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Old 10-06-21, 02:43 AM   #1
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Everyone, just trying to gauge how often certain things happen, and get perspective outside of my own experiences on patrol and in testing the mod. Of course, always love to hear about experiences in the mod but make sure to let me know when these things (below) are encountered and details are important.


1. Enemy submarines, especially submerged. During 14 testing patrols from 1942-1945 in USS Drum, I was attacked (confirmed) once by a submerged AI submarine. I had external cam off and just happened to detect him after surfacing from morning trim dive as well as his inbound torpedoes, so got lucky.

Second time was on surface and submerged, heard a submerged submarine closing for approach, likely ready to fire.
In patrols since release, I heard one approaching but never saw it and dont believe was close enough to fire.


These encounters are rare though, rare enough player could never have it happen However , if it does please let me know, when, were, if were damage or destroyed. have no idea how powerful their torpedoes are yet. Obviously they should destroy a player submarine if hit, but unsure yet.



2. Friendly fire. As mentioned in README, there is now potential for friendly fire incidents, so if an Allied PBY, B-25 ,, or Allied destroyer etc attacks let me know. Time Date location etc. These incidents are rare, but a real possibility.



3. If you detect a surfaced mine or hit a mine, any issues with mines etc. Again date, time location.etc


4.Night surface attacks, especially when make it inside the larger convoys. Date time location, note the moonlight and weather. Give me a description of the attack.



5. The historical battles...did you find Nagumos carriers at Midway? The battle off Samar , Kurita engaging Taffy 4 25 October 1944? Let me know how it unfolded from your perspective.


6. Submarine damage from depth charges. I am happy with new damage model overall but always adjusting to perfect things.
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Old 10-06-21, 09:43 AM   #2
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Old 10-06-21, 10:46 AM   #3
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So, I have one night convoy attack and one lone AK attack the same day (from my patrol report)


Occurred at 0748 29 January 1943, 21-32N, 121-43E (convoy),
and 0442 8 February 1943, 25-32N, 121-34E (lone AK)


"29 January-
Picked up “SJ” pips at 041t, 9 miles out. Tracking party figured their mean course at 250 at 9 knots, with one vessel, possibly an escort, zigging in the lead. As we closed, “SJ” revealed the escort was on the near (port) side of the convoy, and the AK’s were assembled in two rows of three. Sped to flank to attack on the convoys starboard side, getting in an attack position at 0824. At 0835, made a surfaced attack, firing two spreads of three torpedoes at the two visible AK’s, the first a possible KIGAN MARU of 7,000 tons, and the other an unidentified MARU of about 5,000 tons. Upon firing, turned to port at flank speed to evade. Two from the first salvo exploded at points of aim. And a third hit with no explosion. On impact, all MARU’s turned on their searchlights and opened fire with everything they had, causing no damage. Second salvo missed, most likely due to drastic evasive maneuvers of the target. Quickly went deep and was kept under by the escort, which dogged us for three hours, dropping around 40 depth charges. Only one was close enough to count, causing minor damage to our trim pump and jarred our after battery. Remained under until 2154 due to planes in response to the attacks. Once surfaced, changed course 068 to investigate sounds and since the convoy had assuredly outrun us.



8 February-
Acquired lone “SJ” pip at 019r at 0442. Tracking party determined she was on a turn at that time, and soon established a base course of 245 at 7 knots. Ran on four engines to perform an end-around, keeping her on our sensor, eventually gaining visual of her smoke plume at 0537. At 2,500 yards off her track, flooded our tanks to decks-awash to lower our profile and turned for a stern shot. At 0605, caught visual of her superstructure and decided it looked similar to the AKITA MARU (possibly a class of ship, not a singular build) again at 4,000 tons. Fired four stern torpedoes at slow speed, two set with contact exploders, two with influence, and quickly fled the area at full speed. Three hit at point of aim, but #3 only hit as a dud, however, the three hits were sufficient to bring her down, sinking her at 0637."


For the convoy, I originally set up facing north, the convoy heading WSW with a DE in the lead, the MARUs in two rows of 3. DE was favoring the south side, so I crossed their T and took up a position looking south. Turned SSE so I was presenting a low profile and at firing time, I was basically in front of the northern column. Fired first spread at 2400 yd, second at 2200 yd. By the time I'd turned tail, I saw the northern column leader off my stb beam only about 500 yds away. Only after the impacts hit was anyone aware of my presence, but they werent very enthused about it.


DC's were close, but only caused 1% hull damage. Trim pump was damaged, same with aft batteries, but were repaired relatively quickly. Lots of pinging, keeping me under and changing depth.



For the lone AK, pretty normal experience, got 'em on SJ, set up for attack, but this time I set myself low in the water, as one time (not this patrol, just practice) was spotted on an end-around pitch black night by a ZINBU MARU (just west of Taipei 8 feb 43, 0200) that fired on me without notice, searchlights, or sound! (actually, having problems with all gun/impact sounds - different issue im sure). Fired at the AKITA MARU from stern at 3400 yd.

Thusfar, very few issues. Night attacks are a game changer.
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Old 10-06-21, 11:01 AM   #4
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So, I have one night convoy attack and one lone AK attack the same day (from my patrol report)


Occurred at 0748 29 January 1943, 21-32N, 121-43E (convoy),
and 0442 8 February 1943, 25-32N, 121-34E (lone AK)


"29 January-
Picked up “SJ” pips at 041t, 9 miles out. Tracking party figured their mean course at 250 at 9 knots, with one vessel, possibly an escort, zigging in the lead. As we closed, “SJ” revealed the escort was on the near (port) side of the convoy, and the AK’s were assembled in two rows of three. Sped to flank to attack on the convoys starboard side, getting in an attack position at 0824. At 0835, made a surfaced attack, firing two spreads of three torpedoes at the two visible AK’s, the first a possible KIGAN MARU of 7,000 tons, and the other an unidentified MARU of about 5,000 tons. Upon firing, turned to port at flank speed to evade. Two from the first salvo exploded at points of aim. And a third hit with no explosion. On impact, all MARU’s turned on their searchlights and opened fire with everything they had, causing no damage. Second salvo missed, most likely due to drastic evasive maneuvers of the target. Quickly went deep and was kept under by the escort, which dogged us for three hours, dropping around 40 depth charges. Only one was close enough to count, causing minor damage to our trim pump and jarred our after battery. Remained under until 2154 due to planes in response to the attacks. Once surfaced, changed course 068 to investigate sounds and since the convoy had assuredly outrun us.



8 February-
Acquired lone “SJ” pip at 019r at 0442. Tracking party determined she was on a turn at that time, and soon established a base course of 245 at 7 knots. Ran on four engines to perform an end-around, keeping her on our sensor, eventually gaining visual of her smoke plume at 0537. At 2,500 yards off her track, flooded our tanks to decks-awash to lower our profile and turned for a stern shot. At 0605, caught visual of her superstructure and decided it looked similar to the AKITA MARU (possibly a class of ship, not a singular build) again at 4,000 tons. Fired four stern torpedoes at slow speed, two set with contact exploders, two with influence, and quickly fled the area at full speed. Three hit at point of aim, but #3 only hit as a dud, however, the three hits were sufficient to bring her down, sinking her at 0637."


For the convoy, I originally set up facing north, the convoy heading WSW with a DE in the lead, the MARUs in two rows of 3. DE was favoring the south side, so I crossed their T and took up a position looking south. Turned SSE so I was presenting a low profile and at firing time, I was basically in front of the northern column. Fired first spread at 2400 yd, second at 2200 yd. By the time I'd turned tail, I saw the northern column leader off my stb beam only about 500 yds away. Only after the impacts hit was anyone aware of my presence, but they werent very enthused about it.


DC's were close, but only caused 1% hull damage. Trim pump was damaged, same with aft batteries, but were repaired relatively quickly. Lots of pinging, keeping me under and changing depth.



For the lone AK, pretty normal experience, got 'em on SJ, set up for attack, but this time I set myself low in the water, as one time (not this patrol, just practice) was spotted on an end-around pitch black night by a ZINBU MARU (just west of Taipei 8 feb 43, 0200) that fired on me without notice, searchlights, or sound! (actually, having problems with all gun/impact sounds - different issue im sure). Fired at the AKITA MARU from stern at 3400 yd.

Thusfar, very few issues. Night attacks are a game changer.

Thanks for the feedback, enjoy the read. Look forward to reading the full report.
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