistic and usually in this case death is the final result. The only problem is that this happened in 39' where the detection tools were pretty primitive. This scenario in 43'-45' era is realistic, but in 39... not sure. Also, this was a usual escort group with no hunter-killer ships like the Black Swan in it.

Anyway, huge improvement on the gameplay, no doubt about. It's almost a different game.

TheDarkWraith · 07-12-10, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Magnum

Yesterday I got into a weird situation. Sunk Ark Royal then I was waiting at long distance for the escorts to calm down and leave the crime scene. After 3 hours later they were still circling and searching for me, so I decided to sneak out on silent running. After I was at the visual range limit, somehow one of the escorts got my track. This was the last time I saw the sky for the next 2 days.

No matter what I did, they were all over me. Decoys, all engines stop, slow running at max depth.. nothing worked. After 2 days I surfaced on max speed for few seconds just th refresh the air. Got badly damaged but I survived. But was no use, after the next 2 days I had to give up, they even called reinforcements with fresh loads of DC's.

Now.. this is pretty realistic and usually in this case death is the final result. The only problem is that this happened in 39' where the detection tools were pretty primitive. This scenario in 43'-45' era is realistic, but in 39... not sure. Also, this was a usual escort group with no hunter-killer ships like the Black Swan in it.

the bug of crew AI always in alert state when they spot their first contact is still present. When I get that fixed it should alleviate, for the most part, what happened to you (based on year in time)

TheDarkWraith · 07-12-10, 11:49 AM

v0.0.7 released. This fixes the bug of ship's crew state staying in alert once the ship detects it's first contact. See post #1 for details

reaper7 · 07-12-10, 11:54 AM

Good going. This is really making thing interesting.

Will-Rommel · 07-12-10, 11:59 AM

TDW, in my opinion you are currently the alpha male of sh5!

(Props to others hard working modders like steelviking and W-clear too of course)

TheDarkWraith · 07-12-10, 12:29 PM

working on implementing tactics for hunter killer groups now

TheBeast · 07-12-10, 12:53 PM

Had my first run in with enemy aircraft since I installed this MOD. I was 75 Ktms east of Blyth/Tyne running on the surface recharging batteries just after sun set(21:38 hour). Depth under keel was 182 meters.
When the aircraft were spotted, I assumed they would just fly by and wave as usual, so I didn't bother to dive, not so. These 2 guys come in guns blazing, churning the sea around my boat in to a frothing boil and screwed up 3 of my crew doing 12% hull damage on the first pass. My Flak Gunners scored few hits on both aircraft at the same time and they are both smoking. Again, I did not dive assuming they are damage and would RTB, not so. They continued attacking.
I began evasive maneuvers and after 3 more passes I was able to destroy one of them and the other being damaged badly with flame trailing behind it, stalled and crashed.

This MOD is doing wonders for the AI. Thank you for taking the time and looking into these things.

P.S. The Bastages called for help before they went down. Had 2 more on me after posting the first part above.

Even after I submerge, the aircraft continue to pound my last known position and do not appear to be leaving any time soon.

Zedi · 07-12-10, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBeast

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Even after I submerge, the aircraft continue to pound my last known position and do not appear to be leaving any time soon.

The planes are circling even after the contact is lost and they will spend all the ammo by shooting in the water where the sub was spoted last time. Even after the ammo is depleted they will continue to do the same loop forever. They actually have the same strategy as the escort ships have now, just camp the last contact spot forever. Hope the latest version will fix this.

xristoskaiti · 07-12-10, 01:46 PM

Now planes are resistant or fall down like flies?

TheDarkWraith · 07-12-10, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magnum

The planes are circling even after the contact is lost and they will spend all the ammo by shooting in the water where the sub was spoted last time. Even after the ammo is depleted they will continue to do the same loop forever. They actually have the same strategy as the escort ships have now, just camp the last contact spot forever. Hope the latest version will fix this.

that's good info to know

I'll have to fix that.

TheBeast · 07-12-10, 02:09 PM

I was just thankfull they didn't have Depth Charges or I would have been toast.
Hull at 46% from just 2 encounters of 2 planes. After about 30 minutes there were over 8 planes there circling, taking turns on gun runs.

P.S. I was running version 0.0.6 at the time. I have installed v0.0.7 now.

TheDarkWraith · 07-12-10, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBeast

I was just thankfull they didn't have Depth Charges or I would have been toast.
Hull at 46% from just 2 encounters of 2 planes. After about 30 minutes there were over 8 planes there circling, taking turns on gun runs.

do I hear a that was an exciting encounter? I'm having fun playing the game now and hope you all are also

TheBeast · 07-12-10, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

do I hear a that was an exciting encounter? I'm having fun playing the game now and hope you all are also

Oh Yes!

TheDarkWraith · 07-12-10, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBeast

Oh Yes!

wait till a torpedo bomber surprises you.....When it detects you it doesn't come in from high, it's skimming the surface from way out to your location. Nasty

TheBeast · 07-12-10, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

wait till a torpedo bomber surprises you.....When it detects you it doesn't come in from high, it's skimming the surface from way out to your location. Nasty

The image generated in my minds eye is awesum...

07-12-10, 11:59 AM	#110
Will-Rommel Chief Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 320 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	TDW, in my opinion you are currently the alpha male of sh5! (Props to others hard working modders like steelviking and W-clear too of course) __________________ -Fighting is a lifestyle-

07-12-10, 12:53 PM	#112
TheBeast The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Lynnwood, WA Posts: 1,533 Downloads: 876 Uploads: 23	Enemy Aircraft Had my first run in with enemy aircraft since I installed this MOD. I was 75 Ktms east of Blyth/Tyne running on the surface recharging batteries just after sun set(21:38 hour). Depth under keel was 182 meters. When the aircraft were spotted, I assumed they would just fly by and wave as usual, so I didn't bother to dive, not so. These 2 guys come in guns blazing, churning the sea around my boat in to a frothing boil and screwed up 3 of my crew doing 12% hull damage on the first pass. My Flak Gunners scored few hits on both aircraft at the same time and they are both smoking. Again, I did not dive assuming they are damage and would RTB, not so. They continued attacking. I began evasive maneuvers and after 3 more passes I was able to destroy one of them and the other being damaged badly with flame trailing behind it, stalled and crashed. This MOD is doing wonders for the AI. Thank you for taking the time and looking into these things. P.S. The Bastages called for help before they went down. Had 2 more on me after posting the first part above. Even after I submerge, the aircraft continue to pound my last known position and do not appear to be leaving any time soon. __________________ Fear me! I am, TheBeastBelow SHIV-MediaFire \| SHV-MediaFire Last edited by TheBeast; 07-12-10 at 01:45 PM. Reason: added picture

07-12-10, 02:09 PM	#116
TheBeast The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Lynnwood, WA Posts: 1,533 Downloads: 876 Uploads: 23	I was just thankfull they didn't have Depth Charges or I would have been toast. Hull at 46% from just 2 encounters of 2 planes. After about 30 minutes there were over 8 planes there circling, taking turns on gun runs. P.S. I was running version 0.0.6 at the time. I have installed v0.0.7 now. __________________ Fear me! I am, TheBeastBelow SHIV-MediaFire \| SHV-MediaFire

07-12-10, 04:38 AM	#106
Zedi Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,845 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 2	Yesterday I got into a weird situation. Sunk Ark Royal then I was waiting at long distance for the escorts to calm down and leave the crime scene. After 3 hours later they were still circling and searching for me, so I decided to sneak out on silent running. After I was at the visual range limit, somehow one of the escorts got my track. This was the last time I saw the sky for the next 2 days. No matter what I did, they were all over me. Decoys, all engines stop, slow running at max depth.. nothing worked. After 2 days I surfaced on max speed for few seconds just th refresh the air. Got badly damaged but I survived. But was no use, after the next 2 days I had to give up, they even called reinforcements with fresh loads of DC's. Now.. this is pretty realistic and usually in this case death is the final result. The only problem is that this happened in 39' where the detection tools were pretty primitive. This scenario in 43'-45' era is realistic, but in 39... not sure. Also, this was a usual escort group with no hunter-killer ships like the Black Swan in it. Anyway, huge improvement on the gameplay, no doubt about. It's almost a different game.

07-12-10, 11:49 AM	#108
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	v0.0.7 released. This fixes the bug of ship's crew state staying in alert once the ship detects it's first contact. See post #1 for details

07-12-10, 11:54 AM	#109
reaper7 sim2reality Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: AM 82 Posts: 2,280 Downloads: 258 Uploads: 30	Good going. This is really making thing interesting.

07-12-10, 12:29 PM	#111
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	working on implementing tactics for hunter killer groups now

07-12-10, 01:46 PM	#114
xristoskaiti Lieutenant Join Date: May 2007 Location: pireas Posts: 256 Downloads: 456 Uploads: 0	Now planes are resistant or fall down like flies?