Tesla: ‘There’s almost no reason to have a gas car’

Onkel Neal · 11-23-19, 06:17 PM

"Reliable"

Sorry, that mess looks like a low budget prop in B sci-fi movie that went straight to video.

Can you imagine the ignominy of being the first pedestrian killed by the cybertruck?

Buddahaid · 11-23-19, 07:37 PM

It's that way for a low radar profile....

Mr Quatro · 11-23-19, 08:54 PM

Don't forget that stainless steel car that old Detroit car executive made in Ireland became a collectors item and so shall this one.

Isn't this just a prototype? Not even on the road yet.

What if this one has the same batteries that explode.

Tesla talks big, but they take too long to deliver.

Buddahaid · 11-23-19, 09:18 PM

F1 thinks differently.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...BsjKyPiFf.html

“What we can do is we can show the world that there are alternatives to electric power and there are alternatives to storing electricity in heavy and, I have to say, somewhat dirty batteries,” Symonds concludes."

Onkel Neal · 11-24-19, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

Don't forget that stainless steel car that old Detroit car executive made in Ireland became a collectors item and so shall this one.

Isn't this just a prototype? Not even on the road yet.

What if this one has the same batteries that explode.

Tesla talks big, but they take too long to deliver.

That's a good point, this car could be worth 5x its purchase price in 20 years! Nice.

August · 11-24-19, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

Don't forget that stainless steel car that old Detroit car executive made in Ireland became a collectors item and so shall this one.

The DeLorean?

Catfish · 11-24-19, 01:40 PM

^ I liked that one, if not the boring Volvo innards.

Regading the Tesla pickup there are already 150,000 preorders

Onkel Neal · 11-24-19, 02:08 PM

I find that so hard to believe. Well, if they do sell, we will easily know it when we see them on the road.

Skybird · 11-24-19, 04:32 PM

Ignoring the ugly looks and taking it for granted it offers sufficient functionality and reliability, I have one question: how long lives the battery? I do not mean range per charge, i mean: how long until the batteries must be replaced, how many years? How long until they have lost a pratcial usage range when fully charged (because evry battery looses maximum capacity it can hold from first charging-uncharging cycle on)? Because that is what decides the material reselling value of e-cars, and so far it is a total mess. Just three years ago replacing the batteries of a Smart costed almost as much as buying a new car. And new battery technology enters the car production cycles three to four times a year, more or less. The tech standard in them ages very fast. And that means: loss of reselling value. Also keep on mind Musk'S business motto: he has said that he does not want to offer software updates and firmware updates on and on, but that he demands Tesla customers to buy new cars with new kits rather sooner than later.

So much for ecology and sustainability.

Here in germany a Tesla recently drove into a tree. It immediately went up in flames, and exploded. The drivers escaped quite closely, with burnings and fractures. The fire brigade had to store the car submersed in an aqua tank for days because Tesla could not tell them how to extinguish the ongoing chemical fires in the battery compartment. I repeat: the car was kept fully submersed in water FOR DAYS.

Hydrogen cells, okay, in the long run count me aboard. Japan goes for that, China seems to head into it, so does Korea apparently, at least they run both ways currently. But this battery madness Europe voted for exclusively? Lithium, dirty mining for it, the ecological footprint of building batteries, the unsolved infrastructure issue? Not with me. Some time ago I read about a calculation - in ecological means - regarding Diesel cars and Lithium battery cars. They said that there is a net gain in advantages not before some higher six-digit km distance driven in the e-car. I forgot the exact number, 180 thousand is on my mind, but I do not swear on it. All the hype and hysteria - for THIS...??? Calculates very badly. Very, very badly.

But helps to de-industrialise the West, especially Germany, and bring down the national economy and burgeoise society model. And that is what many want.

August · 11-23-19, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

"Reliable"

Sorry, that mess looks like a low budget prop in B sci-fi movie that went straight to video.

Can you imagine the ignominy of being the first pedestrian killed by the cybertruck?

He probably won't hear it coming.

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Mr Quatro Navy Seal Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 6,772 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Don't forget that stainless steel car that old Detroit car executive made in Ireland became a collectors item and so shall this one. Isn't this just a prototype? Not even on the road yet. What if this one has the same batteries that explode. Tesla talks big, but they take too long to deliver. __________________ pla•teau noun a relatively stable level, period, or condition a level of attainment or achievement Lord help me get to the next plateau ..

11-23-19, 09:18 PM	#4
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,576 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	F1 thinks differently. https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...BsjKyPiFf.html “What we can do is we can show the world that there are alternatives to electric power and there are alternatives to storing electricity in heavy and, I have to say, somewhat dirty batteries,” Symonds concludes." __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

11-24-19, 01:40 PM	#7
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,905 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	^ I liked that one, if not the boring Volvo innards. Regading the Tesla pickup there are already 150,000 preorders __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

11-24-19, 02:08 PM	#8
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,294 Downloads: 534 Uploads: 224	I find that so hard to believe. Well, if they do sell, we will easily know it when we see them on the road. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

11-24-19, 04:32 PM	#9
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,657 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Ignoring the ugly looks and taking it for granted it offers sufficient functionality and reliability, I have one question: how long lives the battery? I do not mean range per charge, i mean: how long until the batteries must be replaced, how many years? How long until they have lost a pratcial usage range when fully charged (because evry battery looses maximum capacity it can hold from first charging-uncharging cycle on)? Because that is what decides the material reselling value of e-cars, and so far it is a total mess. Just three years ago replacing the batteries of a Smart costed almost as much as buying a new car. And new battery technology enters the car production cycles three to four times a year, more or less. The tech standard in them ages very fast. And that means: loss of reselling value. Also keep on mind Musk'S business motto: he has said that he does not want to offer software updates and firmware updates on and on, but that he demands Tesla customers to buy new cars with new kits rather sooner than later. So much for ecology and sustainability. Here in germany a Tesla recently drove into a tree. It immediately went up in flames, and exploded. The drivers escaped quite closely, with burnings and fractures. The fire brigade had to store the car submersed in an aqua tank for days because Tesla could not tell them how to extinguish the ongoing chemical fires in the battery compartment. I repeat: the car was kept fully submersed in water FOR DAYS. Hydrogen cells, okay, in the long run count me aboard. Japan goes for that, China seems to head into it, so does Korea apparently, at least they run both ways currently. But this battery madness Europe voted for exclusively? Lithium, dirty mining for it, the ecological footprint of building batteries, the unsolved infrastructure issue? Not with me. Some time ago I read about a calculation - in ecological means - regarding Diesel cars and Lithium battery cars. They said that there is a net gain in advantages not before some higher six-digit km distance driven in the e-car. I forgot the exact number, 180 thousand is on my mind, but I do not swear on it. All the hype and hysteria - for THIS...??? Calculates very badly. Very, very badly. But helps to de-industrialise the West, especially Germany, and bring down the national economy and burgeoise society model. And that is what many want. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.