Here we go again-Ukraine once again

[Jimbuna]

[mapuc]

Erdogan says absolutely NO to Sweden and Finland he also said that their diplomatically effort will not change his mind.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Probably waiting on being offered incentives/bribes.

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Probably waiting on being offered incentives/bribes.

This is about a long-standing frustration with the Turkish government. Countries like Sweden and Finland, but according to Erdoğan also the Netherlands, give asylum to people who are labeled as terrorists in Turkey. This includes, for example, supporters of the Gülen Movement, which Turkey believes is responsible for the failed coup in 2016. But especially also about Kurdish fighters.

Turkey has been at war for decades with the PKK, which is also listed as a terror group in the EU. Turkey claims that both Sweden and Finland are harboring PKK fighters. The point is that Turkey also sees Syrian fighters of the YPG as an offshoot of the PKK and thus also dismisses them as terrorists. While Western countries have actually supported that YPG in the fight against Islamic State.

Erdoğan seizes this opportunity to put this in the spotlight. Especially now, there is an important decision on which all NATO countries must agree. Also, he needs this for his own goal to be reelected think bribes will help a lot certainly with Turkish economical state gone down the drain.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Dargo

This is about a long-standing frustration with the Turkish government. Countries like Sweden and Finland, but according to Erdoğan also the Netherlands, give asylum to people who are labeled as terrorists in Turkey. This includes, for example, supporters of the Gülen Movement, which Turkey believes is responsible for the failed coup in 2016. But especially also about Kurdish fighters.

Turkey has been at war for decades with the PKK, which is also listed as a terror group in the EU. Turkey claims that both Sweden and Finland are harboring PKK fighters. The point is that Turkey also sees Syrian fighters of the YPG as an offshoot of the PKK and thus also dismisses them as terrorists. While Western countries have actually supported that YPG in the fight against Islamic State.

Erdoğan seizes this opportunity to put this in the spotlight. Especially now, there is an important decision on which all NATO countries must agree. Also, he needs this for his own goal to be reelected think bribes will help a lot certainly with Turkish economical state gone down the drain.

I'll readily admit I'm no fan of Erdogan and consider Turkey a bit of a potential liability in its role as a NATO member.

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I'll readily admit I'm no fan of Erdogan and consider Turkey a bit of a potential liability in its role as a NATO member.

He is, EU done a deal that Turkey would harbor Syrian refugees and paid billions for it what does Erdoğan couple years later he opens border to Greece to get more money. There is little chance that Sweden and Finland will extradite, but on the issue of arms embargoes against Turkey, there may be something to gain. Restricting arms sales to Turkey have been a thorn in its side for years. Turkey is also keen to buy F-16s from the US.

[Dargo]

The European Commission, France and Germany all announced that European energy companies should be allowed to pay for gas in rubles at a closed meeting between EC representatives and EU diplomats in Brussels on late Friday evening.

Poland & the Netherlands were outraged. Poland’s PM Mateusz Morawiecki says that he is disappointed by how the EU is handling the issue and says that Russia unilaterally cut Poland off from Russian gas in breach of the contract signed between the two. At the meeting, the French side went even further and said that European companies could open bank accounts in rubles in Russian banks without this being an act that goes against EU sanctions.

https://businessinsider.com.pl/gospo...je/ps6e3dw.amp

[Dargo]

Seriously wounded Azov fighters were evacuated from Azovstal and taken to Donetsk, occupied by Russia. Azov commander Denys Prokopenko asked the public not to blame them for this decision. Zelenskyy will personally tell all the information on Azovstal in his evening address.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Dargo

The European Commission, France and Germany all announced that European energy companies should be allowed to pay for gas in rubles at a closed meeting between EC representatives and EU diplomats in Brussels on late Friday evening.

Poland & the Netherlands were outraged. Poland’s PM Mateusz Morawiecki says that he is disappointed by how the EU is handling the issue and says that Russia unilaterally cut Poland off from Russian gas in breach of the contract signed between the two. At the meeting, the French side went even further and said that European companies could open bank accounts in rubles in Russian banks without this being an act that goes against EU sanctions.

https://businessinsider.com.pl/gospo...je/ps6e3dw.amp

If true ^, I wish the US would intervene and threaten - and impose - sanctions on according EU companies of the kind they threatened against German companies related to Nord Stream 2 last year and the years before.

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Bad news. Are there any known weaknesses? (asking for a friend)

[Dargo]

Denys Prokopenko, the commander of Azov special regiment, said on May 16 that Ukrainian soldiers at Azovstal have "fulfilled their orders" and "were distracting the Russian army for 82 days." The statement appeared to signal the end of the siege of Azovstal, the steel plant that remains the last Ukrainian-held part of Mariupol.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Bad news. Are there any known weaknesses? (asking for a friend)

Should be a match for certain atgms, obviously a tank's cannon, artillery, high flying drones, AT mines.

[FUBAR295]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Bad news. Are there any known weaknesses? (asking for a friend)

If they store the Ammo inside the turret they will go up just like the other Russian tanks.

[Dargo]

Apparently, one Russian KGB lieutenant colonel equals one Austrian corporal as military strategist.

Vladimir Putin has become so personally involved in the Ukraine war that he is making operational and tactical decisions “at the level of a colonel or brigadier”, according to western military sources...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...estern-sources

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Bad news. Are there any known weaknesses? (asking for a friend)

The ‘Terminator’ is scary but so are the BMP’s, T-72’s and T-90 ‘s all are very formidable weapons and in the right hands should have been more than enough to get the job done. But, I got a feeling the ‘Terminator’s’ weakness is the same as the battle tanks and BMP’s. First, it’s an Armata Chassis which if Im not mistaken lack numbers, then there’s poor logistical support, lack of a defined objective, little to no air or ground support, poor communications, and most likely only a small pool of trained and experienced crews from which to draw.

But then if Ukraine can no longer fight because of their own possible loses of which we don’t often if ever hear about. Who knows what might be the straw that brakes the camels back.

A few months old but a decent analysis of why Russia appears to be getting its arse kicked by Ukraine. He calls things like the Armata “Prestige weapons”