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Old 05-12-22, 10:05 AM   #46
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https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/12/p...ips/index.html


The ship class I early wrongly refused to as "katamarans". I reloeatedly red about these in the opast years, and always it was trouble. Mechanical failures unreliable engines, poor weapon suite, poor ammo reserves especially missiles, and poor and sensors. Even the speed and agility is put into relation against the apparent higher rate of problems wioth the engine/propulsion system.



^ I base that only on media reports. But I do not like this class. And I am apparently not alone with that. The concept and the execution are not up to the challenges the fleet of these ships is meant to meet, I think. I would not be surprised if they decide to let them disappear alltogether, all of them, not all at once to evade too much negative attention by the public, but getting rid of them all over time.
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If I should meet China's President face to face I would say to him.

" I know you are uncertain on what steps USA may take if you try to invade Taiwan.

I tell you it is not in USA or other western country an interest in starting WWIII what you can count on is USA giving military aid and defensive help to Taiwan.

USA will provide Taiwan with intelligence about your army and its movement."

Even though there are some military agreement between USA, Taiwan and some other island near China-USA are not interested in a war with China.

Nor is China..

(Could be wrong though)

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Give em to Ukraine.
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An article I remember to have red when it was first released.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/25/a...dst/index.html

Speed does not help you when missiles are flying.
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Give em to Ukraine.
And who maintains them...? A ship is not just a truck. Its a bit more ... complicated...
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And who maintains them...? A ship is not just a truck. Its a bit more ... complicated...
Worry about the maintenance later.....Ukraine needs them now.
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Same problem that the second CNN article above mentions: you do not want to be in harms way with a ship as vulnerable to engine and techncial breakdown as these seem to be.



Also, crew training. Which includes engineering. Damage control. I just assume you do not learn this in one crash course over the weekend. Bridge electronics. Pitiful sonar. The Russians still have some frigates left, and submartines, and corvettes, and it seems the sinking of the Makarow was a wrong message.



The French delivered them corvettes. One or two of these got blown up already in the beginning of the war, I seem to recall.
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Have them tied up alongside piers and leave the stars and stripes hoisted then see if Putrid has got the cojones to attack them
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^ Guess many fear that Russia may attack Finland-No such thing

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Given Finland's closeness to NATO I don't think Putin will try to invade he has enough problems trying to save face right now with Ukraine.

Ukraine although has some limited modern weapons is not Finland which has very advanced western weapons and tactics.

LCS in the Black sea would be well sitting targets, the only good thing they would be is decoys.
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