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Old 05-29-23, 07:35 PM   #1
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I say that since years, but some said it already before me.

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Peace or war, CO2 reduction or not, eating insects or alga, driving and heating electrical - if we do not bring down population numbers, all that will help us nothing. And then nature will have her way and take care of those high population numbers in her own way.
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Old 05-29-23, 08:23 PM   #2
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Relax, some mega-rich tycoon or fanatical dictator will one day bombard the planet with a deadly virus or some other doomsday scenario.

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Old 05-29-23, 08:46 PM   #3
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We're all gonna die a horrible death!!
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Anyone who thinks the population should be reduced could easily lead by example. At least they'd be doing something about it instead of just whining.

But seriously: how would we actually reduce the population size? Sterilization? And would those advocating for population reduction be the first in line? I highly doubt it. For that matter, would anyone volunteer?

If no one did volunteer, who would be the arbiter of who gets to reproduce and who doesn't ... and upon what authority would they act? Historically speaking, the population reduction crowd doesn't have a very good track record when it comes to active members.

It's a slippery slope - unless you don't mind being thought of as another Francis Galton ... or worse. Like many other so-called "solutions", population reduction might seem like a good idea ... until you actually think about it.
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Most models predict a population peak around 2050 to 2070, followed by a slow but steady decline.

This decline will happen even without major death events (wars, large natural disasters and so on), as most nations no longer have a classic population pyramid. There are many nations around the woprld in which the number of old people outnumbers the number of young people, often by quite a margin. Also, many nations have a fertility rate below 2 (children per woman), which by itself means a net decline in the long run.
The only exceptions are nations in Saharan and especially Subsaharan Africa and a few nations in Asia.

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Old 05-30-23, 03:47 AM   #6
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1. We shouldnt have grown this far in the first.

2. Projections of growth show a widening probability tunnel with population by the end of the century being between 7.5 and 14 or 15 billion.

3. Nature will settle this. 't wont get nice.
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Is there a Film about this kind of scenario.

A compulsory contraceptive pill that a man or woman takes at 5 year old and lasts for a generation, the unknown side effect is discovered later, infertility. The more population in a country, the more the number of compulsory contraceptive pills allocated to them, children would become a valuable resource that wars would be fought over them. Then again, what's the point of a war, you've already sentenced most of them to a life that's not worth living so why would they fight for your children's future.

Bloody hell, what happens if all the ingredients of that pill got into a continents water resources?, or even worse, the worlds water resource, a dystopian nightmare comes true and a self made extinction level event follows it.

Not good old boy, although all the animals would be bleeding pleased about it.
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Peace or war, CO2 reduction or not, eating insects or alga, driving and heating electrical - if we do not bring down population numbers, all that will help us nothing. And then nature will have her way and take care of those high population numbers in her own way.
I believe that’s true too. When people think of extinction events they usually think of Dinosaurs and things that happened millions & millions of years ago. But as we learn more about our planet’s history, extinction events happen more often than we think. And frankly these days we don't need a 'global killer' asteroid to collapse a society which has become so reliant on our masters and modern technology. Just several weeks ago the Sun emitted a Carrington Event level CME, thankfully it wasn't pointed in our direction. If it had been, modern technology would have been made useless in an instant sending us back to the Stone Age.

Look how most of the ancient religions report enduring a great flood which wiped out a lot of humanity. But that’s religion! However if you compare those old stories to the Younger Dryas impact hypothesis. Those ‘religious’ stories may actually give us glimpse into earth’s not too distant cataclysmic past.

Read the Old Norse inscriptions dated just 1,487 years ago when what is thought to have been major volcanic event that changed the entire face of earth.

The gods have abandoned you. The sun's rays are fainter than they used to be. Dim and barely discernible behind a misty veil that stretches across the sky in all directions, reaching far beyond the horizon. You are weak and sickly, your stomach grumbles but there is nothing eat. The pantry is empty and the crops won't grow. It should have been summer by now in this year of constant twilight, but the soil is still frozen.

Thats not just some Scandinavian Saga meant to entertain the masses, it really happened. The year is 536 A.D., and in Byzantium the chronicler Procopius writes:

It came about during this year that a most dread portent took place. For the sun gave forth its light without brightness, like the moon, during this whole year, and it seemed exceedingly like the sun in eclipse, for the beams it shed were not clear nor such as it is accustomed to shed. And from the time when this thing happened men were free neither from war nor pestilence nor any other thing leading to death. And it was the time when Justinian was in the tenth year of his reign.

Our tiny pale blue dot has cooled and warmed time and time again nothing new under the sun, earth has been there done that. And the climate crusaders response? Why enslave more of the poor third world countries because that’s where the majority of the resources for their electric cars, iPads, solar panels and appliances are located! Make them poor bastards dig, exploit them and their natural resources. Rape, pillage and poison them and the environment even further pile on even more human misery, strife and death. Just so they can drive around in electric cars and type on the internet to tell others ‘look at us’ we’re saving the planet as they travel to their summer cottages. It’s easy for the climate crusaders to continue wanting more luxury and convenience, because the haughty and self indulgent don’t have to dig.

Surely we have done something wrong, the gods have abandoned us.
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That we are too many is correct.

However the important questions remains

1. How many is too many ?
2. Who of us human has to go(being erased from mother earth)?

I think mother earth will decide who and how many has to go and how it will be done.

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^I don't think so, it'll be settled by nuclear weapons inside the next 25 years, the human race and probably 70 to 85% of the animal kingdom will go down with them, the dawn of the super insects will take over the world.
The human race will end in a whimper as those pillocks who got to a government bunker in time emerge into a living nightmare, what a fitting end.
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Old 05-30-23, 11:16 PM   #11
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I say that since years, but some said it already before me.

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Peace or war, CO2 reduction or not, eating insects or alga, driving and heating electrical - if we do not bring down population numbers, all that will help us nothing. And then nature will have her way and take care of those high population numbers in her own way.
Well Skybird you survived covid, : congratulations now after all these years you survive NATO. Washington DC ? and your own politicians ? after all the elites are in control aren't they. Damn after all the post you have made.None of these brains have learned anything. Well we will see you on the other side, There are no brains in the USA. Ideology, everyone today wonders! This is what happens when we trust the Politician.
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1. We shouldnt have grown this far in the first.

2. Projections of growth show a widening probability tunnel with population by the end of the century being between 7.5 and 14 or 15 billion.

3. Nature will settle this. 't wont get nice.
So what you're saying is you're volunteering to depopulate China and India and Latin America?

The western world is already in a declining population situation, invaded by illegals who reproduce at a higher rate who come from nations that don't give a **** about minimizing carbon footprints.

Efforts to "combat 'climate change'" will have zero net effect when China and India continue to pollute and we continue to pretend that child-slaves mining cobalt in Africa and lithium in Chile are somehow going to be good for the planet.

How would you have proposed limiting population growth when the third world pays it no mind and never has?

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With the current fertility rate in Finland, the ethnic finns will cease to exist in eight generations (about 250 years). Many countries are in same situation.
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Old 06-04-23, 06:42 AM   #14
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So what you're saying is you're volunteering to depopulate China and India and Latin America?
The fact that you put a question mark at the end of the sentence shows that you yourself do not believe your statement.

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The western world is already in a declining population situation, invaded by illegals who reproduce at a higher rate who come from nations that don't give a **** about minimizing carbon footprints.
The poluation problem is almost exclusively an African and South-East Asian one. Young people over here in Germany claiming to not wanting to have children to save the climate or the world status, are rightout stupid, they have not thought things to their end. Despite the population explosion globally we need raising birth rates in the developed countries. These growths mean little to nothing for world levels, but they mean an awsome lot for whether or not these developed states can keep economies alive and developing so that then they can help to tackle climate issues and privie material help to the underdeveloped world. Without high technology the climate issues cannot be tackled, a deindustrialization will not help us, but worsen climate problems and social probloems. And renewable energy alone will never provide the necessary base loads needed for highyl developed industrialised nations. That idyll maybe can work in small, economically relatively irrelevant places, but not in industrial heavy weights like the US, China, Great Britain or - though decreasing - Germany. ( Plus the concentration on the north sea as a giant windmill park makes us hilariously vulnerable to Russia again, by sabotage. )

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Efforts to "combat 'climate change'" will have zero net effect when China and India continue to pollute and we continue to pretend that child-slaves mining cobalt in Africa and lithium in Chile are somehow going to be good for the planet.
You underestimate us Super-Germans. We can make ever more sacrifices and compensate for all evils of the world, including CO2 emissions during volanic eruptions. Its only a question of time until the world sees our superior wisdom, then we Germans will point the morally correct direction with an imperial as well as impertinently erect index finger and then all the world will jump out of the starting blocks and rush in the direction we have pointed out to it. We know things to the better end, you know, the others know nothing.

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I proposed nothing. I simpyl stated a simple fact that most do not dare to ever discuss on TV or in politics, since it is politically most incorrect and would be a career knockout. As I said, I think nature will take care of the human problem. By starvation. Flooding. Lack of sweet water. Pandemics. Resulting in: war, war and more war.
I read that think tanks and intel agencies warn governments since years, if not two or three decades, that the world is sliding at this direction, and that we last but not least must also militarily prepare for this chaos. This century, maybe the next as well, will not go by peacefully and more civilized than the last one. i think it will get even worse than the 20th century.
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With the current fertility rate in Finland, the ethnic finns will cease to exist in eight generations (about 250 years). Many countries are in same situation.
Industrialised, developed and often Western countries. In many countries in afric aand SE Asia, fertility rate if 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 babies per woman.

Too many babies in the wrong places, too few babies in the wrong places.

But tell a tribal, fat black mama with 11babies and kids in Equatorial Africa that she should give birth to fewer brats, and the whole family will come down on you and aggressively tell you about tradition and family honor and that the bad racist whites have nothing to tell to them anymore.

If it's their family honor and cultural tradition to watch their brats starve, if in Asia people have multiplied so much that hordes and masses move into passage zones for tropical cyclones and settle where their ancestors have avoided settling for centuries because they knew that it's a dangerous living there - well, then let them, then they should just suffer what they wanted to to bring upon themselves.

But yopu know how it goes. The fault is never theirs, its always ours, us mean bad old racist white males.
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