[REL] Fall of the Rising Sun Ultimate, full release

[mattlach]

Hmm.


Not quite sure what I have done wrong, but I'd appreciate any help!


I did a clean install of the game (via Steam). I'v enever had th egame installed before, so I am starting from scratch here.


I copied the contents of the v1.24 7zip into it's own folder in the MODS folder. Verified the data structure to be correct.


Ran JSGME and installed the mod. It appeared to install normally.


Next I ran the large address space patch, which also appeared to work normally.


Upon executing th egame - however, I have a series of dialog boxes with a very large number of missing files, like data/menu/data/black80.tga






Just to make sure I navigated to the folder where black80.tga is supposed to be, and it was indeed not there.


Not sure what I have done wrong. I'd appreciate any suggestions!


Maybe the Steam version of the game is the wrong one to start with?


Also, the guide says to install the bb silhouettes mod last, but th elink to download that is broken, so I can't get it. Could the fact that I didn't install this mod be the problem?

[Mad Mardigan]

Originally Posted by mattlach

Hmm.

Not quite sure what I have done wrong, but I'd appreciate any help! I did a clean install of the game (via Steam). I've never had the game installed before, so I am starting from scratch here.

I copied the contents of the v1.24 7zip into it's own folder in the MODS folder. Verified the data structure to be correct.

Ran JSGME and installed the mod. It appeared to install normally.

Next I ran the large address space patch, which also appeared to work normally.


Upon executing the game - however, I have a series of dialog boxes with a very large number of missing files, like data/menu/data/black80.tga



Just to make sure I navigated to the folder where black80.tga is supposed to be, and it was indeed not there.

Not sure what I have done wrong. I'd appreciate any suggestions!


Maybe the Steam version of the game is the wrong one to start with?


Also, the guide says to install the bb silhouettes mod last, but the link to download that is broken, so I can't get it. Could the fact that I didn't install this mod be the problem?

Ahoy, mattlach...

Ok, to begin with... the devil, is in the details...

Meaning the more details, the better.

To start off with, some basic Computer set up info would be of help... followed by info on just where you have the game files set up at.

Also, a copy paste from the jsgme activated mods, would also be helpful, as well...

Of basic importance, is ensuring that you do NOT install the game in either:

C:/Program Files

or

C:/Program Files (x86)

I, too... have Steam, as My main source for SH games & I have a folder set up completely away from the aforementioned folders... As an example I list here, the way I have My folder set up:

C:\Games\Silent-Hunter\SH4-Steam\steamapps\common\SH4-megamods\FotRS-U-EN

As you can see here... in NO way, is the library for Steam, in either:

C:/Program Files

or

C:/Program Files (x86)

Secondly, is making sure to use both '' MultiSH4 '' & either '' 4GB patch '' or... '' Large Address Aware* '', of these, I heartily recommend LAA*. It is simple to use, you start it, point it to where the SH4.exe is located, check the box for it to be ran with 4GB's of RAM... then click ''Save'' and you will be good to go. Which you mention that you did use...

I see that there was an attempt to post an image with your post, though... it failed to show.

May I suggest retrying to do so, but using the following site:

https://snipboard.io

Is easy to use them, just drag the image from your computer where it is saved at, to the web page, let it set up, then just simply copy the saved as info, i.e ''snipboard.io/OZ1j5u.jpg'' in front of the http:// header... making sure to unhighlight http:// 1st... so that it looks like:

''[ IMG]http://snipboard.io/OZ1j5u.jpg[/IMG ]'' ( minus the space between [ at the start of that line & the ] at the end of it.. of course, was the only way to get the line to show up, without the image here... )& shows up like:



Any way, propbeanie, s7rikeback or 1 of the other guru's, feel free to jump in, in the event I missed anything here...

Hope this info helps,

Fair winds, smooth seas & good hunting....

Gute jagd, ihr himmelhunde

M. M.

[mattlach]

Originally Posted by Mad Mardigan

Ahoy, mattlach...

Ok, to begin with... the devil, is in the details...

Meaning the more details, the better.

To start off with, some basic Computer set up info would be of help... followed by info on just where you have the game files set up at.

Also, a copy paste from the jsgme activated mods, would also be helpful, as well...

Of basic importance, is ensuring that you do NOT install the game in either:

C:/Program Files

or

C:/Program Files (x86)

I, too... have Steam, as My main source for SH games & I have a folder set up completely away from the aforementioned folders... As an example I list here, the way I have My folder set up:

C:\Games\Silent-Hunter\SH4-Steam\steamapps\common\SH4-megamods\FotRS-U-EN

As you can see here... in NO way, is the library for Steam, in either:

C:/Program Files

or

C:/Program Files (x86)

Secondly, is making sure to use both '' MultiSH4 '' & either '' 4GB patch '' or... '' Large Address Aware* '', of these, I heartily recommend LAA*. It is simple to use, you start it, point it to where the SH4.exe is located, check the box for it to be ran with 4GB's of RAM... then click ''Save'' and you will be good to go. Which you mention that you did use...

I see that there was an attempt to post an image with your post, though... it failed to show.

May I suggest retrying to do so, but using the following site:

https://snipboard.io

Is easy to use them, just drag the image from your computer where it is saved at, to the web page, let it set up, then just simply copy the saved as info, i.e ''snipboard.io/OZ1j5u.jpg'' in front of the http:// header... making sure to unhighlight http:// 1st... so that it looks like:

''[ IMG]http://snipboard.io/OZ1j5u.jpg[/IMG ]'' ( minus the space between [ at the start of that line & the ] at the end of it.. of course, was the only way to get the line to show up, without the image here... )& shows up like:



Any way, propbeanie, s7rikeback or 1 of the other guru's, feel free to jump in, in the event I missed anything here...

Hope this info helps,

Fair winds, smooth seas & good hunting....

Gute jagd, ihr himmelhunde

M. M.

Thank you.


I appreciate your response.


Looks like I overlooked the "not in program files or any of its subfolders" step.


How do you accomplish this with the steam installer?


I tried just copying the entire install from "\Program Files(x86)\Steam\Steamapps" to a different folder I created, but that didn't make it very happy at all. (I didn't even get to the game loading sequence where it complained about missing files) This time it just hard crashed when I tried to run the executable.


I'm guessing I somehow have to coerce Steam to install the game in a different location?

[mattlach]

Originally Posted by Mad Mardigan

Ahoy, mattlach...

Ok, to begin with... the devil, is in the details...

Meaning the more details, the better.

To start off with, some basic Computer set up info would be of help... followed by info on just where you have the game files set up at.

Also, a copy paste from the jsgme activated mods, would also be helpful, as well...

Of basic importance, is ensuring that you do NOT install the game in either:

C:/Program Files

or

C:/Program Files (x86)

I, too... have Steam, as My main source for SH games & I have a folder set up completely away from the aforementioned folders... As an example I list here, the way I have My folder set up:

C:\Games\Silent-Hunter\SH4-Steam\steamapps\common\SH4-megamods\FotRS-U-EN

As you can see here... in NO way, is the library for Steam, in either:

C:/Program Files

or

C:/Program Files (x86)

Secondly, is making sure to use both '' MultiSH4 '' & either '' 4GB patch '' or... '' Large Address Aware* '', of these, I heartily recommend LAA*. It is simple to use, you start it, point it to where the SH4.exe is located, check the box for it to be ran with 4GB's of RAM... then click ''Save'' and you will be good to go. Which you mention that you did use...

I see that there was an attempt to post an image with your post, though... it failed to show.

May I suggest retrying to do so, but using the following site:

https://snipboard.io

Is easy to use them, just drag the image from your computer where it is saved at, to the web page, let it set up, then just simply copy the saved as info, i.e ''snipboard.io/OZ1j5u.jpg'' in front of the http:// header... making sure to unhighlight http:// 1st... so that it looks like:

''[ IMG]http://snipboard.io/OZ1j5u.jpg[/IMG ]'' ( minus the space between [ at the start of that line & the ] at the end of it.. of course, was the only way to get the line to show up, without the image here... )& shows up like:



Any way, propbeanie, s7rikeback or 1 of the other guru's, feel free to jump in, in the event I missed anything here...

Hope this info helps,

Fair winds, smooth seas & good hunting....

Gute jagd, ihr himmelhunde

M. M.

Also, if you don't mind me asking. What is the significance of using multish4? It looks like all it accomplishes is to change the name of the userdata folder in My Documents. Is there something wrong with the original folder?


Thanks again!

[Kedishen]

Anybody got a working link to download this mod?

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/dow...o=file&id=5572

The subsim download doesnt work.. Not experiencing problems downloading anything else but I can click it as many times as you like but it just adds another download to my allowance and never actually offers up any files.

[mattlach]

Alright, I tried from scratch again.


System is an old i7-3930k with an old 6GB Kepler Titan and 64GB of RAM. Not particularly impressive by modern standards, but still should be more than enough for this application. It is running the latest version of Windows 10.



The computer only has one drive though, and Steam won't let you have more than one install location on the same drive, and won't let you remove the default location inside Program Files, so I did as follows.


1.) Uninstalled game from steam and deleted game folder in C:\Program Files(x86)\Steam\SteamApps\Common
2.) Deleted game folder in "My Documents"
3.) Shut down Steam
4.) From admin account, moved entire Steam folder to a new location (C:\games\Steam)
5.) Created symlink from old location inside Program Files to new location, so that steam would still work.
6.) Reinstalled clean install of game via steam. Test launched to make sure it worked.
7.) Unzipped the 7zip archive to a MODS folder inside the new game folder in C:\games\Steam\steamapps\common\Silent Hunters Wolves of the Pacific\MODS\, so that it is in: C:\games\Steam\steamapps\common\Silent Hunters Wolves of the Pacific\MODS\100_FalloftheRisingSun_UltimateEditio n_v1.24_EN
8.) Extracted JSGME from Extras folder to root folder of game, and executed it.
9.) Saw Fall of the Rising Sun in the list and moved it to the right to install it.
10.) Ran multiSH4 to move game folder to Documents\FRS
11.) Ran Large Address Space mod to alter the SH4.exe file


Now, it SHOULD be done, right? But when I launch it by double clikcing on SH4.exe, just like before, I get the intro video, and the red bar that loads from left to right, but when it gets to 100% it just sits there forever doing nothing. If I alt-tab out, I can see the popup2 error message that data/menu/data/black80.tga is missing.


The only option in the dialogue box is to press ok. If I do so, I get another error for a missing file, click OK on that I get another, and another, and another.


To try to troubleshoot I went looking for this black80.tga file, thinking I may just have to make sure the game is pointed in the right location, but this file does not seem to exist, not in the vanilla game dir, or any of the mods as part of the Fall of the Rising Sun archive.



I'm thinking I must have missed installing something obvious that includes these files, but reading, and re-reading the instructions, I am not sure what that might be.


I'd appreciate any suggestions.

[Cybermat47]

Returning to Brisbane after my first patrol. 9 ships sunk for 54,668 tons, most of which comes from four 10,000 ton tankers.

Are those juicy tanker convoys in the Celebes Sea and Makassar Strait meant to be unescorted in Jan-Feb 1944? Not that I’m complaining...

[Texas Red]

Originally Posted by Kedishen

Anybody got a working link to download this mod?

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/dow...o=file&id=5572

The subsim download doesnt work.. Not experiencing problems downloading anything else but I can click it as many times as you like but it just adds another download to my allowance and never actually offers up any files.

use Microsoft edge instead of Google. It didn't work for me on Google but it did work on Microsoft Edge.

[Mad Mardigan]

Originally Posted by mattlach

Alright, I tried from scratch again.


System is an old i7-3930k with an old 6GB Kepler Titan and 64GB of RAM. Not particularly impressive by modern standards, but still should be more than enough for this application. It is running the latest version of Windows 10.



The computer only has one drive though, and Steam won't let you have more than one install location on the same drive, and won't let you remove the default location inside Program Files, so I did as follows.


1.) Uninstalled game from steam and deleted game folder in C:\Program Files(x86)\Steam\SteamApps\Common
2.) Deleted game folder in "My Documents"
3.) Shut down Steam
4.) From admin account, moved entire Steam folder to a new location (C:\games\Steam)
5.) Created symlink from old location inside Program Files to new location, so that steam would still work.
6.) Reinstalled clean install of game via steam. Test launched to make sure it worked.
7.) Unzipped the 7zip archive to a MODS folder inside the new game folder in C:\games\Steam\steamapps\common\Silent Hunters Wolves of the Pacific\MODS\, so that it is in: C:\games\Steam\steamapps\common\Silent Hunters Wolves of the Pacific\MODS\100_FalloftheRisingSun_UltimateEditio n_v1.24_EN
8.) Extracted JSGME from Extras folder to root folder of game, and executed it.
9.) Saw Fall of the Rising Sun in the list and moved it to the right to install it.
10.) Ran multiSH4 to move game folder to Documents\FRS
11.) Ran Large Address Space mod to alter the SH4.exe file


Now, it SHOULD be done, right? But when I launch it by double clikcing on SH4.exe, just like before, I get the intro video, and the red bar that loads from left to right, but when it gets to 100% it just sits there forever doing nothing. If I alt-tab out, I can see the popup2 error message that data/menu/data/black80.tga is missing.


The only option in the dialogue box is to press ok. If I do so, I get another error for a missing file, click OK on that I get another, and another, and another.


To try to troubleshoot I went looking for this black80.tga file, thinking I may just have to make sure the game is pointed in the right location, but this file does not seem to exist, not in the vanilla game dir, or any of the mods as part of the Fall of the Rising Sun archive.



I'm thinking I must have missed installing something obvious that includes these files, but reading, and re-reading the instructions, I am not sure what that might be.


I'd appreciate any suggestions.

Ok, to begin... in answer to your inquiry about the MultiSH4, it is useful in running more than 1 modded copy of SH4.

Now, with Steam, it IS possible to copy the guts from the 1st instal of SH4 from them, then pasting them into a new folder, aptly named to what ever mega mod or mods you want to run with & that is where MultiSH4 really shines...

Now, going into it further... I d/l'ed & installed SH4 from Steam, in the area set up for it, which was as I outlined earlier on... the process I went through was with Steam launcher, in going into the settings in library & telling the launcher to from then on, do all game installs to that new location...

Now...when you go to do more than 1 copy of SH4 (from the initial install of SH4... leave that copy alone from now on... as it is your 'GOLD' standard for making all other copies from, for modding...) Remember to set up the new install folder, inside of /common (I can't stress enough, the importance of doing so....).

Now...

as to the ''error message that data/menu/data/black80.tga is missing.'' thing...

There are 2 versions of SH4, that is available from Steam...

Silent Hunter 4: Wolves of the Pacific v 1.4

AND...

The release or DLC, if you will, to include that, known of as....

Silent Hunter 4: Wolves of the Pacific (Uboat Missions) v 1.5

For FotRS here, to work, the latter version or copy, is needed...

If I am NOT mistaken, that error message is sending up a red flag warning, that the copy of SH4 you have, is v 1.4 & not v 1.5....

M. M.

[Cybermat47]

Bugger.

[Front Runner]

OK. I've isolated 2 save games, 1 GOOD, 1 BAD. They are within one minute of one another shipboard time! No manual inputs were made by me to the game between the GOOD and BAD save. The test was made in the attack setup phase. The test was made BEFORE the torpedo attack and sinking of ships. The only difference between the 2 saves is when the second ship was reported visually sighted. I saved OK before this event and saved BAD after this event. In this case the second ship was the Seaplane Tender Chitose. The first ship reported visually sighted was the Heavy Cruiser Aoba class. I have both save games archived so someone with skills could compare the two to see what changed in the space of about 30 seconds shipboard time. I repeated this test several times using different configurations. The gameplay configuration doesn't change the result. What is common to all of my tests was the visually sighting of a (second) ship. I strongly suspect the Chitose. However, in one test, where the Chitose was not present, I got the same BAD save game result, so it is possible that there is more than one culprit. In the scenario where the Chitose was not present, the first ship was a Battleship and the second ship was a Modern Passenger Liner.
[EDIT] One additional test. I loaded up a GOOD save and let it run for 2 minutes. No messages, no in-game inputs, just waited. Saved. BAD save. The only change is in the background as the 2 ships, Aoba and Chitose are closing.
Drilling down on this issue...

[propbeanie]

@ Front Runner - we really appreciate your time and effort at this, and we think we know where the issue lies, as to why one ship does it and not the next. s7rikeback is working feverishly with our suspected cause, and then we'll be doing a series of tests with it. It involves old naming conventions in some of the ships, and frustrates our attempts at file "efficiency" with the mod. We'll get there. As difficult as the modding is, the testing is more so. This also plays into the Split Merchant standing still when encountered.

@ mattlach - What MM says with the version of your game, has it. You are trying to run "Silent Hunter 4: Wolves of the Pacific", but should be using the "U-Boat Missions Add-On", which make the Steam install a "Gold Edition" of v1.5 of the game, which is what FotRSU needs to properly run. You do also have to have the game outside of Windows' interference with the Program Files folders. For that, consult Moving a Steam Installation and Games for help in rectifying that. No matter which of the two ways you can do it from there though, both are rather involved, and depending upon the number of games you have installed, can be tedious as well as time consuming. You can't just copy and paste the game in this situation until after you have the initial install moved. Then you can make copies (with unique names) and mod each individually, and use MultiSH4 to create uniquely named Save folders. If you already re-installed into that "Games" folder, then you should be good to go, and only have to start the correct version of the game...

@ Cybermat47 - was that the first pass they got you? I kept getting distracted while trying to watch. But I thought that only happened to me! lol

[mattlach]

Originally Posted by Mad Mardigan

Ok, to begin... in answer to your inquiry about the MultiSH4, it is useful in running more than 1 modded copy of SH4.

Now, with Steam, it IS possible to copy the guts from the 1st instal of SH4 from them, then pasting them into a new folder, aptly named to what ever mega mod or mods you want to run with & that is where MultiSH4 really shines...

Now, going into it further... I d/l'ed & installed SH4 from Steam, in the area set up for it, which was as I outlined earlier on... the process I went through was with Steam launcher, in going into the settings in library & telling the launcher to from then on, do all game installs to that new location...

Now...when you go to do more than 1 copy of SH4 (from the initial install of SH4... leave that copy alone from now on... as it is your 'GOLD' standard for making all other copies from, for modding...) Remember to set up the new install folder, inside of /common (I can't stress enough, the importance of doing so....).

Now...

as to the ''error message that data/menu/data/black80.tga is missing.'' thing...

There are 2 versions of SH4, that is available from Steam...

Silent Hunter 4: Wolves of the Pacific v 1.4

AND...

The release or DLC, if you will, to include that, known of as....

Silent Hunter 4: Wolves of the Pacific (Uboat Missions) v 1.5

For FotRS here, to work, the latter version or copy, is needed...

If I am NOT mistaken, that error message is sending up a red flag warning, that the copy of SH4 you have, is v 1.4 & not v 1.5....

M. M.

Thank you. You appear to be correct. I did not see the other version of the title in the Steam store last time I searched, but now that I am looking again, there it is. It does not use the DLC mechanism I am used to, but it appears to install into the same folder as the rest of the game, so this makes sense.


I have purchased and installed the Uboat Missions DLC, and will try applying the mod again tonight.


Thank you for the assistance!

[Macgregor the Hammer]

Are the Mk 18 torpedoes problematic by design? I've fired 4 and they were all circular runs. The radius was really small and they appeared to dive instantly.

I'm in a Balao, July '43.

Any insights?

[Moonlight]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

@ Cybermat47 - was that the first pass they got you? I kept getting distracted while trying to watch. But I thought that only happened to me! lol

Only distracted? I was wondering why he bothers playing this game if he can't even be bothered to get down deeper to evade the escorts, it was February 44 and he was less than 300ft deep, what the hell did he think was going to happen when those escorts paid him a visit.
Me thinks he was trying for the record of the quickest sinking in FotRSU history which is rumoured to be held by you Mr beanie.

Originally Posted by Macgregor the Hammer

Are the Mk 18 torpedoes problematic by design? I've fired 4 and they were all circular runs. The radius was really small and they appeared to dive instantly.

I'm in a Balao, July '43.

Any insights?

I have heard though I don't know if its true or not that the game makes the decision what happens to the torpedoes when they are loaded, sounds a bit far fetched to me as the SH4 game is mostly incompetent with out any mods to correct its many faults.