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Old 01-03-23, 06:36 PM   #391
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New England Mountains is a most beautifully created reserve. I can only reocmmend to at no cost miss this one. Its pure beauty.

All the game's reserves look great, but this one is a favourite of mine, beside the frozen Taiga.











Paws off my squirrels...!

I had to have it because it looks just like where I grew up, many years ago.

All the reserves are beautiful. Sometimes I hunt, other times I explore, and sometimes I ride the ATV like a mad man. I also collect weapons, calls, etc.

When I first started out, I hunted everything and took any game that looked reasonable. Now, I'm finicky. I only bother with trophies. And sometimes I go through periods of only hunting one species, usually Grizzly Bears.

It's a relaxing, slow paced game; perfect for when I don't feel like the usual military fare.

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I had to have it because it looks just like where I grew up, many years ago.

All the reserves are beautiful. Sometimes I hunt, other times I explore, and sometimes I ride the ATV like a mad man. I also collect weapons, calls, etc.

When I first started out, I hunted everything and took any game that looked reasonable. Now, I'm finicky. I only bother with trophies. And sometimes I go through periods of only hunting one species, usually Grizzly Bears.

It's a relaxing, slow paced game; perfect for when I don't feel like the usual military fare.


In Classic, you would have spoiled the hunt for trophies anyway if shooting everything that moves, because trophies were like high value assets : guarded by sort of a shield of "escorts". Shooting the escorts let the trophy escape, did not even let you know it ever was there. I think by tendency something like this is in place in COTW, too. But the much longer viewing distances help a lot, of course.

Myself, I focus on hunting males, trophies of any kind, I often spare the females, and I do like I think it would be done in reality. Highscores do not interest me. I never play the "missions". Nor am I overly concerned with ethical callibre choice, its enough if I get some money per kill to replace the ammo spent. Doing a clean shot is important for me. Plan to soon move more to arrows.

Like with any sim you get out what you put into it. Treat it like a game and hunt statistics, and your experience will lack simulative and situational immersion.

New England is a breathtaking map. I am enthusiastic about it. Beautiful. I absolutely love it, its changign colours and moods, the sights. It simply is a piece of art.

Have just bought a dog, due to the steam sale. Seems to work okay, but already starts to kill my nerves a bit. May be handy in some of the longer after searches.

I do not like the way you have to micromanage ammunition for every rifle and pistol, there is so many callibres and it makes buying the right one a real nuisance since you have to take some work to find out which ammo is for what rifle, even more so if the rifle has several ones. Some more automatization there for us non-experts on firearms and ca,llibre terminology would be welcomed.

Ran into an issue in Finland, when bagging dropped moose the game tends to crash when approaching the animal beyond maybe 50m or so. For me at least. Or it was area-related, I do not know.


The Mississippi map I found dissapointing by looks.
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In Classic, you would have spoiled the hunt for trophies anyway if shooting everything that moves, because trophies were like high value assets : guarded by sort of a shield of "escorts". Shooting the escorts let the trophy escape, did not even let you know it ever was there. I think by tendency something like this is in place in COTW, too. But the much longer viewing distances help a lot, of course.

Myself, I focus on hunting males, trophies of any kind, I often spare the females, and I do like I think it would be done in reality. Highscores do not interest me. I never play the "missions". Nor am I overly concerned with ethical callibre choice, its enough if I get some money per kill to replace the ammo spent. Doing a clean shot is important for me. Plan to soon move more to arrows.

Like with any sim you get out what you put into it. Treat it like a game and hunt statistics, and your experience will lack simulative and situational immersion.

New England is a breathtaking map. I am enthusiastic about it. Beautiful. I absolutely love it, its changign colours and moods, the sights. It simply is a piece of art.

Have just bought a dog, due to the steam sale. Seems to work okay, but already starts to kill my nerves a bit. May be handy in some of the longer after searches.

I do not like the way you have to micromanage ammunition for every rifle and pistol, there is so many callibres and it makes buying the right one a real nuisance since you have to take some work to find out which ammo is for what rifle, even more so if the rifle has several ones. Some more automatization there for us non-experts on firearms and ca,llibre terminology would be welcomed.

Ran into an issue in Finland, when bagging dropped moose the game tends to crash when approaching the animal beyond maybe 50m or so. For me at least. Or it was area-related, I do not know.


The Mississippi map I found dissapointing by looks.
I grew up in the Finger Lakes region of New York state, which looks pretty much exactly like the New England reserve. My family moved there from up in the Adirondack Mountains, which also look just like the New England reserve. Autumn can be very spectacular, when the leaves change color.

I try to stick with one shot, one kill. I've taken moose in the game with some very light calibers, one shot, but they were heart shots. I find something in the neighborhood of .30-06 to be a good all-arounder.

In real life, hunting Whitetail Deer (Odocoileus virginianus), you're apt to see the youngest doe first, followed by other doe, then young bucks. If you want a shot at the grand old man, you have to be patient and hold your fire. He's likely to be the last to come along. I suspect that it's probably like that with most species of cervids.

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I have never been to the US, but there were one or two episodes in one of my all time favourite TV series, Spenser, that had their plots set in scenery in New England in autumn, and that series was famous for - at its time - extremely costly intensive out-of-the-studio shooting (which stopped it after season 3, due to the costs and despite its enormous popularity). Back then I stared at those images from New England forests in autumn and all I could think was "Wowh". Beyond the series, the autumn in New England is world-famous, and I assume that is for a reason.
I have the whole series on VHS, in long play, because the - excellently dubbed - German versions were never released in Germany. I am happy that back then I always invested into top quality VHS tapes by Fuji, so the image quality is okay to watch, and for VHS even extremely good, still, after so many years. The recordings must be around 25 years old. Quesiton is whether my two Panasonic VHS recorders still would work, especially the rubber rings I am worried about. - I know there are Engloish-.voiced DVD of Sopenser, but I want the German dub - believe it or not, its better, the text choices, and the speaker's voices. Cant get used to the opriginal voices and texts, they lack the laconic irony the German edition added, and Robert Urich's original voice was - well, his German speaker simply sounds better and more appropriate for Urich's physical appearance and style, same for Avery Brooks.
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I have never been to the US, but there were one or two episodes in one of my all time favourite TV series, Spenser, that had their plots set in scenery in New England in autumn, and that series was famous for - at its time - extremely costly intensive out-of-the-studio shooting (which stopped it after season 3, due to the costs and despite its enormous popularity). Back then I stared at those images from New England forests in autumn and all I could think was "Wowh". Beyond the series, the autumn in New England is world-famous, and I assume that is for a reason.
I have the whole series on VHS, in long play, because the - excellently dubbed - German versions were never released in Germany. I am happy that back then I always invested into top quality VHS tapes by Fuji, so the image quality is okay to watch, and for VHS even extremely good, still, after so many years. The recordings must be around 25 years old. Quesiton is whether my two Panasonic VHS recorders still would work, especially the rubber rings I am worried about. - I know there are Engloish-.voiced DVD of Sopenser, but I want the German dub - believe it or not, its better, the text choices, and the speaker's voices. Cant get used to the opriginal voices and texts, they lack the laconic irony the German edition added, and Robert Urich's original voice was - well, his German speaker simply sounds better and more appropriate for Urich's physical appearance and style, same for Avery Brooks.
If you have a VHS deck and a PC with a DVD-writer, I think you can burn the VHS content onto DVD, preserving the German dub. My wife managed to copy a bunch of VHS tapes to DVD a few years back. I think she used RCA cables coming out of the back of the VHS player for video and audio, and somehow ran it into the computer, then burned it to DVD through some video editing software.
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Yeah, I now it can be done, but its not worth the hassle anymore, maybe. Also, it would be a huge work time investment. Its three seasons, 9 tapes with 8 hours longplay content each. And blurry picture.



I will maybe watch the series one more time in my life. If it works in that run, its okay. If not, then I could not even copy it to HD or DVD anymore anyway.



Things start and things end. Anything has its time. I liked CI-5 The Professionals a lot, but when i looked back at it a few years ago I realised that I could not watch it anymore - I simply have moved beyond it.
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Call of the Wild, ressources:


Wiki:

https://thehuntercotw.fandom.com/wik..._the_Wild_Wiki

Weapon classes, species classes per reserve:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=414347241

Species, needs and times per reserve:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1935086493

Ballistics, scope zeroing:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfil...?id=2079460161

Archery, bows, crossbows, arrows:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfil...?id=1412208842

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There is a shooting range at Hirschfelden, I think it was in the bottom right corner of the map, but I am not sure anymore.
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Thanks for the links. Getting info on matching cartridge to game was on to the to-do list today, and you already done did it for me


I bought the Master Hunter bundle so have more than just the normal starter kit, and it's good to know which weapons to use for which game. Of course it's already essentially known, but I have to understand how this particular game handles things. Like the .243 is considered a good match for a red deer?


What is meant by 'effective range'? Long range shooting isn't really a thing in Call of the Wild right? I mean, animals were clipping in and out of draw range at around 500 yards. Is there a way to increase this distance? An ini edit or something? In WotH you can see animals at 1000 yards and more. Not going to get a shot at them of course, but I like it a lot better than having them disappear after crossing the invisible line.


But at the same time 150 yards/meters seems a bit conservative for a high velocity round like a .270. Still, it's important to know how it works as modeled, not whether it's real-world accurate. But 'effective range' can mean many things I suppose.
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You can hit at 300m and more, but there is serious loss of kinetic energy and bullet drop simulkated, it seems. I have hit at these ranges, but the hits were followed by long after searches. I try to keep my shooting within 150-200 m, with lighter callibres rather shorter than longer.

Animals get rendered up to 500m or so, beyond that they become invisible, but are still there and do their things.

Trophies stay in the session if not harvested, but if you leave the session and then come back to harvest them later , they are gone.


Most recommended maps imo are the Taiga, Africa, Alaska, Colorado, New England. Africa is quite difrferent, huge hordes of stampeding big beats. Fear the Capetown buffalo (=widow maker). Its very aggressive,m it prusues you,a nd nit can really maul you up. Its also buggy a bit and tends to chas eoyu acropss all the map. Outrunnign it is no option - you have to kill it. Same with wolve packs in Alaska. If you run into one of them, the rest of the pack is after you, you need to kill several of them too to drive them off. I met them just once, it was a bad surprise - with the bad ending for me.



Siberian Taiga and New England are extremely beautiful. Watch again the trailer for the Taiga release .


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Thanks. It's odd that so many weapons would have a 150m effective range, but it's a game after all.

Those links you provided were helpful. I referred to the googledoc showing the animal class per map with the various cartridges and which class they are meant for several times during last night's session. Very useful.

I hunted Silver Ridge Peaks for a while, then swapped over to Layton Lakes to check out a new one. With the DLC I bought I have a number of free weapons, which cuts out the grind for new guns. Pricing is steep compared to the rate at which you earn money, so I could see how grindy it probably was at release. But these weapon packs put paid to that. .308, .223, ,22, ,30-06, the drilling rifle, bows, a crossbow and lots more are 'free' with the DLC, which of course means real money instead of in-game currency. Which in turn gives me a lot more freedom to chose a loadout and hunt the maps and eliminates the early-game gun progression I'd otherwise go through.

My impression of Call of the Wild improved considerably in session two. The safari theme park vibe I got at the start has receded. Maybe those animals were just placed in such a way so that a new player newly spawned felt the world teeming with game, which it is, but this way you can see it right from the off.

It looks fantastic, especially in a wide-view sense. At the closest ranges it shows it's age I think, but when you take in the greater vistas it is simply beautiful. The render ranges for stuff like vegetation and animals is rather low which hurts it, but this game had to run on PS4 and X Box six years ago so I get it. Sunlight and shadow are nicely done. Fog and rain.

One of the things I felt lacking when playing Way of the Hunter was statistics. And while Call of the Wild isn't extensive, it does track and display more detail from the player's hunting career which I like.

I bought the Master Hunter edition because I thought it had everything the Seasoned Hunter edition does, plus more reserves maps. But I failed to notice only Seasoned Hunter has the tents DLC, which I think I I should get. There's a lot of DLC for this game.
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If you want statistics and excissve logging of thes,e ewvrything, then Hunte rclassic is your choice, and by a far lead so.

By statistics I once was amongst the 300 "best" players worldwide. They then changed the system, and I had a break form having overplayed it, and so that went down.

https://thehunter.fandom.com/de/wiki/TheHunter_Wikia

Classic still does some thignbs better than COTA, amognst them huntign with the air rifle, becasue here the mils in the scope really mean something, must be manually adjusted to compensate for bullet drop. Hunting rabbits with it in Australia really is a different game.

There is a reason why Classic just refuses to die and is still popular both with new players and old veterans. 14 years, counting! So many memories. An absolute highlight in my gaming "career", though it never was perfect, and still is not, and I have had my quarrels with it and with the devs. But weighing in all pros and cos, and by the end of the day: an absolute highlight in my gamer's life, and I have lots of love for it.



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Thanks for the recommendation once again. It's actually free to play now right? No expiring licenses and that sort of thing anymore right?


I think Classic is dipping further in to the past than I want to go right now, but you never know. I imagine I'd like it fine, but with the two I am currently playing my dance card is full enough at the mo.
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I did not know that they put real world locations into the game!


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I did indeed add two more DLC to my CotW install, the tents and blinds, and the ATV. The tent is handy on long hunts, or if real life suddenly intervenes, you can plop down a save point right here. Or swap loadout, buy ammo, whatever. The problem is it weighs 6 (kilos, pounds, whatever it is) and that limits other stuff you can carry and still keep under the "make more noise and be more visible" threshold.

This wouldn't be a big deal if the rangefinder sight for my bow wasn't so fookin' heavy. It weighs four times what a rifle scope does. Why?

I'm having a good time with Call of the Wild. I prefer the hunting sim in Way of the Hunter if I'm honest. It's just closer to what I want out of a hunting game when out in the field, tracking game, taking shots. But if I set that aside, the rest of Call of the Wild expands on what WotH is.


-- Maps/Reserves. No contest here. I can find little fault in the way the reserves in either game are done. Beautiful, huge, diverse. But Call of the Wild has so many more to choose from. Admittedly, some are not that much of a switch, like New England, Layton Lake District and Hirschfelden aren't that much different really. But they are still different maps, with some variation in populated game, and more so in Europe of course.

And while CotW does have all of these maps to hunt, they are individual DLC at 8 bucks a pop. Two reserves are included in the base game, and there are ten as DLC. Some gear is also behind these DLC paywalls, like the muzzleloader and .300 Win Mag rifle.

-- Animals. Again, CotW is a clear winner here in terms of sheer variety with more than 80 unique animal species to hunt. By comparison, WotH is around 20. Big difference, but expect that gap to close over time.

But WotH hits back when considering animal behavior and animations. It is much more convincing in this game than CotW. I've got hunting experience, and one spot Way of the Hunter is off a bit is how closely the animal herds stand and travel together. They should be more spaced out. I also find the way birds flush to be rather unconvincing in Way of the Hunter and I hope the devs look at these two areas to fine tune otherwise impressive animal behavior modeling.

-- Weapons and gear. Yeah, Way of the Hunter suffers here too. I might expect that this gap too will close over time. But it's not a given. Bows, crossbows and handguns give Call of the Wild diversity that Way of the Hunter cannot match. The bow hunting is fun too.

It's been out a lot longer, and like mentioned some of this kit is locked behind paywalls. It remains to be seen how WotH will handle expansion, but so far what's been added has been done for 'free'. And it's not just weapons, but callers, scents, blinds and stands and more that Call of the Wild has in abundance.

-- The hunting. This is what it's all about right? I have to give the nod to Way of the Hunter. It just feels more realistic to me. The stalking, animal behavior and shooting feels more like actual hunting. But when you step back and consider all the other stuff that surrounds it -- like the aforementioned maps, animal types, kit and gear -- the two games round out in about the same spot for me. If Way of the Hunter ever approaches Call of the Wild for sheer content, I think the choice between the two will be clear for me.

But that's a big if, and the way things stand right now I see plenty to like from both games.
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