Here we go again-Ukraine once again pt2

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Not much use without an account

Sorry, freely available from here. I have no account, and dont get asked, its not interlinked, and The Econmist is also certainly no german website.

[tonschk]

ANTI-RUSSIAN SANCTIONS UNFORTUNATELY ARE ONLY WORKING AGAINST EUROPEAN UNION

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Sorry, freely available from here. I have no account, and dont get asked, its not interlinked, and The Econmist is also certainly no german website.

Not a problem Mark alles is goed.

[Jimbuna]

[tonschk]

STRUGGLING DICTATOR ZELENSKY NOW RESORT TO SENDING THE SICK AND DISABLED UKRAINIANS AS CANNON FODDER TO WAR BECAUSE HIS LACK OF MANPOWER and TYPICAL OF A REAL AUTHORITARIAN AGONIZING NAZI REGIME

Defense ministry amends rules exempting Ukrainians from mobilization on health grounds

Ukraine's defense ministry has approved an amended list of medical conditions which exempt Ukrainians from military service, the Ukrainian Military Pages reported on Sept. 3.

According to the report, amendments to the law were made on Aug. 18 and entered into force on Aug. 25.

From now on, people with clinically cured tuberculosis, viral hepatitis, slowly progressing blood diseases, thyroid gland diseases with minor functional disorders, and those who are HIV-positive but without symptoms, are considered still fit for military service.

https://kyivindependent.com/ukraines...-mobilization/



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[u crank]

I have been catching up on this thread and I have a question if anyone can help. Where can you find out what is actually happening on the ground in Ukraine? It seems to me that most of what is posted here is propaganda from one side or the other. Are there any non biased sites or sources available?

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by u crank

I have been catching up on this thread and I have a question if anyone can help. Where can you find out what is actually happening on the ground in Ukraine? It seems to me that most of what is posted here is propaganda from one side or the other. Are there any non biased sites or sources available?

My best advice is...go there by yourself then you can see what's happening on the ground.

Which of course is a bad advice-So take a standpoint and believe what you feel is correct.

As mentioned many times before none of us know exactly what's happening on the battlefield. What we decide to be true in our belief depends on where we stand.

I myself support Ukraine, so I believe things coming from their side.

Markus

[u crank]

Originally Posted by mapuc

I myself support Ukraine, so I believe things coming from their side.

I think that is a mistake Markus. Not your support for Ukraine but your belief that they are being honest and realistic about what is happening. I don't trust the propaganda that is coming from either side and was hoping perhaps for a nonbiased military assessment of what is happening.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by u crank

I think that is a mistake Markus. Not your support for Ukraine but your belief that they are being honest and realistic about what is happening. I don't trust the propaganda that is coming from either side and was hoping perhaps for a nonbiased military assessment of what is happening.

I know one homepage which I see as nonbiased and that is
https://www.understandingwar.org/

Furthermore I do know that it's mostly propaganda coming from the Ukrainian side.

Markus

[Exocet25fr]

NATO member contradicts Ukraine drone claim!

The Romanian Defense Ministry says no Russian UAVs have crashed on its territory, contrary to official statements by Kiev!

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by u crank

I have been catching up on this thread and I have a question if anyone can help. Where can you find out what is actually happening on the ground in Ukraine? It seems to me that most of what is posted here is propaganda from one side or the other. Are there any non biased sites or sources available?

Ignore the videos posted here might be a good start.
Diversify news sources and also sources of analysis of the news.
You can only improve your informational situation, but you can never be sure. Manipulation is omnipresent.
A German speaking newspaper I trust more than others, is Neue Zürcher Zeitung. It's Swiss, obviously, but that alone does not do the trick. It's the reason and mindfulness of their writers.

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Ignore the videos posted here might be a good start.
Diversify news sources and also sources of analysis of the news.
You can only improve your informational situation, but you can never be sure. Manipulation is omnipresent.

Yea I am pretty much doing all that now. Western media and politicians obviously have a vested interest in spreading a less than honest assessment of the facts on the ground.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by u crank

Yea I am pretty much doing all that now. Western media and politicians obviously have a vested interest in spreading a less than honest assessment of the facts on the ground.

I don't doubt either side are to be totally believed but I do know beyond a shadow of a doubt who started the war and who the aggressor is but other than that I trust my own instincts Marcel.

Judgements as made by the ICC and the arrest warrant only add to my beliefs.

[Skybird]

Numbers given by Ukraine and Russia, I believe the numbers of both sides are manipulated but the effect in case of the Russians seem to be much bigger and sees much less confirmation by other sources than the ukrainian nuumbers which are apparently a bit mor realistic and tend to be closer to other sources' estimations. But really trustworthy none of them are, imo.



The internet is a battlefield. Instead of grenades it rains clips and claims and pictures.

[Jimbuna]