Speed Restriction! Malfaunction or Error ?

Aras · 10-11-13, 01:50 PM

I launched the game with SH3 Commander. Malfunctions + Sabotage are enabled. In the middle of my second patrol (Sep 39'), after loading my save, I noticed that I am losing speed.

Surfaced
Slow Ahead = Max 1 Knots
Ahead 1/3 = Max 3-4 Knots
Ahead Standard = Max 4-5 Knots
Full Ahead = 5-6 Knots
Flank Speed = 7 Knots

Submerged
Slow Ahead = Max 1 Knots
Ahead 1/3 = Max 2 Knots
Ahead Standard = Max 3 Knots
Full Ahead = Max 4 Knots
Flank Speed = Max 4 Knots

Wind speed is 15 m/s. Battery Charging is turned off. I decided to return to port and end a well going patrol (12 k on 9 Days, 1 Ore Carrier 1 Medium Cargo), on the way back I managed to achieve 13 Knots.

I am pretty sure that when leaving the port or during the patrol I haven’t got any problem. I don't think there is a sabotage chance since I am still at 1939 and my homeport Wilhelmshaven.

Any ideas?

desirableroasted · 10-11-13, 02:09 PM

Back when I played with Sab/Mal enabled (you cannot used it in GWX), I posted this thread:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...ht=stress+test

Which might shed some light.

While 15 m/s winds will slow you down 3-4-5 knots, you should certainly be doing more than 7 m/s at flank in an undamaged boat.

What do the rest of you think?

Dread Knot · 10-11-13, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by desirableroasted

What do the rest of you think?

Inept dockyard workers?

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence.

VONHARRIS · 10-11-13, 02:20 PM

Did you save the game and reloaded?

If yes , in that case the mufunction at the beggining of your patrol will not be present after reloading the save game.
It has happened to me as well.

Aras · 10-11-13, 02:26 PM

Yes I tried to save and reload. Also I tried to exit the game and reload. Nothing changed.

One thing though I returned to my previous save before I encountered the problem at all since my last save was corrupted.

desirableroasted · 10-11-13, 04:39 PM

Von, are you sure about that? Now, it has been a few years since I ran that option, but I am sure that when I chose to push on with the defect, it was present the rest of the patrol.

Just seems, too, that it would defeat the purpose of the mod if you could just reload the game to get rid of an inconvenience.

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Originally Posted by VONHARRIS

Did you save the game and reloaded?

If yes , in that case the mufunction at the beggining of your patrol will not be present after reloading the save game.
It has happened to me as well.

Tupolev · 10-11-13, 04:40 PM

At the risk of not using the search function, what's the issue with GWX and SH3 Commander's malfunction & sabotage options?

badwolf · 10-11-13, 04:45 PM

Wave height set in Sh3Commander effects speed a lot? I've got mine set to seasonal and struggling through a storm atm, just starting a new career.

desertstriker · 10-11-13, 05:02 PM

first off as was already stated NEVER use Malfunctions & Sabotage (in the readme/ instructions somewhere) other than that i can't think of anything else causing your problem... What other mods do you have activated?

desirableroasted · 10-11-13, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tupolev

At the risk of not using the search function, what's the issue with GWX and SH3 Commander's malfunction & sabotage options?

I don't know... I used to, and so I am guessing I read it in the GWX or SH3Commander documentation.

desertstriker · 10-11-13, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by desirableroasted

I don't know... I used to, and so I am guessing I read it in the GWX or SH3Commander documentation.

its in the GWX documentation

BigWalleye · 10-11-13, 09:50 PM

desertstriker, I have searched the GWX manual and can not find any reference to the use or avoidance of the Malfunctions and Sabotage option in SH3 Commander. Could you point me to the reference? I have always played GWX with Commander and used that option, and haven't noticed any problems.

The only reference I can find to the Malfunctions and Sabotage option being incompatible with any megamod is in sh3_commander_updates_for_nygm, where the readme.txt file contains the following: "Please note that the sabotage and malfunction options in SH3 Commander 3.1 are not functioning with NYGM."

Please, where the heck is it?

desertstriker · 10-12-13, 12:15 AM

Its not where i thought it was I distinctly remember it being in the aGWX manual.. though i have searched both the GWX files readme and the SH3C documentation now. GRRRRRRRRRR i will search more tomorrow

though i may be going prematurely scenial and i remember it from when i played NYGM

Aras · 10-12-13, 12:59 AM

I am using GWX 3.0 with SH3 Commander and H.sie Hardcoded Fixes.

BigWalleye · 10-12-13, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by desertstriker

Its not where i thought it was I distinctly remember it being in the aGWX manual.. though i have searched both the GWX files readme and the SH3C documentation now. GRRRRRRRRRR i will search more tomorrow

though i may be going prematurely scenial and i remember it from when i played NYGM

Now you REALLY have me curious! I don't have, and have never seen, a GWX readme file. I downloaded an .exe and 7x .bin files. The .exe ran, used the bins, and installed everything. There is a GWX3.0 manual, and a changelog.txt in the SH3 Documentation folder, but no readme. Where/how do I find this file?

10-11-13, 01:50 PM	#1
Aras Helmsman Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Istanbul, Turkey Posts: 102 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	Speed Restriction! Malfaunction or Error ? I launched the game with SH3 Commander. Malfunctions + Sabotage are enabled. In the middle of my second patrol (Sep 39'), after loading my save, I noticed that I am losing speed. Surfaced Slow Ahead = Max 1 Knots Ahead 1/3 = Max 3-4 Knots Ahead Standard = Max 4-5 Knots Full Ahead = 5-6 Knots Flank Speed = 7 Knots Submerged Slow Ahead = Max 1 Knots Ahead 1/3 = Max 2 Knots Ahead Standard = Max 3 Knots Full Ahead = Max 4 Knots Flank Speed = Max 4 Knots Wind speed is 15 m/s. Battery Charging is turned off. I decided to return to port and end a well going patrol (12 k on 9 Days, 1 Ore Carrier 1 Medium Cargo), on the way back I managed to achieve 13 Knots. I am pretty sure that when leaving the port or during the patrol I haven’t got any problem. I don't think there is a sabotage chance since I am still at 1939 and my homeport Wilhelmshaven. Any ideas? __________________ "Though I'm past 240 meters, I'm feeling very still and I think my u-boot knows which way to go ..."

10-11-13, 02:09 PM	#2
desirableroasted Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In the mountains, now. On the edge of the sea before. Posts: 933 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	Houston, we have a problem... Back when I played with Sab/Mal enabled (you cannot used it in GWX), I posted this thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...ht=stress+test Which might shed some light. While 15 m/s winds will slow you down 3-4-5 knots, you should certainly be doing more than 7 m/s at flank in an undamaged boat. What do the rest of you think? __________________ "Well, now, that's true... the IXC is a bit of a chick magnet..but you really can't beat the VIIB for off-road fun."

10-11-13, 02:26 PM	#5
Aras Helmsman Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Istanbul, Turkey Posts: 102 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	Yes I tried to save and reload. Also I tried to exit the game and reload. Nothing changed. One thing though I returned to my previous save before I encountered the problem at all since my last save was corrupted. __________________ "Though I'm past 240 meters, I'm feeling very still and I think my u-boot knows which way to go ..."

10-12-13, 12:59 AM	#14
Aras Helmsman Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Istanbul, Turkey Posts: 102 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	I am using GWX 3.0 with SH3 Commander and H.sie Hardcoded Fixes. __________________ "Though I'm past 240 meters, I'm feeling very still and I think my u-boot knows which way to go ..."

10-11-13, 02:20 PM	#4
VONHARRIS Konteradmiral Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Greece Posts: 1,992 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	Did you save the game and reloaded? If yes , in that case the mufunction at the beggining of your patrol will not be present after reloading the save game. It has happened to me as well.

10-11-13, 04:40 PM	#7
Tupolev Hauptman Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: FL410 Posts: 174 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	At the risk of not using the search function, what's the issue with GWX and SH3 Commander's malfunction & sabotage options?

10-11-13, 04:45 PM	#8
badwolf XO Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 427 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	Wave height set in Sh3Commander effects speed a lot? I've got mine set to seasonal and struggling through a storm atm, just starting a new career.

10-11-13, 05:02 PM	#9
desertstriker Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2012 Location: mod soup bar and grill Posts: 1,756 Downloads: 998 Uploads: 0	first off as was already stated NEVER use Malfunctions & Sabotage (in the readme/ instructions somewhere) other than that i can't think of anything else causing your problem... What other mods do you have activated?

10-11-13, 09:50 PM	#12
BigWalleye Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: On the Eye-lond, mon! Posts: 1,987 Downloads: 465 Uploads: 0	desertstriker, I have searched the GWX manual and can not find any reference to the use or avoidance of the Malfunctions and Sabotage option in SH3 Commander. Could you point me to the reference? I have always played GWX with Commander and used that option, and haven't noticed any problems. The only reference I can find to the Malfunctions and Sabotage option being incompatible with any megamod is in sh3_commander_updates_for_nygm, where the readme.txt file contains the following: "Please note that the sabotage and malfunction options in SH3 Commander 3.1 are not functioning with NYGM." Please, where the heck is it?

10-12-13, 12:15 AM	#13
desertstriker Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2012 Location: mod soup bar and grill Posts: 1,756 Downloads: 998 Uploads: 0	Its not where i thought it was I distinctly remember it being in the aGWX manual.. though i have searched both the GWX files readme and the SH3C documentation now. GRRRRRRRRRR i will search more tomorrow though i may be going prematurely scenial and i remember it from when i played NYGM