2016 US Presidential election thread - Page 7

Torplexed · 07-18-15, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Oh christ...so a Clinton and a Bush running against each other...and we have another Perot?

History doesn't always repeat itself. Sometimes it just screams, "Why the hell don't you listen to me?" and then lets fly with a big stick.

Onkel Neal · 07-22-15, 08:21 PM

Chris Christie’s Biggest Flip-Flop Ever: He Now Prefers Bon Jovi to Bruce Springsteen

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...ringsteen.html

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It’s that Springsteen hates politicians like Christie who want to cut taxes for the rich and pick fights with unions.

Christie has always known this, and it never seemed to matter much to him.

At the concert in 2012, he mocked Springsteen’s mid-show “lecture” to Goldberg. “He’s telling us that rich people like him are "screwing" over poor people like us in the audience,” Christie said, “except that us in the audience aren’t poor, because we can afford to pay 98 bucks to him to see his show. That’s what he’s saying.”

Well, they say the Boss is born to run, but he won't support Christie.

August · 07-23-15, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Torplexed

I think what keeps the GOP awake at night, is knowing that with his money, temper and bluster, Trump could break with the party and potentially do what Texas billionaire Ross Perot did as an independent candidate in 1992: take away millions of Republic votes, and tip the election to the Democrats.

I've heard similar speculation, even that Trump is secretly working for Clinton. He's got to know that he doesn't have a chance in the general election. I guess we'll see how it all plays out.

Onkel Neal · 07-23-15, 11:28 PM

Hey, Trump was in Laredo today...I was in Laredo today... I wonder, is there any connection? Nah, I was working.

Wolferz · 07-27-15, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Hey, Trump was in Laredo today...I was in Laredo today... I wonder, is there any connection? Nah, I was working.

Trump wasn't.

Jimbuna · 07-27-15, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolferz

Trump wasn't.

LOL

Onkel Neal · 08-01-15, 05:17 PM

Hillary's biggest nightmare

Joe Biden 'Not Saying No' to Potential Presidential Run

Of all the Dems, he's one I could live with. Another draft dodger, but that's getting to be the norm for all politicians.

Oberon · 08-01-15, 06:13 PM

I dunno, I hear Bernie has been prowling around just under the surface, ready for a chance to strike. But he'll probably just be run down by the Clinton financial juggernaut. If he isn't...God, imagine the outcry if he became president. I think you'd have to close GT!

Torplexed · 08-01-15, 07:50 PM

I think at present Hillary loses to Trump. She caps at 46% I doubt she goes any higher. Her sketchy ethics and a neo-con foreign policy won't generate much excitement with a Democratic party that already seems tired of her. Hillary is good on women's issues but not much else. Sanders beats Trump one to one but doesn't beat Hillary yet.

I wonder what goes through the millionaire Koch Brothers minds when they see Trump? It's hard to buy a candidate we can manipulate with this rich political clown running around and saying all the things we wish our candidates could say, but can't.

mapuc · 08-01-15, 07:54 PM

Said by a Danish Journalist:

"The American love Donald Trump for his strait talk and not wrapping things into diplomatically chit-chat"

Markus

Oberon · 08-01-15, 08:06 PM

There's a trend for that at the moment, Jeremy Corbyn is doing well for the Labour leadership election in the UK for a similar reason, and part of the Farage charm in UKIP is that he's un-PC.
It's a backlash I think from the years we've had spin force fed to us from well paid spin-doctors. The old political double-speak that promises everything but commits to nothing.
That being said, just because someone is straight-talking and different from the status quo, it doesn't mean that they're going to be a good leader. NSDAP was something different from the norm, so was Communism, and look how well that turned out.

And yes, I know...I'll issue it to myself:

August · 08-01-15, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

That being said, just because someone is straight-talking and different from the status quo, it doesn't mean that they're going to be a good leader.

This ^. Those who appreciate his straight talking need to start thinking what "President Trump" might be like.

em2nought · 08-02-15, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

I dunno, I hear Bernie has been prowling around just under the surface, ready for a chance to strike. But he'll probably just be run down by the Clinton financial juggernaut. If he isn't...God, imagine the outcry if he became president. I think you'd have to close GT!

It would be surprisingly quiet because most of us would have an aneurysm.

Wolferz · 08-02-15, 09:20 AM

Strip away the exorbitant presidential salary and retirement stipend and you would see them all bow out poste haste.

The president gets a nice house to live in, three squares a day, top notch medical care, security and first class transportation. All free gratis.
Why does he/she need to get paid?

Thomas Jefferson never accepted a single dime from the people he served while in office.

Tchocky · 08-02-15, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolferz

Strip away the exorbitant presidential salary and retirement stipend and you would see them all bow out poste haste.

The president gets a nice house to live in, three squares a day, top notch medical care, security and first class transportation. All free gratis.
Why does he/she need to get paid?

Thomas Jefferson never accepted a single dime from the people he served while in office.

Almost anyone running for the nomination could make a lot more in the private sector.

Nobody wants to be President for the money.

07-23-15, 11:28 PM	#94
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,284 Downloads: 534 Uploads: 224	Hey, Trump was in Laredo today...I was in Laredo today... I wonder, is there any connection? Nah, I was working. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

08-01-15, 05:17 PM	#97
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,284 Downloads: 534 Uploads: 224	Hillary's biggest nightmare Joe Biden 'Not Saying No' to Potential Presidential Run Of all the Dems, he's one I could live with. Another draft dodger, but that's getting to be the norm for all politicians. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

08-01-15, 07:50 PM	#99
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	I think at present Hillary loses to Trump. She caps at 46% I doubt she goes any higher. Her sketchy ethics and a neo-con foreign policy won't generate much excitement with a Democratic party that already seems tired of her. Hillary is good on women's issues but not much else. Sanders beats Trump one to one but doesn't beat Hillary yet. I wonder what goes through the millionaire Koch Brothers minds when they see Trump? It's hard to buy a candidate we can manipulate with this rich political clown running around and saying all the things we wish our candidates could say, but can't. __________________ --Mobilis in Mobili--

08-02-15, 09:20 AM	#104
Wolferz Navy Seal Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a mighty quest for the Stick of Truth Posts: 5,963 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	Strip away the exorbitant presidential salary and retirement stipend and you would see them all bow out poste haste. The president gets a nice house to live in, three squares a day, top notch medical care, security and first class transportation. All free gratis. Why does he/she need to get paid? Thomas Jefferson never accepted a single dime from the people he served while in office. __________________ Tomorrow never comes

08-01-15, 06:13 PM	#98
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	I dunno, I hear Bernie has been prowling around just under the surface, ready for a chance to strike. But he'll probably just be run down by the Clinton financial juggernaut. If he isn't...God, imagine the outcry if he became president. I think you'd have to close GT!

08-01-15, 07:54 PM	#100
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,885 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Said by a Danish Journalist: "The American love Donald Trump for his strait talk and not wrapping things into diplomatically chit-chat" Markus

08-01-15, 08:06 PM	#101
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	There's a trend for that at the moment, Jeremy Corbyn is doing well for the Labour leadership election in the UK for a similar reason, and part of the Farage charm in UKIP is that he's un-PC. It's a backlash I think from the years we've had spin force fed to us from well paid spin-doctors. The old political double-speak that promises everything but commits to nothing. That being said, just because someone is straight-talking and different from the status quo, it doesn't mean that they're going to be a good leader. NSDAP was something different from the norm, so was Communism, and look how well that turned out. And yes, I know...I'll issue it to myself: