Here we go again-Ukraine once again

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by mapuc

I get the impression that Germany is not helping Ukraine. They are not fighting them either- It's difficult to see where Germany stands in this Russian invasion war against Ukraine.

Markus

Oh, its easy where Germany stands. Bubble-Olaf even, word-for-word, said it openly on TV: "I am afraid of a nuclear war". As a leader of a nation, you cannot be so ifantile to put something like this so blatantly open on display, he is an idiot. Note how cool America reacted instead: they did not even care to react in any way to this threat, did not honour it with an own comment. They know that Russia knows damn well that there are 3 nations in NATO having nukes, too. And Britian, when being confronted with the recent threat that Russia could start targetting more unusual targets if it sends certain kinds of weapons (as if they do not already bomb randomly unusual taregets by princxiple) reacted by announcing that these weapons now would be send in even bigger quantities.

But lil' Olaf sits all alone at home and is afraid, and he tells the Kremelin that he is. Stupid idiot. On that day when he did that, the Kremlin opened champagne bottles.

Note the weasel words Bubble-Olaf uses. He does not say "The ukraine must win and Russia must loose." Nor does he say the opposite, that Ukraine must loose and Russia should win (although in a way that is what Germany and France want). What he says, is this, repeatedly, and I try to translate it word by word: "Ukraine must not lose and Russia must not win this war". Weasel tiptoeing around in the shades! You do not get him to say that the Ukraine has any right to win the war, you can press him directly, ask him to his face, leave him no space to evade, he will not say that Ukriane should win the war and that Russia should loose it, ums Verrecken nicht. Its very clear, the Germans do not want Ukraine to score a clear win against Russia, and I fear they do their part to help for this diffuse outcome. They want the same like 2014, that Ukraine gives up land for "peace". France too, btw, they too have many concerned Russia-understanders who are worried to leave Russia no chance to save its precious little barbar face.

Meanwhile, Medwedev at every opportunity spills his blatant HATE on the west openly all over he channels where they broadcast him. Its not hostile rhetoric, its not just a verbal tool - the HATE is absolutely real and is felt with all his heart.

Even before the war, Bubble-Olaf shone with his concept of strategic ambiguity, claiming that keeping the Kremlin in the dark about Western reactions would help keep it from attacking. He only overlooked the fact that the West would have had to show an ultimate military force, the use of which would have been a threat - then - and only then! - that is a strategic ambiguity about which the Kremlin should have racked its brains. And the economic reaction element: we know that the Kremlin was already surprised by Europe's reactions, had not expected them. So one wonders what would have happened if little Olaf, instead of his strategic ambiguity (which was in fact a lazy excuse for doing what he prefers to do, namely never committing himself to anything, thus avoiding the risk of being held responsible for it later - his great fear), had said plainly and clearly how tough the economic sanctions would be. Maybe that would have made the price seem too expensive? But Olaf did not want to name a price. There he is attackable because he named this and no other, lower or higher price. But no, not wioth this little weasel. Weasels do not do egg-dances, but just tiny-steps stepdances between the eggs, and only in the shadows of night.

To simply spin word phrases and present them as a substitute for non-existent own strength and determination - that's a hollow bluff, and little Olaf has been blown up with it with drum and trumpets. The garlands of words he now brandishes are simply an insidious conspiracy. According to his grandiose self-evidence, no one but the U.S. provides more aid and arms supplies than Germany. Note that the loud thunder of words "1 billion for the Bundeswehr plus 2% per anno!" already has been washed down, too, the 1 bn now will be counted and used for reaching that 2% goal. That cna work only for aroudn 5 years. then the money is gone, the additiuonal equiopoment will be needed to get constantly financed and maintained, but a fincial fundament a sprmsied has been deleted again already at the very bgeinning of the "new era" for the bundeswehr. He claiums the Bundeswehr in a few yeras will be the "biggest and strongest army in all Europe". I am not kidding, he used those words! Somebody should give him a link to Wikipedia, that alone would be good enough to do the counting. He would be surprised.

And this - militarily washed-up - Germany wants to be in charge of the NATO intervention forces in Eastern Europe...? Cklaims to be a ready guarantor os security for the Ukraine?



Großes Maul und nichts dahinter. World, you are warned of this Germany. DO NOT TRUST ITS BIGMOUTHED WORDS.


If Biden and Johnson also step down or are stepped down, then it looks bleak for Ukraine.

[mapuc]

....and our media and politician here in Denmark and Sweden look up to him...almost worship him.

Another thing which we may have discussed earlier-The fact that none of Putins closest colleague dare to speak against him or tell him the truth.
In a Danish article it was said The Russian Generals knew before the war that the Russian army isn't that great and it has many problems, but none of them dared to say this openly to Putin.

Because the take-down of Putin has to come from the inner circle or from FSB.

Markus

[Skybird]

After the 4 German MARS II/HIMARS systems were reported top get delayed until end of this year, now the delivery of the IRIS-T SAM system is reported to get delayed until Decembre, too.

Mind you, not even the Bundeswehr has IRIS-T.


"No one supplies on a similar scale as Germany does." - original quote Olaf Scholz.



Maybe somebody should explain him the difference between the deed that got done, and the claim that did so far nothing. Germany has deloivered small callibre ammuntio9n, hand grenades, AT mkissiles, satchel charges, helmets, ignitors for cmap fires. All in the first 3-4 weeks - and since then nothing but big words. Claims and intentions do not count as deeds done.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Oh, its easy where Germany stands. Bubble-Olaf even, word-for-word, said it openly on TV: "I am afraid of a nuclear war". As a leader of a nation, you cannot be so ifantile to put something like this so blatantly open on display, he is an idiot. Note how cool America reacted instead: they did not even care to react in any way to this threat, did not honour it with an own comment. They know that Russia knows damn well that there are 3 nations in NATO having nukes, too. And Britian, when being confronted with the recent threat that Russia could start targetting more unusual targets if it sends certain kinds of weapons (as if they do not already bomb randomly unusual taregets by princxiple) reacted by announcing that these weapons now would be send in even bigger quantities.

But lil' Olaf sits all alone at home and is afraid, and he tells the Kremelin that he is. Stupid idiot. On that day when he did that, the Kremlin opened champagne bottles.

Note the weasel words Bubble-Olaf uses. He does not say "The ukraine must win and Russia must loose." Nor does he say the opposite, that Ukraine must loose and Russia should win (although in a way that is what Germany and France want). What he says, is this, repeatedly, and I try to translate it word by word: "Ukraine must not lose and Russia must not win this war". Weasel tiptoeing around in the shades! You do not get him to say that the Ukraine has any right to win the war, you can press him directly, ask him to his face, leave him no space to evade, he will not say that Ukriane should win the war and that Russia should loose it, ums Verrecken nicht. Its very clear, the Germans do not want Ukraine to score a clear win against Russia, and I fear they do their part to help for this diffuse outcome. They want the same like 2014, that Ukraine gives up land for "peace". France too, btw, they too have many concerned Russia-understanders who are worried to leave Russia no chance to save its precious little barbar face.

Meanwhile, Medwedev at every opportunity spills his blatant HATE on the west openly all over he channels where they broadcast him. Its not hostile rhetoric, its not just a verbal tool - the HATE is absolutely real and is felt with all his heart.

Even before the war, Bubble-Olaf shone with his concept of strategic ambiguity, claiming that keeping the Kremlin in the dark about Western reactions would help keep it from attacking. He only overlooked the fact that the West would have had to show an ultimate military force, the use of which would have been a threat - then - and only then! - that is a strategic ambiguity about which the Kremlin should have racked its brains. And the economic reaction element: we know that the Kremlin was already surprised by Europe's reactions, had not expected them. So one wonders what would have happened if little Olaf, instead of his strategic ambiguity (which was in fact a lazy excuse for doing what he prefers to do, namely never committing himself to anything, thus avoiding the risk of being held responsible for it later - his great fear), had said plainly and clearly how tough the economic sanctions would be. Maybe that would have made the price seem too expensive? But Olaf did not want to name a price. There he is attackable because he named this and no other, lower or higher price. But no, not wioth this little weasel. Weasels do not do egg-dances, but just tiny-steps stepdances between the eggs, and only in the shadows of night.

To simply spin word phrases and present them as a substitute for non-existent own strength and determination - that's a hollow bluff, and little Olaf has been blown up with it with drum and trumpets. The garlands of words he now brandishes are simply an insidious conspiracy. According to his grandiose self-evidence, no one but the U.S. provides more aid and arms supplies than Germany. Note that the loud thunder of words "1 billion for the Bundeswehr plus 2% per anno!" already has been washed down, too, the 1 bn now will be counted and used for reaching that 2% goal. That cna work only for aroudn 5 years. then the money is gone, the additiuonal equiopoment will be needed to get constantly financed and maintained, but a fincial fundament a sprmsied has been deleted again already at the very bgeinning of the "new era" for the bundeswehr. He claiums the Bundeswehr in a few yeras will be the "biggest and strongest army in all Europe". I am not kidding, he used those words! Somebody should give him a link to Wikipedia, that alone would be good enough to do the counting. He would be surprised.

And this - militarily washed-up - Germany wants to be in charge of the NATO intervention forces in Eastern Europe...? Cklaims to be a ready guarantor os security for the Ukraine?



Großes Maul und nichts dahinter. World, you are warned of this Germany. DO NOT TRUST ITS BIGMOUTHED WORDS.


If Biden and Johnson also step down or are stepped down, then it looks bleak for Ukraine.

Couldn't have put it better myself

[Jimbuna]

[Jimbuna]

There's no let up in the battle for the eastern Ukrainian city of Severodonetsk with street fighting and heavy artillery fire.

President Volodymyr Zelensky says the fate of his country's eastern Donbas region may be decided in the battle.

Meanwhile, the UN's chief warns the war's impact on the world's "food security, energy and finance" is "severe"

António Guterres says he wants to find a deal "that allows for the safe export" of Ukrainian-produced food through the Black Sea.

Ukraine's President Zelensky has called for Russia to be expelled from the UN's Food and Agriculture Organization as a result of blockades at Ukrainian ports.

Russia announces it does not expect Gazprom to cut gas supplies to any more European customers as its roubles scheme - set up in response to Western sanctions - is functioning as intended.

[Jimbuna]

[Dargo]

Kremlin Receives Almost 42,000 Complaints on Missing Ukraine Soldiers

The Kremlin received nearly 42,000 complaints in April from the relatives of soldiers missing in Ukraine, investigative outlet iStories reported Thursday. Official data revealed that President Vladimir Putin’s administration received 41,666 requests related to missing or captured soldiers... https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/...igation-a77951

[Dargo]

Severodonetsk commander talks about house-to-house fighting in a rare update on the battle in Severodonetsk, the commander of a Ukrainian battalion says the Ukrainians are forcing the Russians into street battles. "Yesterday was a successful day for us. We launched a counteroffensive, and in some places we managed to push them back two streets. In other places they pushed us back, but only a building or two."

The Russians are said to have suffered hefty losses. "If it went like this every day, all this would be over soon," he says. But he also says his men suffer greatly from the lack of heavy weapons with which to answer the Russian artillery fire. "Even without these systems, we are holding up well. We were ordered to hold our position and that is what we are doing. It's incredible what surgeons do to save soldiers' lives without the proper resources."

[Jimbuna]

Two Britons, Aiden Aslin and Shaun Pinner are sentenced to death alongside Moroccan national Saaudun Brahim.

They appeared in a court in the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic, held by pro-Russian rebels and not internationally recognised.

Both British men were serving members of Ukraine’s armed forces.

Downing Street says it's deeply concerned and prisoners of war shouldn't be exploited for political purposes.

[Dargo]

Netherlands also supplies drones to Ukraine, accidentally revealed

The Ministry of Defense has also supplied drones to Ukraine, in addition to all kinds of other military equipment. This information was "accidentally" included in the Spring Memorandum, Minister Ollongren reported today in a letter to the Lower House. The drones in question are not armed drones; the Dutch army does not yet have them.

NATO had previously asked member states to be very cautious about sharing information about military support to Ukraine. The Cabinet did not want to make the delivery of drones public, but for unclear reasons the information has been included in the Spring Memorandum.
Over 130 million euros in aid

Moreover, the memo also mentioned an incorrect amount. Defense reported in the Spring Memorandum that at that time 73 million euros worth of military goods, drones and field hospitals had been delivered. A Defense spokesperson told NOS that this was an "old amount."

In mid-May, when the Spring Memorandum was sent out, 102 million euros worth of military aid had already been sent to Ukraine. Ollongren now writes that the Netherlands has provided over 130.4 million euros in material support.

The Ministry of Defense cannot provide additional information on which drones were sent to Ukraine, and how many. Presumably they are reconnaissance drones.

More has also become known recently about the five armored howitzers that the Netherlands has pledged to Ukraine. These mobile artillery cannons, with a range of up to 50 kilometers, are not yet on their way to the battlefield.

Ukrainian soldiers are currently receiving training in Germany to operate the armored howitzers. When this process is completed and the armored vehicles go to Ukraine, Ollongren could not say yesterday in the House of Representatives. However, she did say that the training is going well.

When it was announced that the Netherlands was going to send armored howitzers, it was explicitly stated that it would take some time before they could be properly deployed. They are advanced weapons and there is a lot more to it than just learning to aim and shoot.

Since the beginning of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, the West has been gradually supplying Kiev with heavier weapons. In the beginning, the Netherlands sent flak jackets, helmets and sniper rifles. As far as is known, the armored howitzers are the heaviest weapons that the Netherlands has promised Ukraine.

Recently, at NATO's request, much less has been disclosed about what military support member states are pledging or sending. On the one hand, to reduce the risk of further escalation of the conflict. On the other hand, to give Russia less insight into exactly what support Kiev is receiving.

[Dargo]

Ukraine will decide for itself when it is ready to resume talks with Russia and until then the Netherlands will continue to support Kiev militarily and politically, that emphasized Dutch Foreign Minister Hoekstra. According to him, it is important for the Netherlands to help Ukraine to appear as strong as possible on the battlefield, in order to subsequently acquire the strongest possible starting position once the talks are restarted. When that is, Kiev determines, Hoekstra underlined.

Ukraine stopped the talks because Russia did not put any serious proposals on the table, and because Ukraine was confronted with serious crimes against its own civilian population, Hoekstra said. At the same time, the minister underlined that President Zelensky also recognizes that there will come a time when negotiations will have to resume. Hoekstra dismissed the suggestion that some European countries, including France, are too anxious to "not humiliate" President Putin and to keep the conversation going. According to him, Europe is showing unity, although he acknowledged that it has taken "too long" for the seventh sanctions package to be finalized.

Asked about a future EU membership for Ukraine, Hoekstra said the Netherlands is waiting for the proposal of the European Commission. If it comes up with "a sensible opinion, you as the Netherlands must be prepared to look at it openly." According to him, it is a "human tendency" to say yes to everything when a country is fighting such a battle, but care remains necessary, Hoekstra said.

[Dargo]

'Ukraine loses 100 to 200 soldiers a day'

An advisor to President Zelensky says that lately, 100 to 200 Ukrainian soldiers are dying daily in the battle with the Russians. A few weeks back, according to Zelensky, there were 50 to 100 per day.

The death toll is rising rapidly because of the very heavy fighting in the Donbas, advisor Mychajlo Podoljak said in an interview with BBC Newshour https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w172yfbzw86mbbl . He calls it a very unequal fight because Russia can use far more heavy weapons than Ukraine.

According to Podoljak, his country needs hundreds of artillery systems of the most powerful kind that the West can provide. "As long as Russia does not suffer a major defeat, no dialogue is possible, and they will continue to try to take parts of our country."

[mapuc]

Following hasn't been confirmed(Finding article or government information)

A convoy have left eastern USA heading for the Black Sea

It was someone who wrote this in a livestream from Ukraine.
I've tried to find any information about this..without any luck.
(He said the information was available on White House homepage)

Maybe it's on it's way to the Baltic sea ?

Biden & Co have lots of material they need to be transported to Poland and from there to Ukraine.

Markus

[Skybird]

A senior Ukrainian presidential aide has told the BBC that between 100 and 200 Ukrainian troops are being killed on the front line every day.

Mykhaylo Podolyak said Ukraine needed hundreds of Western artillery systems to level the playing field with Russia in the eastern Donbas region.

He also said Kyiv is not ready to resume peace talks with Moscow.

Ukrainian troops are under relentless bombardment as Russian forces attempt to take control of the whole of Donbas.

"The Russian forces have thrown pretty much everything non-nuclear at the front and that includes heavy artillery, multiple rocket launch systems and aviation," Mr Podolyak said.

He repeated Ukraine's appeal for more weapons from the West, saying that the "complete lack of parity" between the Russian and Ukrainian armies was the reason for Ukraine's heavy casualty rate.

"Our demands for artillery are not just some kind of whim... but an objective need when it comes to the situation on the battlefield," he said, adding that Ukraine needs 150 to 300 rocket launch systems to match Russia - a much higher number than it has received so far.

Mr Podolyak also said peace talks could only resume if Russia surrendered the territory it had gained since it invaded on 24 February.

Mr Podolyak's suggestion that 100 to 200 Ukrainian soldiers are dying each day is higher than previous estimates. On Thursday, Ukraine's Defence Minister, Oleksii Reznikov, said Ukraine was losing 100 soldiers a day, and 500 more were injured.

The differing casualty figures are a sign of how difficult it is to get precise information from the battlefield.

Despite the heavy losses, Mr Reznikov claimed that a high number of Russian soldiers are also being killed.

"The Kremlin continues to press by sheer mass, stumbles, faces strong rebuffs and suffers huge casualties," Mr Reznikov said. "But yet still has forces to advance in some parts of the front."

Similarly, Luhansk regional governor Sergei Gaidai said Russians were "dying like flies" but echoed Mr Podolyak's claim that Ukraine is facing difficulties with a "catastrophic" lack of artillery.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61742736