A "painting" worth 62 million?

Skybird · 03-23-21, 03:47 PM

I'm not sorry to say: all I see is just smearing. A real painter's palette may look like this after he mixed some oil or acryl colour on it. Or the floor of the atelier after the shelf with the open paint cans dropped and spilled them all over the place.

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-56495039

I dont understand this world anymore. 62 millions - for smearing.

Aktungbby · 03-23-21, 03:56 PM

nuthin new here, Jackson Pollock did it decades ago, (abstract expressionism) and one this works is a key feature featured in Ben Afflect's movie, The Accountant

Platapus · 03-23-21, 05:31 PM

"Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it." -Publilius Syrus... or Leonard Nimoy

stork100 · 03-23-21, 08:21 PM

Check out the recent $69 million sale of this digital artwork:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/enter...49a_story.html

Catfish · 03-24-21, 04:01 AM

"Virtual value", breathtaking new concept. Like bitcoin and all that

Platapus · 03-24-21, 05:48 AM

It is also important to realize that with these types of sales and charities, that the tax laws concerning contributions can often come in to play.

In the US, this type of thing is not uncommon. I would imagine that this painting will end up either in another auction or will be donated to some art museum which can also result in tax benefits

Jimbuna · 03-24-21, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus

"Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it." -Publilius Syrus... or Leonard Nimoy

True that

iambecomelife · 03-26-21, 06:57 PM

I appreciate that this is for a worthy cause, but I dislike these artistic trends. I am an amateur artist. Good art has elements of craftsmanship, order, and intentional application of media. Not the relentless pursuit of shock value (for instance, in London several years ago they exhibited paintings that were smears of the artist's feces).

I have a friend who is a professional artist, and he is sick of his paintings losing in contests to submissions that are literally made out of garbage. It's frustrating.

At least most abstract artists don't seem to use their bodily wastes for "artwork", but at the rate things are going - what will artists resort to for shock value 20 years from now?

Eichhörnchen · 03-26-21, 07:10 PM

^ I've been a professional painter for most of my life and I agree with you entirely

Skybird · 03-26-21, 07:47 PM

So do I! From the bottom of my heart!

Art, that also refers to artistry, craftsmanship, skill. Qualities that are not owned by everbyody. Not everybody can create art, just by random acts. It needs abilities, skills. Witnessing a car accident, is no art, but randim chance. The pattern of the chewing gum you step onto and that spreads on the floor, is no art. Having a chimp hammering playfully on a typewriter, creates no prose and creates no art, no matter how you turn it. Intentionally writing words on a typewriter, if done willfully and skillfully, may result in having created a piece of art.

Arts can not be done by just everybody. Skill and craftsmanship is involved. The random ways of chance and fate, are not arts.

The only art in this is getting nonsense sold for 62 million. And that is the less an effort and art the more stupid the buyer is.

3catcircus · 03-26-21, 09:06 PM

"A foole and his money..."

03-23-21, 03:47 PM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,496 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	A "painting" worth 62 million? I'm not sorry to say: all I see is just smearing. A real painter's palette may look like this after he mixed some oil or acryl colour on it. Or the floor of the atelier after the shelf with the open paint cans dropped and spilled them all over the place. https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-56495039 I dont understand this world anymore. 62 millions - for smearing. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

03-23-21, 03:56 PM	#2
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 27,857 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	nuthin new here, Jackson Pollock did it decades ago, (abstract expressionism) and one this works is a key feature featured in Ben Afflect's movie, The Accountant __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe" Last edited by Aktungbby; 03-23-21 at 04:06 PM.

03-23-21, 05:31 PM	#3
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 18,951 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	"Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it." -Publilius Syrus... or Leonard Nimoy __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	"Virtual value", breathtaking new concept. Like bitcoin and all that __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

03-24-21, 05:48 AM	#6
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 18,951 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	It is also important to realize that with these types of sales and charities, that the tax laws concerning contributions can often come in to play. In the US, this type of thing is not uncommon. I would imagine that this painting will end up either in another auction or will be donated to some art museum which can also result in tax benefits __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

03-23-21, 08:21 PM	#4
stork100 Weps Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Australia Posts: 352 Downloads: 92 Uploads: 0	Check out the recent $69 million sale of this digital artwork: https://www.washingtonpost.com/enter...49a_story.html

03-26-21, 06:57 PM	#8
iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,585 Downloads: 297 Uploads: 0	I appreciate that this is for a worthy cause, but I dislike these artistic trends. I am an amateur artist. Good art has elements of craftsmanship, order, and intentional application of media. Not the relentless pursuit of shock value (for instance, in London several years ago they exhibited paintings that were smears of the artist's feces). I have a friend who is a professional artist, and he is sick of his paintings losing in contests to submissions that are literally made out of garbage. It's frustrating. At least most abstract artists don't seem to use their bodily wastes for "artwork", but at the rate things are going - what will artists resort to for shock value 20 years from now? __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/

03-26-21, 07:10 PM	#9
Eichhörnchen Starte das Auto Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Fens Posts: 15,746 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	^ I've been a professional painter for most of my life and I agree with you entirely __________________

03-26-21, 07:47 PM	#10
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,496 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	So do I! From the bottom of my heart! Art, that also refers to artistry, craftsmanship, skill. Qualities that are not owned by everbyody. Not everybody can create art, just by random acts. It needs abilities, skills. Witnessing a car accident, is no art, but randim chance. The pattern of the chewing gum you step onto and that spreads on the floor, is no art. Having a chimp hammering playfully on a typewriter, creates no prose and creates no art, no matter how you turn it. Intentionally writing words on a typewriter, if done willfully and skillfully, may result in having created a piece of art. Arts can not be done by just everybody. Skill and craftsmanship is involved. The random ways of chance and fate, are not arts. The only art in this is getting nonsense sold for 62 million. And that is the less an effort and art the more stupid the buyer is. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

03-26-21, 09:06 PM	#11
3catcircus Grey Wolf Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 952 Downloads: 247 Uploads: 0	"A foole and his money..."