Wuhan virus 2020

[Skybird]

NYT gets quoted with having reported (behind paywall) that a Pfizer study found that vaccines by Biontech-Pfizer and Moderna may offer protection "for years".

However, older adults, people with weak immune systems, and those taking drugs that suppress immunity may need booster vaccinations. People who survived Covid-19 and were later vaccinated may not need it at all, the study found.

[Skybird]

FOCUS writes:


A development is currently emerging in Great Britain which, with a delay of a few months, will probably also show itself in Germany. An increasing proportion of those who died of Covid-19 had been vaccinated twice. What at first glance seems to indicate a problem with the vaccinations is probably a statistical effect that is primarily related to two well-known factors: the incomplete protection provided by the vaccinations on the one hand and the increasing vaccination rates on the other. -

It was already clear after the clinical studies that the vaccinations did not fully protect against infection. The Biontech vaccine Comirnaty, for example, reduced the number of infections by 95 percent compared to the control group. That's good, but not perfect. At the same time, the vaccination completely prevented serious disease and deaths. In fact, this is only partially true, because the studies only incompletely recorded the most vulnerable groups. -

People with a weakened immune system such as cancer patients or organ transplants, like the elderly, generally have an increased risk of developing Covid-19 and dying. And there are many indications that the vaccinations in these groups do not protect against serious illness and death as completely as the figures in the studies on healthy people had shown. Fully vaccinated persons also die in the risk groups, albeit less than without vaccination. The delta variant may also increase this proportion. -
In contrast, the likelihood that young people with a healthy immune system will die from a Sars-CoV-2 infection is very low anyway. However, the risk rises dramatically in the risk groups, which are not for nothing called risk groups: The mortality in relation to all infections - if you take the figures from this review - in 25-year-olds in the range of a fraction of a per mille, in 85-year-olds it is 15 Percent. -

The exact numbers are controversial, the basic facts are not: the risk increases roughly exponentially with age. As a result, vaccination campaigns in many countries first focused on those most vulnerable groups. -

Because of the huge differences in mortality between young, healthy people and the risk groups, the imperfect protection provided by vaccinations has a major impact. If vaccination were to reduce mortality in 85-year-olds by a hypothetical 95 percent, instead of 100 percent as in the studies, they still have a more than 50-fold higher risk of death than unvaccinated 25-year-olds with the above figures. At the same time, the vaccination also gives them less protection from infection than one would expect based on the study data on healthy people. -

This leads to the seemingly paradoxical result: the further the vaccination campaign advances, the higher the potential percentage of those who have been completely vaccinated in the corona deaths. Most of the people at increased risk are already vaccinated, but will become infected to a certain extent and some will also die from it. -

The remaining unvaccinated people, on the other hand, are predominantly relatively young with a correspondingly low risk of death. Even if the unvaccinated make up the majority of the infected, their contribution to the deaths remains comparatively limited - and it continues to decrease the more these population groups are also vaccinated. -

This only appears paradoxical because it is easy to confuse two very different things. On the one hand, the probability that a person who died of Covid-19 is double vaccinated, on the other hand, the reverse is the case that a person who has been vaccinated twice dies of Covid-19. Both sound similar, but are independent of each other. -

Especially when the vaccinations provide very good protection in all age groups - as there are currently many indications - the proportion of those who have been vaccinated among those who have died can increase significantly. However, the key indicator of the protection that vaccinations offer is whether fewer people get sick and die among those vaccinated.

[Moonlight]

DISASTER ZONE Crumbling sewers, no PPE, & filthy cages – Inside ‘chaotic & crowded’ Wuhan labs which may have unleashed Covid
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/152322...aotic-crowded/

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by August

Notice that the nude sunbathers still managed to keep their cell phones so they could call for help.

Big scary deer comes at you while you're illegally tanning your pale covid lockdown patootie and what do you go for? Your skivvies or your cell phone? No time to think, choose now! Here it comes!

A prime example being:

[Jimbuna]

[Jimbuna]

[Jimbuna]

German travellers returning from Portugal are now having to quarantine for 14 days because of the spread of Covid in recent weeks. A number of holidaymakers booked early flights home to avoid the new restriction, which also applies to travellers from Russia. Germany has recorded another 404 cases in the past 24 hours and the seven-day incidence has fallen to 5.4 cases per 100,000 people.

The Delta variant which originated in India is now the most prevalent variant in Portugal and authorities there have now introduced a 14-day quarantine for UK travellers who don't have proof of two vaccinations.

A big outbreak sourced to Spanish end-of-year school trips to Majorca has now led to more than 1,000 Covid cases. Dozens of young people are now being kept in isolation under police guard at the Hotel Palma Bellver which has been dubbed the “Covid hotel”. Spain’s regions have begun speeding up vaccination of people in their 30s in a bid to halt the spread of the Delta variant, and some of the Balearic islands including Ibiza have begun immunising 16-29 year-olds.

As new cases across Russia climb above 21,000 a day, Moscow and St Petersburg recorded their highest Covid deaths and hospital admissions in 24 hours yesterday. Moscow saw 124 deaths and almost 17,000 hospital admissions while St Petersburg saw 110 more deaths.

A French study on 90 schoolchildren aged seven to nine has found that lockdown had a significant decline on their health and cognitive abilities. Their body mass index increased and physical fitness fell while cognitive abilities dropped by as much as 40%.

[Skybird]

The vaccination campaign in Germany started slow, it was a dead start, almost. Meanwhile, it has won in pace significantly, and things have dramatically improved. Since two days, I learned from my doc, even in my federal state I could have gotten a date now. Last week I still was unable to sign in at the state's centres. Here is now the talk of to shutting down the centre in my hometown end of August or early September, and already in July reduce the number of opening days(the past 5 months it was operating all seven days a week, though exclusively with prioritizing)

Der Tagesspiegel writes:

Effectiveness of the vaccines against Delta at a glance: -

Astrazeneca: 60 percent effectiveness with full immunization, less to no effectiveness with just one vaccination -

Biontech / Pfizer: Two weeks after the second dose up to 88 percent effective against severe courses after a delta infection, with only one vaccination the protection is significantly lower -

Moderna: According to the first study results, an effectiveness of 88 percent can be assumed after the second vaccination -

Johnson & Johnson: effectiveness of about 65 percent against the original coronavirus, against Delta less, studies are ongoing -

The key, however, lies in the completeness of the immunization: Anyone who has only received a single dose of Astrazeneca, Biontech or Moderna carries a higher risk of becoming infected with the Delta variant and becoming ill. -

Against this background, there are considerations to shorten the interval between the first and second vaccination. Just a few months ago this period was exhausted as much as possible in order to be able to vaccinate many people with the vaccine doses that were still relatively few at the time.


Der Spiegel writes:

The vaccination campaign got off to a slow start in Germany. Again and again there were allegations to the Federal Ministry of Health: They had not ordered enough vaccine. The vaccination campaign is going far too slowly. The delivery forecasts could not be met and the vaccination infrastructure was not well thought out, it was often said. -

The USA, Israel and Great Britain were always used as positive examples, where the number of first vaccinations in the first few months of the year was far higher than that in Germany. But now the Federal Republic is catching up. On Wednesday, the percentage of first vaccinations based on the total population in Germany was for the first time higher than that of Americans. -

In Germany, 54.08 percent of people have now been vaccinated against the coronavirus at least once. -

In the US it is 53.80 percent. -

The numbers are only partially comparable. In absolute numbers, the USA has vaccinated many more people than Germany, because around 328 million people live there - in Germany only around 83 million. Nevertheless, the percentage of people vaccinated in the total population is important for achieving so-called herd immunity, i.e. the percentage of people fully vaccinated that is needed to stop the pandemic. Experts estimate it at around 70 to 80 percent. -

Depending on the vaccine, two vaccinations are required for complete protection against the coronavirus. Even against the more aggressive Delta variant, the vaccines only help after the second vaccination dose. Only the vector vaccine from Johnson & Johnson is already effective after a single administration. -

In order to achieve herd immunity, the number of completely vaccinated people is relevant. Since the USA have largely resorted to the vaccines of the US corporation Johnson & Johnson, Around 47 percent of Americans are already considered fully vaccinated. -

In Germany it is only 36 percent. -

In six to twelve weeks at the latest, the second vaccinations are due in Germany, then the quota of fully vaccinated people should be significantly higher than in the USA, where the willingness to vaccinate is already clearly leveling off.
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I'm in for my second shot August 3rd, and two weeks later should have reached full immunization effect. Then I can start slaying Delta left and right of my way!

[moose1am]

Originally Posted by 3catcircus

But follow all that sciency-science that "experts" have been pushing when they "oh, no, have no conflict of interest" in pushing things that fundamentally were political rather than based on actual scientific method.

Who knew that an immune system would become less capable of responding as a result of lockdowns?!?! Other than *anyone* with a solid understanding of the fact that stress and loneliness impacts the Immune system. But hey, keep on listening to Fauxi and Daszak... No conflict of interest from them, nosirree...

I'd rather listen and heed what Dr. Anthony Fauci says that what that Dr. Atlas said. I prefer to listen to an infectious disease expert has to say that some eye doctor.


How many Americans died of stress in 2020 as compared to the 600,000 Americans who died from SARS CoV2 virus? There is no comparison. So stop with the stress bs. The problem is the virus and the fact that some people who actually feared the virus pretended that they didn't for political reasons.
And that is just for one years time. More Americans died of Covid in one year that all those that died in WWI, WWII, Korea and the Vietnam war.

[Jimbuna]

[Jimbuna]

The Balearic Islands are among the destinations added to the UK's travel green list today - but some places on the list have their own rules for arrivals.

The government hopes to lift school restrictions and bubbles as part of step 4 of exiting lockdown on 19 July, the education secretary says.

Gavin Williamson says he wants restrictions for children in England to end alongside wider restrictions in society.

The PM says the "best response" to the grief suffered by families is to "get on with a new health secretary" and continue the vaccine rollout.

He also says he hopes the vaccination programme will enable people to start flying abroad again.

New research finds life expectancy in the North West declined more than the rest of England during 2020

The study says Greater Manchester's Covid death rate has been 25% higher than elsewhere in England during the pandemic.

As England head for the quarter finals of Euro 2020, nearly 2,000 Covid cases in Scotland are linked to people watching matches.

Half of Australia is now in lockdown amid a surge in Delta virus variant cases.

North Korean state media reports that Kim Jong-un has berated officials over lapses amid a "great crisis" related to Covid.

[Jimbuna]

Latest around Europe

France takes its fourth big step in lifting major Covid restrictions this morning, allowing full access to cafes, restaurants, theme parks and cinemas - with big gatherings at concerts and festivals. Any big event with more than 1,000 people requires a Covid pass that shows proof vaccination or recent test. However, the spread of the Delta variant has caused concerns, so masks still have to be worn when walking around restaurants or attending a festival - and standing at bars is not yet allowed.

Russia recorded its highest 24-hour Covid death toll yesterday with 652 fatalities. Health officials say 151,000 people are being treated in hospital and the Kremlin says the target of vaccinating 60% of Russians by autumn will not be met. Health chief Anna Popova says a more dangerous variant called Delta Plus has been detected in Russia, and she has called for mass events to be banned.

Ireland’s hospitality industry will meet ministers today after the government decided to postpone the resumption of indoor dining and drinking. Taoiseach (prime minister) Micheál Martin said he was advised by health officials in stark terms not to reopen as planned next Monday because of the spread of the Delta variant.

Greenland has had 50 Covid cases in total and currently has just one person being treated in hospital. So the government has decided that restrictions, especially on foreign travel, will be lifted tomorrow. The capital Nuuk had a three-day lockdown at the end of last month.

The head of Austria’s vaccine rollout has warned that compulsory wearing of masks shouldn’t yet come to an end. Katharina Reich supports a widespread lifting on Covid restrictions tomorrow but says masks should still be worn in shops and on public transport.

More than half of Germans have been vaccinated at least once and over a third have had both jabs, according to the RKI health institute. Infection numbers have fallen in Germany to around 800 a day.

[Rockstar]

Latest from the United States

President Joe Biden plans a 1,000 person Independence Day celebration on the White House lawn with essential workers and military families, and Washington's National Mall will be open to spectators to watch an evening fireworks display over the Washington Monument.

Seems major concerns over the dreaded Delta variant is just in states with low vaccine rates.

I’m back to work without a mask as is everyone else I know. My thoughts about the 4th variant of concern a.k.a. Delta is the same as the already long forgotten first three.

[Skybird]

JAMA: Covid-19-related death numbers for Italy, USA probably underestimated. And significantly so.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2767980

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...tm_term=072020

[August]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Latest from the United States

President Joe Biden plans a 1,000 person Independence Day celebration on the White House lawn with essential workers and military families, and Washington's National Mall will be open to spectators to watch an evening fireworks display over the Washington Monument.

Seems major concerns over the dreaded Delta variant is just in states with low vaccine rates.

I’m back to work without a mask as is everyone else I know. My thoughts about the 4th variant of concern a.k.a. Delta is the same as the already long forgotten first three.

People wearing masks have already become a rarity in Democrat controlled Taxachusetts.