SH 1 sound

Agrippa · 12-04-06, 10:49 PM

I successfully installed SH1 onto my laptop, and the game plays well, without having to use dosbox. However, there's no sound, and a submarine game is one of those where sound is rather necessary. Does anyone have any tips on getting the sound to work? I tried all the options for digital sound and it said it couldn't find the sound card (or whatever).

Sailor Steve · 12-05-06, 11:59 AM

Yep. Use DosBox. It's a Dos game. As far as I know that's the only way.

But that's only as far as I know.

Wim Libaers · 12-05-06, 04:48 PM

Well, there are some other options, with computer emulators such as qemu, or (if everything else works well) sound card emulators such as VDMS. More difficult to use than Dosbox, but they can provide better performance (which may or may not be a good thing - some very old games can run too fast).

Agrippa · 12-05-06, 10:10 PM

what is VDMS, and where can I get it?

Also, is qemu for DOS programs, and if so where can I get it?

Thanks

1mPHUNit0 · 12-06-06, 02:27 PM

No, don't use it
dos box it's the best.
VDMS get a loot of problems

Wim Libaers · 12-06-06, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agrippa

what is VDMS, and where can I get it?

Also, is qemu for DOS programs, and if so where can I get it?

Thanks

OK. A very old VDMS version can be found here:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/vdmsound/
And a newer version (preferable):
http://vogons.zetafleet.com/viewtopic.php?t=2071

You will notice even the new version is not exactly recent. As far as I know, it is no longer an active project. It is also trickier to use than Dosbox, and some options are likely to be confusing unless you had some experience with making DOS bootdisks. The new version also includes some extra tools, such as MSCDEX emulation (SAPUCDEX) which is very useful for games that require the CD-ROM.

If Dosbox works for you, it may be better to stay away from VDMS. It will not help, it will merely be more difficult to configure. However, if you have performance issues with Dosbox, it's worth giving it a try. For example, VDMS, SAPUCDEX and dgVoodoo (a Glide emulator) combined are a good way to run the first Tomb Raider game in Windows at acceptable performance with 3D acceleration. This would not work in Dosbox. But it is not easy to configure (well, in the case of Tomb Raider, there's a program that automates most of the decisions, but in the general case it's tricky).

QEMU is a complete system emulator. It is similar to Dosbox, but Dosbox is made for just one OS (DOS), and not very fast. QEMU is faster (even without the special accelerator library), and can run any OS that runs on any of the systems it can emulate (in fact, you have to install an OS on it). It can be even harder to configure than VDMS, but is useful if you want a specific OS. No 3D acceleration though. It is one of a number of virtual PC programs, you can find a list here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...rtual_machines
Some of these may be easier to use, I haven't tried many of them.

1mPHUNit0 · 12-06-06, 07:30 PM

Naaa.... dosbox, simple, easy, fast, and best

Create in C
C/DOS and inside create Files, Download, and CDrive
Put DosBox 0.63-win32-installer.exe in C:\Dos\Files.
Then install Dosbox
Destination folder
"C:\DOS\DOSBox-0.63" OK?

Now we change autoexec.bat.
From Start, programs , DOSBox-0.63,
DOSBox.conf

At the end of DOSBox.conf write:

[autoexec]
#Lines in this section will be run at the startup
mount C C:\DOS\CDrive
mount D D:\ -t cdrom
C:
CLS

Change also......

[sdl]
# fullscreen -- Start dosbox directly in fullscreen.
# fulldouble -- Use double buffering in fullscreen.
# fullfixed -- Don't resize the screen when in fullscreen.
# fullresolution -- What resolution to use for fullscreen, use together with fullfixed.
# output -- What to use for output: surface,overlay,opengl,openglnb,ddraw.
# hwscale -- Extra scaling of window if the output device supports hardware scaling.
# autolock -- Mouse will automatically lock, if you click on the screen.
# sensitiviy -- Mouse sensitivity.
# waitonerror -- Wait before closing the console if dosbox has an error.
# priority -- Priority levels for dosbox: lower,normal,higher,highest.
# Second entry behind the comma is for when dosbox is not focused/minimized.
# mapperfile -- File used to load/save the key/event mappings from.

fullscreen=true <-------- This !!!!
fulldouble=false
fullfixed=false
fullresolution=1024x768
output=surface
hwscale=1.00
autolock=true
sensitivity=100
waitonerror=true
priority=higher,normal
mapperfile=mapper.txt

[dosbox]
# language -- Select another language file.
# memsize -- Amount of memory dosbox has in megabytes.
# machine -- The type of machine tries to emulate:hercules,cga,tandy,vga.
# captures -- Directory where things like wave,midi,screenshot get captured.

language=
machine=auto <-------- This !!!!
captures=capture
memsize=64 <-------- This !!!!

[render]
# frameskip -- How many frames dosbox skips before drawing one.
# aspect -- Do aspect correction.
# scaler -- Scaler used to enlarge/enhance low resolution modes.
# Supported are none,normal2x,advmame2x,advmame3x,advinterp2x,inte rp2x,tv2x.

frameskip=6 <-------- This !!!! (frameskip=3 ->17.5 / 15 fps 2->23.3 / 20 fps)
aspect=true <-------- This !!!!
scaler=normal2x

[cpu]
# core -- CPU Core used in emulation: simple,normal,full,dynamic.
# cycles -- Amount of instructions dosbox tries to emulate each millisecond.
# Setting this higher than your machine can handle is bad!
# cycleup -- Amount of cycles to increase/decrease with keycombo.
# cycledown Setting it lower than 100 will be a percentage.

core=normal (provate a vedere se funziona "dynamic"...ma.....)
cycles=9000 <-------- This !!!! (si può provare a incremantare il carico ma...)
cycleup=500
cycledown=20

[mixer]
# nosound -- Enable silent mode, sound is still emulated though.
# rate -- Mixer sample rate, setting any devices higher than this will
# probably lower their sound quality.
# blocksize -- Mixer block size, larger blocks might help sound stuttering
# but sound will also be more lagged.
# prebuffer -- How many milliseconds of data to keep on top of the blocksize.

nosound=false
rate=22050
blocksize=2048
prebuffer=10

[midi]
# mpu401 -- Enable MPU-401 Emulation.
# intelligent -- Operate in Intelligent mode.
# device -- Device that will receive the MIDI data from MPU-401.
# This can be default,alsa,oss,win32,coreaudio,none.
# config -- Special configuration options for the device.

mpu401=false <-------- This !!!!
intelligent=true
device=default
config=

[sblaster]
# type -- Type of sblaster to emulate:none,sb1,sb2,sbpro1,sbpro2,sb16.
# base,irq,dma,hdma -- The IO/IRQ/DMA/High DMA address of the soundblaster.
# mixer -- Allow the soundblaster mixer to modify the dosbox mixer.
# oplmode -- Type of OPL emulation: auto,cms,opl2,dualopl2,opl3.
# On auto the mode is determined by sblaster type.
# oplrate -- Sample rate of OPL music emulation.

type=sb16
base=220
irq=7
dma=1
hdma=5
mixer=true
oplmode=auto
oplrate=22050

[gus]
# gus -- Enable the Gravis Ultrasound emulation.
# base,irq1,irq2,dma1,dma2 -- The IO/IRQ/DMA addresses of the
# Gravis Ultrasound. (Same IRQ's and DMA's are OK.)
# rate -- Sample rate of Ultrasound emulation.
# ultradir -- Path to Ultrasound directory. In this directory
# there should be a MIDI directory that contains
# the patch files for GUS playback. Patch sets used
# with Timidity should work fine.

gus=false <-------- This !!!!
rate=22050
base=240
irq1=5
irq2=5
dma1=3
dma2=3
ultradir=C:\ULTRASND

[speaker]
# pcspeaker -- Enable PC-Speaker emulation.
# pcrate -- Sample rate of the PC-Speaker sound generation.
# tandyrate -- Sample rate of the Tandy 3-Voice generation.
# Tandysound emulation is present if machine is set to tandy.
# disney -- Enable Disney Sound Source emulation.

pcspeaker=true
pcrate=22050
tandyrate=22050
disney=false <-------- This !!!!

[bios]
# Nothing to setup yet!

[dos]
# xms -- Enable XMS support.
# ems -- Enable EMS support.

xms=true
ems=true

[modem]
# modem -- Enable virtual modem emulation.
# comport -- COM Port modem is connected to.
# listenport -- TCP Port the modem listens on for incoming connections.

modem=false
comport=2
listenport=23

[directserial]
# directserial -- Enable serial passthrough support.
# comport -- COM Port inside DOSBox.
# realport -- COM Port on the Host.
# defaultbps -- Default BPS.
# parity -- Parity of the packets. This can be N, E or O.
# bytesize -- Size of each packet. This can be 5 or 8.
# stopbit -- The number of stopbits. This can be 1 or 2.

directserial=false
comport=1
realport=COM1
defaultbps=1200
parity=N
bytesize=8
stopbit=1

[ipx]
# ipx -- Enable ipx over UDP/IP emulation.

ipx=false

[autoexec]
#Lines in this section will be run at the startup
mount C C:\DOS\CDrive <-------- This !!!!
mount D D:\ -t cdrom <-------- This !!!!
C: <-------- this !!!!
CLS <-------- this!!!!

Install the prog in C:\DOS\CDrive
Play DOSBox
cd silent
write sh
End.
Some tweaking

CTRL-F7 = Decreases frameskip

CTRL-F8 = Increases Frameskip

CTRL-F11 = Slows down the game

CTRL-F12 = Speeds up the game

Push CTRL-ALT-DEL and open Task Manager,
Performance tab.
CTRL-F12 until CPU Usage level 95%.
CTRL-F8 as you prefer.

12-04-06, 10:49 PM	#1
Agrippa Seaman Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 35 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	SH 1 sound I successfully installed SH1 onto my laptop, and the game plays well, without having to use dosbox. However, there's no sound, and a submarine game is one of those where sound is rather necessary. Does anyone have any tips on getting the sound to work? I tried all the options for digital sound and it said it couldn't find the sound card (or whatever).

12-05-06, 11:59 AM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Yep. Use DosBox. It's a Dos game. As far as I know that's the only way. But that's only as far as I know. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

12-05-06, 04:48 PM	#3
Wim Libaers Samurai Navy Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Flanders Posts: 569 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Well, there are some other options, with computer emulators such as qemu, or (if everything else works well) sound card emulators such as VDMS. More difficult to use than Dosbox, but they can provide better performance (which may or may not be a good thing - some very old games can run too fast).

12-05-06, 10:10 PM	#4
Agrippa Seaman Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 35 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	what is VDMS, and where can I get it? Also, is qemu for DOS programs, and if so where can I get it? Thanks

12-06-06, 02:27 PM	#5
1mPHUNit0 Chief Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 313 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	No, don't use it dos box it's the best. VDMS get a loot of problems

12-06-06, 07:30 PM	#7
1mPHUNit0 Chief Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 313 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	Naaa.... dosbox, simple, easy, fast, and best Create in C C/DOS and inside create Files, Download, and CDrive Put DosBox 0.63-win32-installer.exe in C:\Dos\Files. Then install Dosbox Destination folder "C:\DOS\DOSBox-0.63" OK? Now we change autoexec.bat. From Start, programs , DOSBox-0.63, DOSBox.conf At the end of DOSBox.conf write: [autoexec] #Lines in this section will be run at the startup mount C C:\DOS\CDrive mount D D:\ -t cdrom C: CLS Change also...... [sdl] # fullscreen -- Start dosbox directly in fullscreen. # fulldouble -- Use double buffering in fullscreen. # fullfixed -- Don't resize the screen when in fullscreen. # fullresolution -- What resolution to use for fullscreen, use together with fullfixed. # output -- What to use for output: surface,overlay,opengl,openglnb,ddraw. # hwscale -- Extra scaling of window if the output device supports hardware scaling. # autolock -- Mouse will automatically lock, if you click on the screen. # sensitiviy -- Mouse sensitivity. # waitonerror -- Wait before closing the console if dosbox has an error. # priority -- Priority levels for dosbox: lower,normal,higher,highest. # Second entry behind the comma is for when dosbox is not focused/minimized. # mapperfile -- File used to load/save the key/event mappings from. fullscreen=true <-------- This !!!! fulldouble=false fullfixed=false fullresolution=1024x768 output=surface hwscale=1.00 autolock=true sensitivity=100 waitonerror=true priority=higher,normal mapperfile=mapper.txt [dosbox] # language -- Select another language file. # memsize -- Amount of memory dosbox has in megabytes. # machine -- The type of machine tries to emulate:hercules,cga,tandy,vga. # captures -- Directory where things like wave,midi,screenshot get captured. language= machine=auto <-------- This !!!! captures=capture memsize=64 <-------- This !!!! [render] # frameskip -- How many frames dosbox skips before drawing one. # aspect -- Do aspect correction. # scaler -- Scaler used to enlarge/enhance low resolution modes. # Supported are none,normal2x,advmame2x,advmame3x,advinterp2x,inte rp2x,tv2x. frameskip=6 <-------- This !!!! (frameskip=3 ->17.5 / 15 fps 2->23.3 / 20 fps) aspect=true <-------- This !!!! scaler=normal2x [cpu] # core -- CPU Core used in emulation: simple,normal,full,dynamic. # cycles -- Amount of instructions dosbox tries to emulate each millisecond. # Setting this higher than your machine can handle is bad! # cycleup -- Amount of cycles to increase/decrease with keycombo. # cycledown Setting it lower than 100 will be a percentage. core=normal (provate a vedere se funziona "dynamic"...ma.....) cycles=9000 <-------- This !!!! (si può provare a incremantare il carico ma...) cycleup=500 cycledown=20 [mixer] # nosound -- Enable silent mode, sound is still emulated though. # rate -- Mixer sample rate, setting any devices higher than this will # probably lower their sound quality. # blocksize -- Mixer block size, larger blocks might help sound stuttering # but sound will also be more lagged. # prebuffer -- How many milliseconds of data to keep on top of the blocksize. nosound=false rate=22050 blocksize=2048 prebuffer=10 [midi] # mpu401 -- Enable MPU-401 Emulation. # intelligent -- Operate in Intelligent mode. # device -- Device that will receive the MIDI data from MPU-401. # This can be default,alsa,oss,win32,coreaudio,none. # config -- Special configuration options for the device. mpu401=false <-------- This !!!! intelligent=true device=default config= [sblaster] # type -- Type of sblaster to emulate:none,sb1,sb2,sbpro1,sbpro2,sb16. # base,irq,dma,hdma -- The IO/IRQ/DMA/High DMA address of the soundblaster. # mixer -- Allow the soundblaster mixer to modify the dosbox mixer. # oplmode -- Type of OPL emulation: auto,cms,opl2,dualopl2,opl3. # On auto the mode is determined by sblaster type. # oplrate -- Sample rate of OPL music emulation. type=sb16 base=220 irq=7 dma=1 hdma=5 mixer=true oplmode=auto oplrate=22050 [gus] # gus -- Enable the Gravis Ultrasound emulation. # base,irq1,irq2,dma1,dma2 -- The IO/IRQ/DMA addresses of the # Gravis Ultrasound. (Same IRQ's and DMA's are OK.) # rate -- Sample rate of Ultrasound emulation. # ultradir -- Path to Ultrasound directory. In this directory # there should be a MIDI directory that contains # the patch files for GUS playback. Patch sets used # with Timidity should work fine. gus=false <-------- This !!!! rate=22050 base=240 irq1=5 irq2=5 dma1=3 dma2=3 ultradir=C:\ULTRASND [speaker] # pcspeaker -- Enable PC-Speaker emulation. # pcrate -- Sample rate of the PC-Speaker sound generation. # tandyrate -- Sample rate of the Tandy 3-Voice generation. # Tandysound emulation is present if machine is set to tandy. # disney -- Enable Disney Sound Source emulation. pcspeaker=true pcrate=22050 tandyrate=22050 disney=false <-------- This !!!! [bios] # Nothing to setup yet! [dos] # xms -- Enable XMS support. # ems -- Enable EMS support. xms=true ems=true [modem] # modem -- Enable virtual modem emulation. # comport -- COM Port modem is connected to. # listenport -- TCP Port the modem listens on for incoming connections. modem=false comport=2 listenport=23 [directserial] # directserial -- Enable serial passthrough support. # comport -- COM Port inside DOSBox. # realport -- COM Port on the Host. # defaultbps -- Default BPS. # parity -- Parity of the packets. This can be N, E or O. # bytesize -- Size of each packet. This can be 5 or 8. # stopbit -- The number of stopbits. This can be 1 or 2. directserial=false comport=1 realport=COM1 defaultbps=1200 parity=N bytesize=8 stopbit=1 [ipx] # ipx -- Enable ipx over UDP/IP emulation. ipx=false [autoexec] #Lines in this section will be run at the startup mount C C:\DOS\CDrive <-------- This !!!! mount D D:\ -t cdrom <-------- This !!!! C: <-------- this !!!! CLS <-------- this!!!! Install the prog in C:\DOS\CDrive Play DOSBox cd silent write sh End. Some tweaking CTRL-F7 = Decreases frameskip CTRL-F8 = Increases Frameskip CTRL-F11 = Slows down the game CTRL-F12 = Speeds up the game Push CTRL-ALT-DEL and open Task Manager, Performance tab. CTRL-F12 until CPU Usage level 95%. CTRL-F8 as you prefer.