Here we go again-Ukraine once again

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Skybird

What we see in Russia today is a fascist who instrumentalises anti-fascism for his power-interests. Doing so he dances on the graves of 24 million Russians and 8 million Urkainians who were killed in WW2.

Amen.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Catfish

^ @Skybird well put. Wait, did i say this


Since you wanted to hear from other subsim members –
Both side's bullets can kill you, and what is euphemistically called "friendly fire" can of course kill you as well as the enemy.
I would of course have left the house if possible, if not this will become ugly.

But this was of course a rhetorical question by you.

If another country attacks my country for an obvious conquest of land, with pretexts, propaganda and lies, ridiculing my ancestors who fought ecactly this behaviour some 80 years ago, i grab a gun and look for the enemy to shoot at.

By the way showing repect to war veterans and honour them is a good thing.
Instrumentalizing war veterans for an unrightful war is disgusting.
In case of Russia, you have forgotten all that was important to the victors of World War II.

Here I am again with an Amen, it's exactly the way I feel. The Russian people were brutalized by the Nazis in WWII and deserve all the respect for driving them out. For the Russians/Putin to be the aggressors against Ukraine in true Nazi style is very disgusting.

Russians: time to lead your country instead of following a dictator into a nuclear war that will destroy us all.

[Skybird]

After the war will come the afterwar.

"Karma will quickly catch up with them," said Svetlana Kravchenko, 57, of anyone in Bakhmut who supported the Russian offensive.


She helps run a small charity collecting food and other supplies to distribute to the town's soldiers and to elderly civilians in the surrounding villages. Their basement office is also home to a Ukrainian Orthodox Church, where she and others pray daily. Most of the more traditional churches in Bakhmut are still officially linked to the Russian Orthodox church, whose leadership has publicly endorsed President Putin's invasion.


"Everyone makes their own choice. And they will have to answer for that. Maybe some people here want to surrender [to the Russians]. But when this conflict is over, when the shelling and shooting stops, then the traitors will be punished, either in this world or the next," said Kravchenko.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61372382

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by mapuc

I will add this to your story

From liveuamap

23 minutes ago - 45°16′N 32°4′E
The Russian Defense Ministry announces the deployment of battleships carrying Kalibr missiles in the Black Sea

Markus

Battleships? Black Sea? Hardly. They have halve a dozen missile-carrying corvettes and frigates left there, then some submarines, landing ships, transports, patrol boats.

The number of capital ships was limited from beginning on. And with the Moskva and as claimed the Admiral Makarov gone already, I wonder what "battleships" should be left. Turkey has closed the Dardanelles and the Bosporus for all military traffic. Thus they should not allow Russia to send through reinforcements.

What the Russians mean is probaly that they place some Kalibrs on some frigates or corvettes left.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_Fleet

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Battleships? Black Sea? Hardly. They have halve a dozen missile-carrying corvettes and frigates left there, then some submarines, landing ships, transports, patrol boats.

The number of capital ships was limited from beginning on. And with the Moskva and as claimed the Admiral Makarov gone already, I wonder what "battleships" should be left. Turkey has closed the Dardanelles and the Bosporus for all military traffic. Thus they should not allow Russia to send through reinforcements.

What the Russians mean is probaly that they place some Kalibrs on some frigates or corvettes left.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_Fleet

I never gave it some thought I toke a look at the Black sea on https://liveuamap.com/
because I could see a symbol of a ship-And it said Battleship.

Guess it must be people behind this page who has done wrong.

Markus

[Jeff-Groves]

So they sending another target eh?
Maybe they upgraded to SH4 thinking Snake Island might be on that Nav Map.

Time to warm up another ship sunk icon.

[Dargo]

My reaction to the victory day parade:

At the Victory Day parade, a very old Jew carries a placard that reads, "Thank you, comrade Putin, for my happy childhood!." A Party representative approaches the old man. "What's that? Are you mocking our Putin? Everyone can see that when you were a child, comrade Putin hadn't yet been born!"

The old man replies, "That's precisely why I'm grateful to him!"

Soldiers of the Russian army on decree of our Supreme, Glorious marshal Putin are now being sent to Ukraine in pairs. One throws a stone, and the other one shouts "boom!".

[Jeff-Groves]

Originally Posted by Dargo

Soldiers of the Russian army on decree of our Supreme, Glorious marshal Putin are now being sent to Ukraine in pairs. One throws a stone, and the other one shouts "boom!".

They War between Kentucky and Ohio?
Kentuckians would throw hand gernades across the river.
Ohioians would pull the pins and throw them back.

[Catfish]

^

I don't know how serious Erdoghan is with blocking the Dardanelles, i guess even if no warships are allowed, russian freighters could transport all kind of military hardware to the Krim?

And don't forget the river systems, if a Kilo sub can be transported to the black sea, warships can use the rivers, too.

[Dargo]

Pentagon updates on Russia’s invasion of Ukraine on Day 75:

• US has NOW trained 310 Ukraine troops on M777 howitzers
• US has sent 85 of 90 howitzers to Ukraine
• US assesses Russia has made "no significant progress" in Donbas
• US believes some Russian troops are not obeying orders

[Dargo]

Bloomberg: Russia’s economy deals with the worst recession in three decades. Bloomberg cited an internal forecast by Russia's Finance Ministry. The country’s GDP is expected to shrink by 12% as a result of the Western sanctions. A potential oil embargo, a decline in Russian gas consumption by EU countries, and the mass exodus of foreign companies from the Russian market were named as the key reasons for the downturn.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Dargo

Bloomberg: Russia’s economy deals with the worst recession in three decades. Bloomberg cited an internal forecast by Russia's Finance Ministry. The country’s GDP is expected to shrink by 12% as a result of the Western sanctions. A potential oil embargo, a decline in Russian gas consumption by EU countries, and the mass exodus of foreign companies from the Russian market were named as the key reasons for the downturn.

And still:
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...&postcount=181

25 of the world's 33 most important currencies have increased in value against the euro since last May. Surprisingly, the Russian ruble is at the top of the list.

And Russia is again - or still - buying gold as if there were no tomorrow.

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by Skybird

And still:
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...&postcount=181

And Russia is again - or still - buying gold as if there were no tomorrow.

They have money right now but this war cost them the same amount that they get from energy sell to Europe if that is declining and rest of trade with the west Russia gets in trouble, and you can not eat gold. 1 ruble = 0,014 dollar that's a lot to buy from outside Russia

[Dargo]

Russian reported in Donbas, Sladkov, is raging about shelling of Donetsk on 9 May and reveals the reality of the frontline - 1 to 1 assault force's ratio, can't push away Ukrainian forces, not looking good for the Russian side.

https://twitter.com/mdmitri91/status...69171917430784

[Skybird]

Sounds like somebody complains about getting a taste of the medicine he intended to prescribe to the others.