SH6 - Page 2

STEED · 10-01-10, 07:43 AM

SH6...

Can not see it happening after the...well we all know.

Legionary74 · 10-01-10, 08:35 AM

Cold War, or else im sticking with SH3

vienna · 10-01-10, 02:27 PM

I much prefer WWII as a time period: submarine warfare had really begun to make great strides and was not yet overly-automated. It is rather like the comment made by the captain in the film "Enemy Below" when he tells his IWO that sub warfare was more of a challenge in WWI; captains had to work harder to compute speed, range, etc. while in WWII the captains looked through the scope, fed the data into the TDC and the computations were done for him. I wouldn't like the more primative aspects of WWI warfare (i am no math major), but I find the almost totally automated "point and shoot" of modern Cold War methods and technology a bit off-putting.

Task Force · 10-01-10, 03:15 PM

If their was "tho there isnt" a silent hunter 6, id want it to be WW1.

ETR3(SS) · 10-01-10, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vienna

...but I find the almost totally automated "point and shoot" of modern Cold War methods and technology a bit off-putting.

Like TLAM said before and I can attest personally, it ain't as easy as you make it out to be. Try it, just once.

Ducimus · 10-01-10, 10:42 PM

The problem with cold war subs is (IMO at least) they're too sterile and detached from the environment. To see what i mean, play a type 21 Uboat in SH3, but.......Never surface, and don't check the limited battery charge realism option. So, you only need to stick the snorkel up once a day to refresh O2.

That means, no real worries about fuel. No need to crash dive, none of the stuff that is part and parcel of a diesal boat. Just cruise around submerged all the time, never seeing the light of day, nor sunrise, sunset, no night surface attacks, etc etc.

Booooorrrrriiiiinnnngg.....

TLAM Strike · 10-01-10, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus

The problem with cold war subs is (IMO at least) they're too sterile and detached from the environment. To see what i mean, play a type 21 Uboat in SH3, but.......Never surface, and don't check the limited battery charge realism option. So, you only need to stick the snorkel up once a day to refresh O2.

That means, no real worries about fuel. No need to crash dive, none of the stuff that is part and parcel of a diesal boat. Just cruise around submerged all the time, never seeing the light of day, nor sunrise, sunset, no night surface attacks, etc etc.

Booooorrrrriiiiinnnngg.....

Assuming you are driving a nuc. Smokeboats were used quite a bit in the cold war- especially in the 1950-1970s. Don't forget UK diesels participated in Operation Corporate and Operation Desert Storm. The last armed US Diesel was decommissioned 1990 (the unarmed USS Dolphin was decommissioned this year.)

For a cold war era sub there is a whole host of dangers unknown to a WWII era boat. Most definitely is the Hunter Killer Sub, second is the ASW Aircraft (True ASW aircraft not Seaplanes with Depth Charges tacked on).

Its hardly boring, there is a threat out there and you may not know it until it fires a torpedo. Aside from a plane coming out of the sun, or a 'can charging out of the fog a WWII sub generally knows when an enemy is approaching. In SH1,2 and 4 I can't think of any time the enemy has really surprised me (the only time I ever seem to die is when I attack), in SC and DW enemy forces have gotten the jump on me many times (I've died and not known the enemy was there lurking in my baffles... I still remember that one ML).

Torvald Von Mansee · 11-23-10, 02:34 PM

really really really really want the Imperial Japanese Navy represented for SH6.

Think about it!! Midget subs!! Kaiten!!! The Long Lance torpedeo!! Enough range to go ANYWHERE!!

Also, it would be cool if it were possible to play it in tandem w/a flight sim where you could fly the floatplane launched from the various subs which could carry same.

Takeda Shingen · 11-23-10, 04:09 PM

There isn't going to be an SH6.

CCIP · 11-23-10, 05:59 PM

I can see an SH6. Just not in the next uh... 8-10 years, probably not until someone else buys the license from Ubi. Given how Ubi's been going, I wouldn't be surprised if the company itself ceased to exist by then and their former brands (including SH) wouldn't theoretically be up for grabs.

And well, there's plenty of ways in which modern combat would be interesting, but I don't think it has place in the SH ethos. The worst thing to do would be to take the preceding SH's game flow and simply project it into the modern era - i.e. you still do the same sorts of things, just faster and with a few extra gadgets. Getting bombed by jet fighters? Chasing merchant convoys? Tonnage war? Gimme a break! That'd be a real disservice to what the modern submarine's actual jobs are.

Kaye T. Bai · 11-26-10, 07:55 AM

Bring on the Seawolves and the Virginias!

View Poll Results: wich time you would like sh6
WW1 1914-1918	7	18.42%
WW2 1939-1945	18	47.37%
Cold war around 1950	8	21.05%
Modern Warfare (today) 2000-20....	5	13.16%
Voters: 38. You may not vote on this poll

10-01-10, 07:43 AM	#16
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	SH6... Can not see it happening after the...well we all know. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

10-01-10, 03:15 PM	#19
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	If their was "tho there isnt" a silent hunter 6, id want it to be WW1. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

11-23-10, 02:34 PM	#23
Torvald Von Mansee Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: CA4528 Posts: 1,673 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I really really really really really... really really really really want the Imperial Japanese Navy represented for SH6. Think about it!! Midget subs!! Kaiten!!! The Long Lance torpedeo!! Enough range to go ANYWHERE!! Also, it would be cool if it were possible to play it in tandem w/a flight sim where you could fly the floatplane launched from the various subs which could carry same. __________________ "You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you" - Leon Trotsky

11-23-10, 05:59 PM	#25
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	I can see an SH6. Just not in the next uh... 8-10 years, probably not until someone else buys the license from Ubi. Given how Ubi's been going, I wouldn't be surprised if the company itself ceased to exist by then and their former brands (including SH) wouldn't theoretically be up for grabs. And well, there's plenty of ways in which modern combat would be interesting, but I don't think it has place in the SH ethos. The worst thing to do would be to take the preceding SH's game flow and simply project it into the modern era - i.e. you still do the same sorts of things, just faster and with a few extra gadgets. Getting bombed by jet fighters? Chasing merchant convoys? Tonnage war? Gimme a break! That'd be a real disservice to what the modern submarine's actual jobs are. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

10-01-10, 08:35 AM	#17
Legionary74 Ensign Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: New Jersey Posts: 220 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Cold War, or else im sticking with SH3

10-01-10, 02:27 PM	#18
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,507 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I much prefer WWII as a time period: submarine warfare had really begun to make great strides and was not yet overly-automated. It is rather like the comment made by the captain in the film "Enemy Below" when he tells his IWO that sub warfare was more of a challenge in WWI; captains had to work harder to compute speed, range, etc. while in WWII the captains looked through the scope, fed the data into the TDC and the computations were done for him. I wouldn't like the more primative aspects of WWI warfare (i am no math major), but I find the almost totally automated "point and shoot" of modern Cold War methods and technology a bit off-putting.

10-01-10, 10:42 PM	#21
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	The problem with cold war subs is (IMO at least) they're too sterile and detached from the environment. To see what i mean, play a type 21 Uboat in SH3, but.......Never surface, and don't check the limited battery charge realism option. So, you only need to stick the snorkel up once a day to refresh O2. That means, no real worries about fuel. No need to crash dive, none of the stuff that is part and parcel of a diesal boat. Just cruise around submerged all the time, never seeing the light of day, nor sunrise, sunset, no night surface attacks, etc etc. Booooorrrrriiiiinnnngg.....

11-23-10, 04:09 PM	#24
Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	There isn't going to be an SH6.

11-26-10, 07:55 AM	#26
Kaye T. Bai Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Western Hemisphere, Earth, Milky Way Galaxy, Local Group, Virgo Supercluster Posts: 584 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Bring on the Seawolves and the Virginias!