Here we go again-Ukraine once again

[Andreas86]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Does anyone give a Sh!t anymore if Putin sees it as a NATO "attack"?
It was him who attacked because he thought the Ukraine and we were weak. Make him stop whatever the cost.

The whole of political Europe obviously.


It needs to stop now.

[Aktungbby]

https://atalayar.com/en/content/turk...-all-countries

The Turkish government announced today that it is closing the Bosphorus Strait to the passage of military vessels from all countries, although ships based in the Black Sea, such as those from Russia or Ukraine, will still be allowed to return to their ports, in application of the Montreux Convention.

"We have warned all countries, whether they border the Black Sea or not, that no warships should pass through the Bosporus and the Dardanelles," Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavusoglu told reporters after a cabinet meeting, reports NTV.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan had earlier warned of his government's readiness to implement its prerogative to close the passage between the Mediterranean and the Black Sea to prevent the war in Ukraine from "escalating".

NATO members Bulgaria and Romania border the Black Sea, as do Ukraine and Russia, which bases one of its fleets here.

Çavusoglu made clear that warships returning to their Black Sea bases will still be allowed to pass through.

The closure of the Bosporus may particularly affect Russia, which will no longer be able to send naval units from other areas to the Black Sea.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan read my post and quickly decided closing the Bosphorus over Operation Musgrove would be the "lesser of 2 weevils" https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...96&postcount=4

[Andreas86]

Boris was put on the spot in Poland:

https://www.facebook.com/678864536/v...3584755665060/

[mapuc]

It's going to be interesting to see what Putin has hidden in his sleves. What he may come up with regarding Turkeys closing the seaway one way.
And what he will do with Poland-The Ukrainian fighter pilot will fly their MIG29 from Poland to Ukraine.

Markus

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by Andreas86

Boris was put on the spot in Poland:
https://www.facebook.com/678864536/v...3584755665060/

I would like to have seen this happening publicly, but in the german Bundestag!

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by mapuc

And what he will do with Poland-The Ukrainian fighter pilot will fly their MIG29 from Poland to Ukraine.

Markus

I just red it will not happen.

[Rockstar]

SWIFT sanctions may be one of two things, the first ring of the bell tolling the death of the dollar’s reign as the worlds reserve currency. Even now more than ever I get this uneasy feeling the U.S. is being dragged in by continental Europe someplace we really don’t need to be. Or the SWIFT sanction bandwagon is just propaganda to make it look like we’re doing something more than just sending arms and logistics to Ukraine.

https://talkmarkets.com/content/econ...ld?post=346368

Especially if as the article points out that SWIFT sanctions aren’t really targeting the most key commodities Europe needs namely Russian oil, gas, metals, and wheat exports

[Skybird]

Europe does not drag you anywhere regarding SWIFT. The US took the initiative on SWIFT already some time ago - and tried to drag Europe.

[Catfish]

"Ukrainian military using civilians as shields"?

Fat chance.




Seems Putin has pi$$ed off the whole world against Russia.

[Andreas86]

Damn! Looks like a small nuke..

https://censor.net/ua/video_news/332...aschenko_video

The troops of the Russian Federation struck with the cruise missile "Caliber" on the Chuguyevsky airfield, - Gerashchenko. VIDEO

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Andreas86

Damn! Looks like a small nuke..

https://censor.net/ua/video_news/332...aschenko_video

The troops of the Russian Federation struck with the cruise missile "Caliber" on the Chuguyevsky airfield, - Gerashchenko. VIDEO

It's not a nuke-The person who was filming the explosion would not have manage to do so-His electronic would have died before the blast.
(If I remember correctly)

Markus

[Onkel Neal]

French presidential sources: Putin struck Macron 'different' at recent meeting

Yeah, not good.

Meanwhile, Kiev is about to get hammered Chechnya style

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

French presidential sources: Putin struck Macron 'different' at recent meeting

Yeah, not good.

Does not play...?!

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Does not play...?!

No problems here. Can see the video with Putin and Macron.

Markus

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by mapuc

No problems here. Can see the video with Putin and Macron.

Markus

Can watch the other videos by CNN, but not this one.

Meanwhile:

"I wish I could share more,but for now I can say it's pretty obvious to many that something is off with #Putin," Rubio wrote. "It would be a mistake to assume this Putin would react the same way he would have 5 years ago."

For some, the boldness of Putin's decision to invade -- as well as his implied threat to use nuclear weapons -- is a break with the carefully calculated and far more limited military campaigns he has launched in the past. Video footage of the Russian President seated dozens of feet away from his senior military advisers during meetings and gleefully dressing down one of his spy chiefs on television have only underscored the image of an isolated leader, acting on his own counsel alone.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/01/p...ind/index.html


I assume Neal's video hits this topic, too. And as I have written twice or three times in the past few days, I have doubts on Putin still being mentally sane. And/or that his isolation is used to manipulate him by carefully selected, filtered intel "information" to make him ordering what he then orders. Both scenarios are equally alarming.

Russia's nuclear doctrine, published in 2020, also includes a first-use nuclear policy. The Kremlin "reserves the right to use nuclear weapons," including "for the prevention of an escalation of military actions and their termination on conditions that are acceptable for the Russian Federation and/or its allies."

Wowh. That means in plain English they claim the right to attack Ukraine with nukes, if conventional warfare does not get them where they want.

Maybe its time to take into account the possibility that we simply cannot afford not to fully intervene in this war, at least with French, American, British troops - which all are under the nuclear umbrella of their nations' nuclear deterrent. If there would be consensus on article 5, then of course just every NATO nation should send troops.



Bloody hell.


Always when I think it cannot get worse - it gets worse.