Will Spotify Dump Rogan? - Page 2

mapuc · 01-31-22, 05:16 PM

A thought

His show:
How many in percentage has change their standpoint when it comes to Corona and how many has changed from deciding to get the vaccine to not getting it ?

Let me give you an example which has nothing to do with Corona.

A couples of year back it was decided that our busses should be free to use-They hoped that people who drove to work would take the buss instead.

A year after they could conclude that...The number of passangers in the morning and afternoon was still the same-no different. Those who drove to work still did it.

So lets get back to discuss Rogan and Corona.
With this free buss in mind, I think that those who reject the vaccine or think Corona is a lie a.s.o, will be the same in numbers, no changes here even if Rogan show was shut down-

People who taken the vaccine or planning on taking it and know Corona is real will not change their mind not even after having listen to this Rogan show.

(Hope you understand what I wrote-It's not grammar correct)

Markus

u crank · 01-31-22, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Arlo

Some people's 'opinions' get other people dead but they don't care. That's a much worse flavor of childish. Responsibility. Some people can't do it.

Correct me if I wrong but I am pretty sure that in a free society like America it is the individual who is responsible for their own health and well being. The very idea that someone's opinion on any subject can change that is ludicrous.

Let's face it we know what this is about. And it is not about medical opinions right or wrong. It's about politics and the fact that the Left can't control a guy like Rogan. It keeps them awake at night.

u crank · 01-31-22, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

He just says he does not want to support a company that does deals with Rogan, so he's out of Spotify, that's it.

Well that is not quite the story. Young demanded that Spotify make a choice between him and Rogan. And that is why I say that it is very illiberal of Young to take that opinion. Why can't they both exist on the same platform. That is the very essence of free speech. I'm very disappointed and never thought he would do such a thing.

Buddahaid · 01-31-22, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by u crank

Well that is not quite the story. Young demanded that Spotify make a choice between him and Rogan. And that is why I say that it is very illiberal of Young to take that opinion. Why can't they both exist on the same platform. That is the very essence of free speech. I'm very disappointed and never thought he would do such a thing.

Neil Young is exercising his free speech right no matter how anyone else feels about it. He said choose me, or him.

u crank · 01-31-22, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Neil Young is exercising his free speech right no matter how anyone else feels about it. He said choose me, or him.

That is one way of spinning it. Another spin is that he attempted to use a corporation to limit the free speech of someone else. And obviously Spotify wasn't going to do that. Good for them.

Buddahaid · 01-31-22, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by u crank

That is one way of spinning it. Another spin is that he attempted to use a corporation to limit the free speech of someone else. And obviously Spotify wasn't going to do that. Good for them.

I agree. It was his choice, his free speech, and his consequences.

em2nought · 01-31-22, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

^ Ok so [I]"the Holocaust was a lie

Is that you Whoopi?

Rockstar · 01-31-22, 06:59 PM

I liken it too getting ready for debate club. Just before anything is said, make an accusation and demand the audience choose between you or your opponent. Afterwards everyone gauges their next career move based on how many likes they get from the audience who bothered to hear the actual conversation

Let freedom ring!

Buddahaid · 01-31-22, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

I liken it too getting ready for debate club. Then before anything is said make an accusation and demand the audience choose between you or your opponent. Afterwards everyone gauges their next career move based on how many likes you get who bothered to hear the actual conversation

Let freedom ring!

Ah, but isn't that sort of what Trump did even before the election results were in?

Rockstar · 01-31-22, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Ah, but isn't that sort of what Trump did even before the election results were in?

I don’t know, was it?

mapuc · 01-31-22, 07:19 PM

I fear they will succumb to the pressure and close his show.

NO I did not until now know that he had this show on Spotify AND I'm not interested in listerning to it either.

Markus

Buddahaid · 01-31-22, 07:41 PM

I think the information age has reached those awkward teenage years with social problems it can't ignore any longer and is contemplating running away......

Sean C · 01-31-22, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

As a person who love free speech I do not like when some are restricted in what they are allowed to say.

Let them speak freely - Let it be up to the listerne to believe or reject what has been said to the audience.

Markus

I agree 100%. I was reading an article earlier which bemoaned Spotify's decision, saying something to the effect of potential damage caused by misinformation. I get that ... really, I do. But when faced with the alternative: potentially setting a precedent which could damage our right to free speech, I think Spotify's choice was the correct one.

Having written that, I also feel that a privately owned company should be allowed to make its own choices without outside interference when it comes to how they run their business. (Illegal activity excluded, of course.) Let's be real: we're talking about a music service, not global political policy.

It saddens me to see here in these forums the now common practice of taking everything to extremes. I mean ... comparing someone's skepticism of the 'official' narrative concerning this virus to holocaust deniers? REALLY?! Apparently Godwin's Law must be a fact.

OTOH, I am heartened to see an equal amount of posts from a different point of view. I especially like the comments from u crank and Buddahaid concerning coexistence and Neil's own right to free speech.

Cheers, friends!

Arlo · 01-31-22, 09:54 PM

With all the caterwauling about free speech from some, I thought I'd add:

Buddahaid · 01-31-22, 10:07 PM

The rise of adolescent banned book clubs proving the banning simply highlights interest in a free society.

01-31-22, 05:16 PM	#16
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,906 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	A thought His show: How many in percentage has change their standpoint when it comes to Corona and how many has changed from deciding to get the vaccine to not getting it ? Let me give you an example which has nothing to do with Corona. A couples of year back it was decided that our busses should be free to use-They hoped that people who drove to work would take the buss instead. A year after they could conclude that...The number of passangers in the morning and afternoon was still the same-no different. Those who drove to work still did it. So lets get back to discuss Rogan and Corona. With this free buss in mind, I think that those who reject the vaccine or think Corona is a lie a.s.o, will be the same in numbers, no changes here even if Rogan show was shut down- People who taken the vaccine or planning on taking it and know Corona is real will not change their mind not even after having listen to this Rogan show. (Hope you understand what I wrote-It's not grammar correct) Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

01-31-22, 06:59 PM	#23
Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 11,847 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I liken it too getting ready for debate club. Just before anything is said, make an accusation and demand the audience choose between you or your opponent. Afterwards everyone gauges their next career move based on how many likes they get from the audience who bothered to hear the actual conversation Let freedom ring! __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time.

01-31-22, 07:19 PM	#26
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,906 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	I fear they will succumb to the pressure and close his show. NO I did not until now know that he had this show on Spotify AND I'm not interested in listerning to it either. Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

01-31-22, 07:41 PM	#27
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,561 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	I think the information age has reached those awkward teenage years with social problems it can't ignore any longer and is contemplating running away...... __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie Last edited by Buddahaid; 01-31-22 at 08:41 PM.

01-31-22, 09:54 PM	#29
Arlo The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,304 Downloads: 214 Uploads: 0	With all the caterwauling about free speech from some, I thought I'd add: __________________ -Arlo

01-31-22, 10:07 PM	#30
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,561 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	The rise of adolescent banned book clubs proving the banning simply highlights interest in a free society. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie