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Old 10-07-22, 12:48 AM   #7096
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Students from the Kherson region are to be taken to the Crimean peninsula. This is according to an official decree of the local administration. From October 6 to 21, it has also been ordered that no classes will be held in Kherson.

The children are to officially participate in a "health program" in Crimea. "Educational events, exciting trips and meetings with interesting people await them," the decree says.


Russian cowardly scum, now behaving like Muslim terrorists hiding behind mothers and little children while sniping at their victims.
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Wouldn't expect much else from Putrid and his cowardly henchmen!!
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The risk of a nuclear "Armageddon" is at its highest level since the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis, US President Joe Biden has said.

Mr Biden said Russia's President Vladimir Putin was "not joking" when he spoke of using tactical nuclear weapons after suffering setbacks in Ukraine.

The US was "trying to figure out" Mr Putin's way out of the war, he added.

The US and the EU have previously said Mr Putin's nuclear sabre-rattling should be taken seriously.

However, the US National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan last week said that, despite Moscow's nuclear hints, the US had seen no signs that Russia was imminently preparing to use a nuclear weapon.
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Two Russian nationals have been detained by US officials after arriving in a small boat on St Lawrence Island in Alaska.

According to the two US senators who represent the state, the men landed at a beach in the village of Gambell and requested asylum in the country.

A Department of Homeland Security (DHS) spokesperson said the duo's asylum claim was currently being processed.

Thousands have fled Russia to avoid being conscripted for war in Ukraine.

Gambell - home to less than 500 permanent residents - sits on the north-western cape of St Lawrence Island. The island is located some 36 miles (56km) from Russia's Chukchi Peninsula, meaning it is closer to Russia than it is to the Alaskan mainland. According to local media, Gambell residents can see the Russian territory of Siberia across the sea.

A local town clerk told the KTUU news station that the men had sailed there from the city of Egvekinot in north-eastern Russia, a journey of about 300 miles (480km) by sea, and have since been flown off the island.

DHS said the men came ashore "in a small boat on Tuesday" and had been flown to Anchorage, Alaska's largest city, for "vetting and screening".

At a news conference on Wednesday, Alaska Governor Mike Dunleavy said their arrival "was a surprise to us".

"We don't anticipate a continual stream of individuals or a flotilla of individuals. We have no indication that's going to happen, so this may be a one-off," he added.
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NEW - Ukraine's Zelensky calls on NATO to launch "preemptive strikes" against Russia to "eliminate the possibility" of a Russian nuclear strike.
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I guess this is faux news, like the recent "proposal" Zelensky is said to have made to germans, to pay 400 Euros each to support Ukraine.

Russian disinformation and diversion campaigns at work, to discredit and sow mistrust between western partners.

Not that the US Fox news, or the german right-wing AfD or the left-wing Die Linke, do not openly have a lot of sympathy for Putin and his politics. Birds of a feather and all that, whatever their alleged political branch they all share a love for dictatorship and fascism.
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I guess this is faux news, like the recent "proposal" Zelensky is said to have made to germans, to pay 400 Euros each to support Ukraine.

Russian disinformation and diversion campaigns at work, to discredit and sow mistrust between western partners.

Not that the US Fox news, or the german right-wing AfD or the left-wing Die Linke, do not openly have a lot of sympathy for Putin and his politics. Birds of a feather and all that, whatever their alleged political branch they all share a love for dictatorship and fascism.
Could be I do not understand Ukrainian so the subtitle translation in the video could be wrong.

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Why are they there and what is their purpose ?

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Four Russian vessels - a tug, a tanker and two frigates - are currently anchored in Aalbæk Bay, about 35 kilometres east of Aalbæk and 20 kilometres north of Læsø. This is confirmed by the Defence Command.

The Russian SAR vessel Nina Sokolova has been anchored in Aalbæk Bay since Sunday, flanked by two frigates. Now another Russian ship has arrived and is close to the Russian SAR ship.

It is not known why the Russian vessels are anchored in international waters.

- They are in a waiting position. That is as close as we can get, the Defence Command said on Thursday morning.

And while the Russian vessels are in a holding pattern, the Danish authorities are keeping a very close eye on them

Two ships cannot be traced
Thetis, one of the Navy's inspection ships, is staying close to the Russian vessels, and Vesselfinder shows the Danish inspection ship circling the Russian vessels, which are visible on Vesselfinder.

The two frigates closer to Læsø have switched off their AIS systems, which means that they cannot be seen on the surveillance.

A French naval vessel is also in the Kattegat close to the Russian vessels. The French vessel rounded Grenen on Thursday morning, heading for the area about 35 kilometres east of Aalbæk, where the Russian ships are together with the Danish inspection vessel.

- We always keep an eye on what is happening, but it is no more or less than normal, the Defence Command tells TV2 Nord.

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Wouldn't expect much else from Putrid and his cowardly henchmen!!

Putrid. Why didn't I think of that. Tell us what you really think, Reece.



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Two Russian nationals have been detained by US officials after arriving in a small boat on St Lawrence Island in Alaska.

According to the two US senators who represent the state, the men landed at a beach in the village of Gambell and requested asylum in the country.

A Department of Homeland Security (DHS) spokesperson said the duo's asylum claim was currently being processed.

Thousands have fled Russia to avoid being conscripted for war in Ukraine.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63160469

I saw this as well. I good number of officials including in Finland have raised concerns on this mass exodus from Russia. Officials fear that " dissenters " from Russia may in fact be " plants " sent to disrupt whatever host country they end up in.

I would be more inclined to give them ( the Russian people fleeing their country ) the benefit of the doubt and monitor them. Although, monitoring that many people would be a daunting if not impossible task.

It seems the best and brightest of Russia are leaving and the " brain drain " from Soviet Russia could be a great thing in a number of ways. For one, they ( Russian Dissidents ) wouldn't be fighting in a war they don't believe in so there is an obvious reduction in the Russian numbers at the front.

Secondly, I would assume that most Russians are like everyone else in the world and want to be educated and to live a meaningful and secure life and not be at war and / or fighting with everyone. Like everyone else, they want the same for their children. Their education and drive and ambitions could be a good thing.


Understandably, this is made with a good number of assumptions which may or may not be true. However, it may be worth exploring.
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Expert: Three scenarios left for Putin

The war in Ukraine is likely to have a deadly outcome for the Russian president, says expert

There is no doubt that the past weeks of fighting in Ukraine have given the Ukrainian forces blood on their teeth.

Despite Putin's recent annexation of four Ukrainian regions, several experts tell Dagbladet and Expressen, among others, that Russian forces are forced to dance to the tune of the Ukrainians.

According to the Swedish newspaper Expressen, Putin even has only three scenarios left - and none of them is winning the battle in Ukraine.

Dismissed, killed or suicide
Senior analyst at the Institute for Psychological Defence in Sweden Per Enerud sees no bright future for the Russian president.

According to him, there is a high probability that the president will not come out of the war alive.

- Either he will be deposed, killed or commit suicide, Enerud tells the newspaper.

Russia expert at the Institute for Foreign Policy in Sweden Hugo von Essen also does not see much chance for Russia.

- Putin will be forced to abandon Ukraine if the Russian army collapses, is defeated or forced out of the country, says Hugo von Essen.

The meat grinder
President Putin has just mobilised 300,000 Russian troops, but experts don't think that will give Russia much chance of winning either.

- The new forces won't get much training or weapons before they are sent to the 'meat grinder', says Palle Ydstebø, a colonel lieutenant at the Norwegian Defence College, to the Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet.

Despite the many recent defeats, Putin still seems to have the support of the Russian people.

According to the independent Russian Analysis Centre, as many as 77% of the population support the president, while 21% are against him.

And if Russia ends up being chased out of Ukraine, even that will not make Putin admit defeat to the Russian people.

According to Ydstebø, the Ukrainians stop fighting at the border with Russia, and so Putin will announce through the state-controlled media that Russia has succeeded in defending its borders against the West.

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The world needs to stop with this Woke sentiment that somehow this is the work of one crazy maniac (Putin) and all those poor Russians suffer under his regime. The vast majority of Russians support their leader and the war on Ukraine.

The only solution to this conflict is the complete breakup of Russia. Divide the land between semi-reliable Chinese interests, Saudi partners and create a Greater European Union. I think countries like Germany, Poland and Ukraine should be given large tracts of Russian land and access to a free Russian labor force to compensate for the burdens placed on these nations.
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According to the European Centre for Medium-termed Weather Forecast ECMWF, this coming winter will become extraordinarily cold in Europe, due to the weather phenomenon La Nina.

Well...

For gas consumers, and all consumers, and the fincial amrkets, and state budgets and inflation fighters, bad news.

For the Ukraine maybe good news: in the past two years, their winters I read were mild and the ground did not freeze, but if it freezes this time, this will allow them to press on their tank operations into winter. What is decisive, I assume at least, is whether there will be a quick progression from conditions as they are now into fropozen groudn cidnitoons, or if these two pohases are separated by a long inteirm pohase of muddy conditi0ns that is lon enpough to interrupot the offensive later this year. The US had told Ukraine it urgently need to gain more reconquests before winter comes, assuming that the offensive in a mild winter would completely bog down in mud.

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The former commander-in-chief of U.S. land forces in Europe (U.S. Army Europe), Ben Hodges, has again referred to the possible recapture of Ukrainian troops. "I predict that the Ukrainians will push the Russians back to the Feb. 23 line by the end of the year," Hodges told U.S. broadcaster Channel-4, adding that includes recapturing the Crimean peninsula, which was annexed in 2014.

He said Russian troops were weakening with each passing week, while Ukrainian troops tended to grow stronger. Ben Hodges was commander-in-chief of U.S. land forces in Europe between 2014 and 2017.
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The operational update regarding the #russian_invasion on 18.00, on October 7, 2022.
Glory to Ukraine! The two hundred-twenty-sixth (226) day of the heroic resistance of the Ukrainian people to a russian military large-scale invasion continues.

The enemy is trying to hold the temporarily captured territories, is concentrating its efforts on attempts to disrupt the active actions of the Defence Forces in certain directions, and at the same time is conducting offensive actions in the Bakhmut and Avdiyivka directions.

The enemy is shelling the positions of our troops along the contact line, carrying out engineering equipment of defensive lines and positions in certain directions and conducting aerial reconnaissance. Strikes civilian infrastructure and civilian homes, violating international humanitarian law, laws and customs of war.

There remains the threat of air and missile strikes on the entire territory of Ukraine. During the day, the occupiers launched 2 rocket and 5 air strikes, launched more than 10 MLRS attacks.

Objects and civilian population of more than 10 settlements were damaged by enemy strikes. Among them - Ridkodub, Hulyaipilske, Novoandriyivka, Zaporizhzhya, Mykolayiv, Slavhorod.

The enemy used 4 Iranian-made Shahed-136 unmanned aerial vehicles to strike the populated areas of Zaporizhzhya and Mykolayiv.

The situation in the Volyn and Polissya directions has not changed significantly.

In other directions, the russian occupiers carried out shelling:

in the Siversky direction - from mortars and barrel artillery, in the areas of Senkivka and Yasna Polyana settlements of Chernihiv oblast, as well as Seredyna Buda, Fotovнzh, Boyaro-Lezhachi, Ryzhivka, Holyshivske, Kiyanytsia, Myropillya, Mezenivka and Slavhorod of Sumy oblast;

in the Slobozhanskyi direction - from tanks, mortars, barrel and jet artillery, in the areas of Basove, Hlyboke, Vysoka Yaruga, Krasne, Strilecha, Starytsa, Hatyshche, Vovchansk, Volokhivka and Dvorichna settlements;

in the Kramatorsk direction - from mortars, barrel and jet artillery, in the areas of Terny, Raihorodok, Spirne, Bilohorivka, Verkhnokamianske, Serebryanka, Hryhorivka, Torske, Ivanivka and Hrekivka settlements;

in the direction of Bakhmut, the enemy shelled the areas of Bilohorivka, Yakovlivka, Soledar, Bakhmut, Bakhmutske, Ivanhrad, Opytne, Mayorsk, Vyimka, Rozdolivka, Vesele, Zaitseve and Odradivka settlements;

in the Avdiyivka direction, the enemy inflicted fire damage in the areas of the settlements of Avdiyivka, Kamianka, Novobakhmutivka, Maryinka, Krasnohorivka, Vodyane, Pervomaiske and Novomykhailivka.

On the Novopavlivskyi and Zaporizhzhya directions, the infrastructure in the districts of Novoukrainka, Pavlivka, Neskuchne, Chervone, Hulyaipole and Novopole was damaged by enemy shelling.

In the South Buh direction, more than twenty settlements near the contact line were affected by fire.

Units of the Defence Forces of Ukraine repelled enemy attacks in the areas of Vyimka, Bakhmutske, Krasna Hora, Bakhmut, Mayorsk, Andriyivka, Pervomaiske, Vesele, Kamianka, Pobyeda, Nevelske, Novomykhailivka, and Ternovy Pody.

The russian occupation authorities continue to put pressure on the citizens of Ukraine who remained in the temporarily occupied territory of the Donetsk oblast. According to available information, in some areas of the city of Horlivka, representatives of "security structures" intimidate local residents who did not support the joining of the temporarily occupied region to the russian federation in an illegal referendum. Men who avoid mobilization continue to be identified, detained and forcibly sent to units of the 1st Army Corps to replace casualties.

According to the available information, there are significant problems with the material support of the mobilization measures carried out by the military leadership of the russian federation. Thus, at the beginning of October, of the 8,000 demobilized persons staying at the base of the Novosibirsk Higher Command School, no more than half were provided with military uniforms. In addition, only field uniforms and shoes are issued to the specified personnel. The rest of the equipment must be bought at your own expense or try to get it from the local authorities as humanitarian aid. The issue of providing the mobilized with helmets and body armor remains problematic.

The russian occupiers continue to suffer losses in the south of our country. Thus, in the area of ​​Kakhovka, Kherson oblast, the destruction of personnel and military equipment, including air defence equipment, has been confirmed. Also, as a result of effective fire damage to the area of ​​the enemy's concentration near the village of Borozenske, on October 5 of this year, the losses of the enemy amounted to 10 people killed and about 20 wounded.

Aviation of the Defence Forces carried out 11 strikes during the day. It was confirmed that 8 places of concentration of weapons and military equipment, as well as 3 anti-aircraft missile systems of the enemy were destroyed. In addition, our air defence units shot down two UAVs and two enemy helicopters.

Rocket troops and artillery hit one area of ​​concentration of manpower, weapons and military equipment, a pontoon crossing and a WED complex in a day.

We believe in the Armed Forces! Together we will win! Glory to Ukraine!

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Key figures including Wagner Group’s Yevgeny Prigozhin are using military defeats to undermine defence chief Sergei Shoigu
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Friends, rivals and enemies took their seats in the Grand Kremlin Palace as Vladimir Putin gathered the country’s elite to formalise Russia’s illegal annexation of four occupied regions in Ukraine.

The ceremony was meant to portray strength and unity, but within 24 hours had been overshadowed by Russia’s failures on the battlefield. These losses, which continued into this week on the southern and eastern fronts in Ukraine, have led to a major, unprecedented rupture within the ruling class as the Kremlin seeks scapegoats for a series of military embarrassments.

The following account is based on 15 interviews with former government and defence officials, members of the military, political observers, journalists, opposition members, and an inmate at a prison where Wagner founder Yevgeny Prigozhin recruited soldiers to join his mercenary group in Ukraine. https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ns-war-falters
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According to a report in the Financial Times, there has recently been an increase in failures of the "Starlink" satellites of the SpaceX company in Ukraine. These satellites have been providing Internet access in Ukraine for many months and also support Ukrainian troops in war planning.

According to an officer of the Ukrainian troops, the failures have already resulted in "catastrophic" communication losses. Experts announce devastating consequences in case of further restriction.
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Military officials in Ukraine fear a secret agreement between SpaceX CEO Elon Musk and Russian President Vladimir Putin. Musk already caused a stir earlier this week when he launched polls on Twitter about possible "peace plans" for Ukraine. The proposals showed strong similarities to the Kremlin's demands.

The Ukrainian side expressed indignation at the tweets and also responded via the short message service. "The only result is that no Ukrainian will ever buy your ****ing Tesla crap," outgoing Ukrainian Ambassador to Germany Andrey Melnyk wrote, "**** off is my diplomatic response to you."

Ukrainian President Volodomyr Selenskyj also responded with a sarcastic tweet in Elon Musk's direction.

The weekly newspaper "The Economist" now suspects that Vladimir Putin may persuade Musk to completely withdraw access to "Starlink" for Ukraine. He has already denied a request for access from the annexed Crimean peninsula, according to Ukrainian sources.

Outages often occur during counter-offensives

What is striking about the outages in Ukraine is that they usually occurred at the same time as conquests by Ukrainian troops, thus weakening counteroffensives. The failures were reported from Kherson, Zaporizhzhya, Kharkiv, and Donetsk and Luhansk. Ukraine recently made strong advances in these same regions.

Several Ukrainian soldiers confirmed the sudden satellite outage during ongoing fighting. Western military officials also confirmed outages but would not elaborate on their claims.

The coordinator of an organization that had donated "Starlink" satellites to Ukraine indicated that SpaceX was simply trying to prevent possible misuse. "For me it is absolutely clear that this is done by representatives of Starlink to prevent the use of their technology by the Russian occupation forces," he told the Financial Times.

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If its true that Musk collaborates with the Kremlin, he must, by any means, be taken care of. Such action to drive a dagger into the Ukrainians' back cannot be tolerated, at no cost.
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